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| off topic for Kane
On Wed, 21 Apr 2004 15:33:28 -0500, "bobb"
wrote: Harvard Professor, Samuel P. Huntington Appeals to authority are all well and good if the authority is credible. I do use them myself, but I note even the ones i use as to their biases. You failed to research this particular one. He has something of a rep and his scholarly attributes seem to have a bit of a crediblility problem. http://www.mediatransparency.org/people/shuntington.htm He seems to have more than one target for blaming: "October 22, 2001 The Nation The Clash of Ignorance Harvard University ideologist Samuel Huntington's deeply flawed theory of a "Clash of Civilizations" between "The West" and "Islam" is now being touted by politicians and the press as the new international political paradigm" And: http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/...199219642.html He is labelled by some, as I label you, as misanthropic. writes "The Hispanic Challange" that appeared in the recent issue of Foreign Policy and has sparked a bitter debate on the impact of unprecedented grouth of Hispanic communities and its shaping of the future of American. Having crossed the borders illegally, Huntington asserts that Mexicans and Hispanics reject Anglo-Saxon and Protestant values that built america. This is the appeal that sells his books. Unfortunately to the likes of you who actually believe that we are a nation build\t on such values and they derived from anglos and saxon and protestants with little or no input from elsewhere. Any real in depth study of our values would trace to Greece and Rome, and further to Alexandria..which is African, as well as other mediteranian cultures. Even Asian and South Asian influences have been strong in our society. We are enough years past the events just prior to the civil war to have forgotten (except in college philosophy classes) the profound influence the most preeminent writers, scholars, and philosophers of that time had upon our national identiy. Have you heard of Trancendentalism? It was a movement in reaction to just such values as you and the author you cite claim this country was built upon. It was in reaction to European views on what humankind was and what our values should be. http://womenshistory.about.com/bltranscend.htm "Added to all this, the scriptures of non-Western cultures were discovered in the West, translated, and published so that they were more widely available. The Harvard-educated Emerson and others began to read Hindu and Buddhist scriptures, and examine their own religious assumptions against these scriptures. In their perspective, a loving God would not have led so much of humanity astray; there must be truth in these scriptures, too. Truth, if it agreed with an individual's intuition of truth, must be indeed truth. " I don't know if these names mean anything to you, but I suspect that without them we would have NOT had a Civil war, nor would the slaves been freed for many more decades. These people were MORE influencial than any politician then or since. Margaret Fuller, Theodore Parker, Elizabeth Palmer Peabody, A. Bronson Alcott, Louisa May Alcott, Nathaniel Hawthorne, George Ripley, F. B. Sanborn, Jones Very, T. W. Higginson, O. B. Frothingham, William Ellery Channing, Lydia Maria Child, Moncure Conway, and of course, Henry David Thoreau and Ralph Waldo Emerson. Your "authority" ignores the most preeminent thinkers in US history, and they were dead set against anglo saxon protestant values. Calvinism is dead, except for some tiny extremist groups such as the Ch. Reconstructionists. They fail to assimilate into the mainstream, instead forming their own political and linguistic enclaves. They and our black citizens have gotten the message about white americans nearly at the same time...and both got it be being locked out, barred from participation, in America, economically, politically, and sadly, even to riding the bus. Huntington see hispanics preparing to detroy american from within... just as Vanals pillaged imperial Rome. Of course he does. And his editors know exactly how to sell books. A lot of intellectual trash sells well. Look at the expose' shows on TV that The Plant a others wallow in here. Hispanics have already established beachheads in Arkansas, Georgia, and Alabama. Look at the highly evocative hyperbolic language of war being used. Sounds like a college sports page columnist trying to drum up more support for the football season. Their final blow to american life will come when Mexicans in the Southwest effectively declare their independance from the Union... an effort which is thought to be on the immediate horizon. I wouldn't be the least surprized. The continual suppression, the horror of the work place they have been delegated to, the refusal to house, feed, employ on a scale that whites take for granted? Of course they want independence. Well, they want you suckers to think so so you let go of a little of your penerous grasp of resources. It's a bluff, dummy. Political one. When I was growing up I learned that the mexican kids around me were routinely punished for speaking spanish at home and acting "mexican." Latino immigrants worked very hard to assimilate. A few families managed it...and regret it at times. Ask the Estevez family. Martin Sheen is where to start. Or chat up Emilio, or Charlie. For ever success like this, there is a huge cost to other hispanics who are not so easily taught english and anglo ways. I would think their might be just a tad of resentment. I recall feeling it when I was in other countries and didn't automatically know the customs. Most were kind to me but now and then I was locked out rudely because I was a crude American. These residents, and decendents