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Peds want soda ban
"Roger Schlafly" wrote in message t... "Jonathan Smith" wrote It is their responsibility to support the needs of the people they represent. In the case of the AAP, it is a recommendation that raises public awareness. In the case of the state of Maine, the mandate came from a student/parent/nutrition committee - this wasn't something some loud mouth bureaucrat dreamed up - it was grass roots. The AAP is raising public awareness, but it is also spreading misinformation, because it implies that soda is more fattening than fruit juice. In fact, many sodas have a lot fewer calories than fruit juice. Actually, the AAP is not in favor of kids drining a lot of juice either. -- CBI, MD |
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"Roger Schlafly" wrote in message t... "Jonathan Smith" wrote The AAP is raising public awareness, but it is also spreading misinformation, because it implies that soda is more fattening than fruit juice. No, Roger, you are by suggesting that the AAP recommendation implies that fruit juices are somehow better than sweetened soft drinks. The AAP *is* implying that. I refer to the AAP statement he AAP SAYS SOFT DRINKS IN SCHOOLS SHOULD BE RESTRICTED In a new policy statement, "Soft Drinks in Schools," the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) recommends that school districts should consider restricting the sale of soft drinks to safeguard against health problems that result from overconsumption. http://www.aap.org/advocacy/releases/jansoftdrinks.htm The complaint is about soft drinks, not fruit juices. So it is your possition that everything they do not list in the complaint is being promoted? -- CBI, MD |
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"Roger Schlafly" wrote in message t... CBI seems to think that if you criticize an AAP opinion on usenet, then it must be that you don't think that the AAP has any free speech rights. Perhaps he thinks that only the AAP has free speech rights to express opinions. Ah Roger - once again it is you with the reading comprehension problem (at least we will pretend that is the problem since it is nicer than the alternatives). I do not think JG should not critisize the AAP (or AMA or whatever). I often am critical of the decisions of "the medical establishment." I critisize her when she claims these establishments shouldn't have the same freedom of speech rights she claims for herself. -- CBI, MD |
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"Jonathan Smith" wrote in message m... Roger enjoy's the moving target. Yep - that is one of his favorite tricks. You appreciate him well now. -- CBI |
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"JG" wrote in message . .. You know damn well (and if you claim that you don't, search the mkh archives) that I've said, repeatedly, the AAP can issue all the recommendations and policy statements it wants; I've never called for censorship. Bull****. -- CBI, MD |
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"bencon" wrote in message m... It does no good whatsoever to take away peoples rights to consume soda, why should we do that? 14 year old kids do not have a rigth to consume soda if their parents do not wish them to do so. The kids will A. bring their own Which the parents will have some chance of affecting. They also probably will not be able to bring as muich as they might buy. B. buy it at stores Which they can't do between classes at most schools. and C. begin to view soda as rebelious, Soda hasn't been banned. They can still bring it in and drink it right in front of the teachers and principle so it would not be much of a form of rebellion. We need to teach kids the way to drink these things. Yes, we do. Not sending them the message that a soda should be available for consumption all day long and not undermining the parents ability to control this would be one small step in the right direction. -- CBI, MD Juices have JUST as many empty calories, along w/ sports drinks. It is true. Don't remove the drinks, inform the kids. |
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"Elizabeth Reid" wrote
can exert control, but that control is most effective when it's pre-emptive. It's less effective to decide that yes, I'll continue to offer a jar of Hershey's Kisses for the office on my desk, I just won't eat any, than it is to decide that someone else can provide the candy. The more obstacles between the person and the food, the more chances they have for will to exert itself and turn away from the item. I don't agree. I think that it is better leave that jar of Kisses on the desk until you learn the self-control to limit consumption. |
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"Elizabeth Reid" wrote
I don't agree. I think that it is better leave that jar of Kisses on the desk until you learn the self-control to limit consumption. Better how? Better as in more in keeping with Roger Schlafly's views and opinions, or better as in more likely to work? Both. I have heard of people who otherwise seem to have their lives together, but say that they cannot keep any food in the house. If they do, then they will eat it and get fat. IMO, that is no way to live, and it is impractical for most people as well. I say, go ahead and keep that jar of Kisses, and pig-out on them in a moment of weakness. You'll get over it, and you'll be better off in the long run. You still haven't provided any evidence for your assertion that most kids tend to choose their food rationally (despite Again, just personal experience. Most kids will eat when they are hungry, and stop when they are full. (Some do get fat, of course, and various explanations have been given for that.) your own admission, in another thread, that your child would overconsume candy if allowed to do so). Evidence? I don't think that I said "overconsume". She would spoil her dinner by nibbling on candy beforehand. I think I said that I'd rather that she didn't do that. Not a very controversial remark, I don't think. |
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"Elizabeth Reid" wrote
IMO, that is no way to live, and it is impractical for most You'd like these people you know to stop doing something that works for them just fine, ... You keep misrepresenting what I said. It is ok with me if they are doing something that works. |
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"bencon" wrote in message
m... Jeff, I understand your point, but we need to look at this from a different angle. We shouldn't teach children to hoarde soda when they can get it, we should teach them that to lead a healthy life, they need to drink it in moderation. It does no good whatsoever to take away peoples rights to consume soda, why should we do that? The kids will A. bring their own B. buy it at stores and C. begin to view soda as rebelious, (which we know is not a good thing w/ kids). We need to teach kids the way to drink these things. Juices have JUST as many empty calories, along w/ sports drinks. It is true. Don't remove the drinks, inform the kids. BINGO!!! applause Kids must learn to make responsible choices and they can't do that when "bad" options are excluded. |
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