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Pregnancy vs Childbirth
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Cameron Stevens wrote: "Fighting For Kids" wrote in message ... Not this garbage again. On 13 Nov 2003 12:15:57 -0800, (Matt D) wrote: Pregnancy vs Childbirth The man (and woman equally) is responsible for the PREGNANCY. It is the direct result of the actions of the man and woman in sex that produced the pregnancy. Beyond that, the decision to have a child and keep the child (as opposed to adoption) is the result of the unilateral choice of the woman. This would be abortion that you are referring to and for some women abortion is just not an option. Sorry. It is an OPTION. It may not be a choice they prefer. They still have two other choices, ADOPTION and SELF-SUPPORT. ....the original poster specifically listed adoption as the option to keeping. Mel Gamble That is the way that the women want it, so that is the way that it should be, the woman's body the woman's choice. What that means is the man should be obligated to be responsible for the costs associated with the pregnancy, those responsibilities being the cost of either the abortion or the cost of prenatal care, but not child support. That would mean men would NEVER be held accountable for any child that was ever born. They could simply walk away, even in marriages. No. It means that men would have as much CHOICE to walk away as women. Cameron |
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Pregnancy vs Childbirth
You're assuming...
Indyguy1 wrote: Matt wrote: Pregnancy vs Childbirth The man (and woman equally) is responsible for the PREGNANCY. It is the direct result of the actions of the man and woman in sex that produced the pregnancy. Beyond that, the decision to have a child and keep the child (as opposed to adoption) is the result of the unilateral choice of the woman. That is the way that the women want it, so that is the way that it should be, the woman's body the woman's choice. What that means is the man should be obligated to be responsible for the costs associated with the pregnancy, those responsibilities being the cost of either the abortion or the cost of prenatal care, but not child support. Furthermore, the man probably should be responsible for the FULL cost of it, considering that the woman has to actually go through the abortion or childbirth. If a woman wants to exercise her right to have a child and keep a child, the woman should be willing and able to support the child. The same situation would apply to men. The man could choose to raise the child (with the consent of the woman to have the child), and the man should be equally ineligible for child support. Otherwise the child should be put up for adoption. It is definately in the child's best interest to be adopted into a family that IS willing and able to support the child. Look at it this way, Matt. Two people are driving down the street. The passenger tells the driver to pull over in front of a bank. The passenger tells the other person to wait a minute while he runs in to *do something*. The passenger puts a stocking over his head and pulls out a gun. He comes running out 5 minutes later with a bag of money. The driver speeds away. The car is stopped a few miles away. Should the driver only be given a speeding ticket or should they be charged with the robbery? ....that the driver is fully aware of the gun and bag - what is YOUR view of this if they are pulled from under the passenger's coat AFTER entering the bank? Once the passenger jumps back into the car with armed guards firing, the driver becomes the one who is "just along for the ride"... (not that this is always the case) Mel Gamble I do not have any children, and I intend to keep it that way. That's probably a good choice for you. Mrs Indyguy |
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Pregnancy vs Childbirth
You're assuming...
Indyguy1 wrote: Matt wrote: Pregnancy vs Childbirth The man (and woman equally) is responsible for the PREGNANCY. It is the direct result of the actions of the man and woman in sex that produced the pregnancy. Beyond that, the decision to have a child and keep the child (as opposed to adoption) is the result of the unilateral choice of the woman. That is the way that the women want it, so that is the way that it should be, the woman's body the woman's choice. What that means is the man should be obligated to be responsible for the costs associated with the pregnancy, those responsibilities being the cost of either the abortion or the cost of prenatal care, but not child support. Furthermore, the man probably should be responsible for the FULL cost of it, considering that the woman has to actually go through the abortion or childbirth. If a woman wants to exercise her right to have a child and keep a child, the woman should be willing and able to support the child. The same situation would apply to men. The man could choose to raise the child (with the consent of the woman to have the child), and the man should be equally ineligible for child support. Otherwise the child should be put up for adoption. It is definately in the child's best interest to be adopted into a family that IS willing and able to support the child. Look at it this way, Matt. Two people are driving down the street. The passenger tells the driver to pull over in front of a bank. The passenger tells the other person to wait a minute while he runs in to *do something*. The passenger puts a stocking over his head and pulls out a gun. He comes running out 5 minutes later with a bag of money. The driver speeds away. The car is stopped a few miles away. Should the driver only be given a speeding ticket or should they be charged with the robbery? ....that the driver is fully aware of the gun and bag - what is YOUR view of this if they are pulled from under the passenger's coat AFTER entering the bank? Once the passenger jumps back into the car with armed guards firing, the driver becomes the one who is "just along for the ride"... (not that this is always the case) Mel Gamble I do not have any children, and I intend to keep it that way. That's probably a good choice for you. Mrs Indyguy |
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