of residents of the America's are just a tiny bit ****ed at being left out, locked out when they were here first. Of course, we have only ourselves to blame. We have stood while those who seek globalization created a multiracial, multicultual, and multilingual mess in the interest of expanding financial markets... and huge profits for big business. No doubt about it, and you, bubbah, and I, could have taken it away from the fat cats had we refused to be conned by their racist propaganda. I wasn't fooled but I recognize how thoroughly they indoctrinated me...from my gut reactions that I KNOW are false based on facts. The only danger I'm in from blacks or mexicans or any other "minority" comes from them identifying my face with that of oppressive whites like you and the power mongers. Only in the last few months has it come to anyone's attention our legislators are equally to blame. They have allowed illegal immigrants to vote, dirve cars, and take from freely from our social programs under laws that most certainly were passed for vote-getting purposes. In otherwords, become part of America. It's overdue, and we anglos, as smart, and ruthless as we are in the market place will both assimilate them as they do us. Hell, westerners and southwesterners have encorporated central america long ago into everyday language, customs and foods. Now the midwest is following along. And not only has this worked with culture after culture that has come here, but it has made us the strongest nation on the planet. Check out how the more strictly anglo saxon folks are doing these days? You see them still influencing by empire? Nope, we are it, bubbah and my black and brown brothers and sisters are as much a part of that power we have built as I am. And they are ****ED at your stupidty that you don't recognize it. You arrogant snob. I'm concerned that the voice of Prof. Huntington will be nver be heard. I am too, and that he will not be hooted MORE thoroughly off the world stage before he fomets a war that need not happen. There is much more to be concerned of.. that's all the time I have for now. There is MUCH more to be concerned about and it amount to the continued arrogance grounded in ignorance that COULD in fact drive that final wedge between whites and the other owners of this planet. You are a dangerous stupid bigot. Where in the HELL did you get the idea that whites are entitled, and that they and they alone are responsible for our way of life in America? Bob Jones University? The Hitler Youth Camp? **** you are stupid. bobb I'll give you a hint. When Oakland California's population hit and then surpassed the half way mark, blacks to whites, CRIME WENT DOWN. It's the **** minded suppression and bigotry that drives the minorites you stupid asshole. As SOON as a people have parity the trouble goes away. Look around you. You live in a nation that has proven this time and again. Get the Gregory Peck movie, Gentleman's Agreement to learn more. Have you watched the Jane Elliot tape yet, or are you bound to stick your head in the sand? I've read YOUR citatiosn, have YOU read MINE? This problem continues not because anyone WANTS TO BE SEPARATE, but because there is a profit, immediate but not long term profit, in keeping us at each other's throats. Longterm we will die from it. This nation will weaken under any single cultural imperative dominance. And this country began out of diversity, not anglo saxon values. What a ditz. The underdog is always the cheap labor pool, and the market for cheap goods. So you and people like you, ignorant sots, will be lead by the nose. It's easy to make bigots, a bit harder to make decent human beings that won't stand for it. You like it, live with the results, you vicious little stupid ignorant racist bigot. Kane |
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I've repeated articles that point out the large segment of mexicans who have
no interest in becoming citizens, nor do they hold to american values. There intent is to regain propertly lost in war. Obviously, the muslims and islamics hav an agenda to destroy american. We can, and should control imigration for those to intend to do us harm. The blacks, on the other hand, are american citizens... and we have to allow them the freedoms of all citizens. It;s not difficult to see that blacks are having a difficult time assimiating... even after many gnerations.. and government opportunituis. Blacks make up the largest segment of the jail population for serious crimes, including crimes against blacks. They also make up the largest segment of children in foster care. This is to say nothing about their huge failure in schools. The idea of adopting or promoting ebonics is, to me, merely another demonstration of their unwillingness to join America and the list goes on. I must admit I'm also concerned that so many adhere to muslim/islamic faith I'm not suggesting all blacks fit into my dire picture for certainly there is a lot more racial strife within the black commuity than most of hear about. Racial may not be the correct term (lighter skinned blacks reject those of a darker color) because it runs much deeper than that. Though many feel existing social problems are a black/white issue they are an undeniably a black/black issue... a side we rarely hear about because it isn't politically correct to discuss. Whites cannot help blacks out of their delima... blacks need to do it for themselves and quit yelling racism. You many rant about ebonics but it has no useful purpose. This is a different moment in time. I really tire of hearing how we much try to understand the blacks, the muslim, the mexicans, etc. How about if they try to undertand the majority and the values this country was built on... moral and religious. bobb |
