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Catching up with Straus
Doan wrote:
On 20 Dec 2006, 0:- wrote: ......snip...... Compare them, for instance, to Dr. Embry's program he tested with considerable success and his claim yet again, with citations of other's more specific work, that his experience was that children do indeed, when spanked, move to preform the unwanted behavior MORE. He said that it is RARE - not normal! A fact that anti-spanking zealotS like you have been deliberately omitted, "lying by omission" by your standard! Did he now? R R R R R sure, Doan the Screeching Hysterical Childish Monkeyboy. From Nathan's post quoting Dr. Embry: " It would have been nearly impossible to have detected the fact that spanking, scolding and reprimands served as "accidental attention to dangerous behavior" except by a repeated measures, with 10-second coding. That said, about a third of the kids had this effect, and they were the ones that people often want to spank; that is, because these were the kids, post-hoc, that would likely meet the definition of oppositionally defiant in today's vernacular of the DSM-IV. The prevalence of this DSM-IV diagnoses are clearly rising for a whole lot of reasons that have nothing to do with parenting, yet parenting/teacher behavior can seriously worse the biological and socially induced predispositions. For these kids, spanking, etc. did not meet the operant definition of a punisher; rather, it met the definition of reinforcement. This is whole consistent with the long-term, precision studies of the etiology of multi-problem kids (see the book by Anthony Biglan et al. Helping Adolescents at At Risk, from Guilford Press). Dr. Biglan is my close colleague and the president of the society for prevention research. Dr. Biglan's synthesis book does a nice job of reviewing the cycle of coercion work of people like Gerry Patterson and colleagues, which has been replicated by other investigators. It is very parsimonious, and fits both behavioral and evolutionary theory. " Dr. Embry said 'rare,' Doan? Please explain where he did so. Thanks, 0;-] |
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