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On Sat, 24 Apr 2004 06:01:04 -0500, "bobb"
wrote: I've repeated articles that point out the large segment of mexicans who have no interest in becoming citizens, Point me to them again. I'm unable to find them. nor do they hold to american values. How can a mexican not hold to American values. They ARE American by birth, ancestory (probably waaaay before your folks), and through out some parts of the North American United States, their culture is so dominant that people like you and I have been assimilated by it generations ago. Californians each and speak "Mexican" without even knowing they do something "different." So, tell me, bobb, what are these "american values" we have, you and I, or just you and what you think other "americans" like you have, that these "foreigners," "messicans" don't have, and what values do you think they DO have? There intent is to regain propertly lost in war. Now that would be interesting. Obviously, the muslims and islamics hav an agenda to destroy american. No, "Islamists" do. And they are NOT popular with run of mill muslims, just like right wing racist white power folks that call themselves "Christian" as part of their name are abhored by run of the mill Christians. Neither group of moderate folks though can speak out much from the position of their faith against others that us their name badly. Yet I DO read articles, by those of faith, from both camps that attack these two brands of dangerous extremist...so basically bobb, you are, as usual, full of ****. In places where extremists hold sway they are often heavily armed and intimidate the moderates, who would speak up at the risk of their own and their relatives lives...yet a few still do so, and suffer for it. Instead of supporting and encouraging these people that can and would fight Islamists from within, you and assholes like you, lump them all together and alienate the moderates. How would YOU like to be seen as a White Supremist "Christian?" Basically that is what you do when you claim "muslims" and "islamics" are out to destroy us. We can, and should control imigration for those to intend to do us harm. Yep, and we do. What do you think the HSA is all about, dummy? And it's working. Even Moussaoui is going to be retried...and we'll hang the sucker if we can get our hands on him...(thanks germany for all you "help.") The blacks, on the other hand, are american citizens... and we have to allow them the freedoms of all citizens. I love it. "we" have to allow "them." If you don't see the racism inherent in that kind of thinking you are lost to humanity, bobb. There is no "we" or "them." This is a country of "US" and always has been even when they were in the cotton rows, and on the docks, and my ancestors were sippin' mint juleps idly chatting about how to deal with the "problem" of the darkies and how to keep them from uprisin' and cuttin' all our throats, and have you seen the pretty little nigra I bought las' week in Charlston..my my." Hell, one of the first people to die in the events that set off our Revolution was Chrispus Attucks...a free black man in a protest against british soldiers. I think it was Boston. http://www.seacoastnh.com/blackhistory/patriots.html So much for "we" and "them" and "letting." How would you like it, them being Americans all this time, even before the revolution, if a black man pondered, "I think we must allowed whites the freedoms of all citizens." It;s not difficult to see that blacks are having a difficult time assimiating... even after many gnerations.. and government opportunituis. It's that darky thing. You know, that african stuff, the jungle mentality. Drums and gobbeldigook languages They may be hundreds of years more getting rid of being African, just like you and I have gotten over being white and mostly german/english (by the way, did you know that german was spoken in the colonies more than english in our early days?).. "english" speakers were NOT speaking the common language of the times. They were a minority in most of the colonies. How's THAT grab your silly ass? Blacks make up the largest segment of the jail population for serious crimes, including crimes against blacks. Yup. They are arrested more than whites for the same crimes. I've lived the hood, and I've lived in the white trash sections of towns. More cops in the hood than the white trash sectios. Judges go heavier on blacks in court, as do juries. It's a proven fact. It is the shame of the judicial, and of law enforcement. They also make up the largest segment of children in foster care. Yep. Nothing like grinding a people down like we whites have done to blacks for 3 or 4 hundred years. I'm continually amazed at their persistence and fortitude in holding on to THEIR place in America. This is to say nothing about their huge failure in schools. And nothing about the huge failure of the schools to serve them as well as whites. Ever been to a school in the hood? Probably not. The palpable "blackness" would no doubt overwhelm you. I always, when I go to events in the schools in black communities, am overwhelmed by it myself, for a time, then my life experience and the memory of the people I spent my time growing up with, until I was about 10 or 11, comes back to me, and I go "black" in my sensibilities and feel warm and welcome and like a decent human being that can forget the vicious indoctrination I've recieved as a white. I'm always amazed that a black person, given the history of whites, can embrace me so warmly with such welcome. The food's damn good too....R R R R. Had your plate of Ribs today? Personally if I had to identify "american" values that I consider the ost important, it would be what I find in the real black community...not what the 10 o'clock news is feeding you suckers, and has now for 60 years. The idea of adopting or promoting ebonics is, to me, merely another demonstration of their unwillingness to join America and the list goes on. Ebon is as much a dialect of american language as Cajun. Do you think the people in the Bayou country are folks we just have to give their rights to, or was there never a question that they were americans. Do you consider aboriginals of this continent who speak their language as not fully americans except for what we whites grant them? And by the way. Do you find yourself subjected to Ebon in everyday exchanges you have with blacks? Are you forced to learn spanish? Are you kept out of mainstream america because you speak a ******* conglomorate dialect of true English english? The time is past when they could have assimilated in the way I think you mean...speaking and acting like you or I. I believe there were three key times that we whites denied them entry. Immediately after emancipation, again right after WWII, and finally as a result of the twinned shocks to them of the civil rights movement and Vietnam. I think, though not being black I have to guess at and interpret what blacks might be thinking, that each was a shock to them, mounting in impact, and the civil rights movement backlash and resistance of whites, and the black vets coming back from Vietnam to the same old thing did it. I've been holding my breath since about the mid 1960's when it first occurred to me that blacks were repeatedly denied entre' at these key events in US history. You have to understand that events that you and I, from the white controlled media, were either denied access to or it was brushed over (like the murder of us black navy men by forcing them to unload ammunition ships with known safety risks, unstabled munitions, faaar beyond what white sailors were subjected to....never heard of it, did you?) are NOT hidden to the black community. You know that "jungle telegraph" thing that makes whitie's hair stand on end when the drums start signaling. R R R R I must admit I'm also concerned that so many adhere to muslim/islamic faith In the denial of an "american" identity...which you and people like you have done to blacks, and others in this country...(you ****ing white supremist) you leave blacks to forge their identity as a community to OTHERS THAT WOULD PREEMPT THEM. BLACKS didn't go rushing out to choose to be muslims...they were left too few choices and the only one they really wanted....or so thinks this whitey. They were pushed out...and when one is pushed out they can simply die, or go elsewhere. Some blacks went elsewhere to be their own kind of Americans...which of course they already were. Did your people, bobb, preceed Chrispus Attucks? . Have you been called a ****** lately...along with all the exclusion that goes with that, for your parents and their parents, and for your sons and daughters? I'm not suggesting all blacks fit into my dire picture for certainly there is a lot more racial strife within the black commuity than most of hear about. Bobb, that is that same ol' "some of my best friends" ****. It don't wash. Where ELSE would you expect racial strife to be? You want it in the white `hood? Look, bobb, as I said you are a victim, along with the rest of white america, me included, of constant unrelenting media bombardment. If two groups of white kids got into a fracus in a school yard, would you suspect "race" was a factor? If you here a TV news program that says two groups of black kids got into it in the school yard, do you NOT suspect they had a fracus over racial issues..........and does not the media play that up if just one interviewed kid says that was it? bobb, you'll swallow anthing, uncritically, when it fits your bias, you well indoctrinated bias. For **** sakes man, read something about the nature of prejudice and how naturally it comes to us (an old survival skill...bred into us by evolution) and how ridiculously easy it is to use it to influence us any way "the man" wants to. Read up on the politics, what there was, of the middle ages when we all were either serfs, soldiers, or lords of the manor, and the lords of the manner kept it that way to their benefit. They were nothing more than brigands and cutthroats that got organized when they had stolen enough of everyone elses labors. Racial may not be the correct term (lighter skinned blacks reject those of a darker color) because it runs much deeper than that. Do you read anything but propaganda by whites? Do you understand, even minutely, what slavery did to the black psyche? Do YOU see any class difference between those who live in the middle of inhereted wealth from six ot 10 generations of wealth, and you and I, presuming you come from the working class? What is the difference between you and I identifying the characteristics of the wealthy, (they do breed with the most beautiful women, hence they become better looking over time...take Paris Hilton for instance) while us poor folks just hookup pretty much with how ever will have us from our on class. Where is that difference when it comes to, if you'll pardon the expression, field hands and house ******s? And I presume you can figure out why the house staff was lighter, over a few generations, that those sweaty less attractive field hands, right? THE CLASS DIFFERENCE YOU WANT SO BADLY TO BELIEVE IS RACISIM AMONG BLACKS IS NOTHING MORE THAN THE WHITE "RACISM" OF OUR CLASSISM WITH OTHER WHITES. Learn how to think. Learn history. Think of history having much more meaning to NOW, than your stupid ass public school teachers (themselves even MORE indoctrinated that you) gave to you with boring dates, and history devoid of what people of color actually did and didn't do. The surprize here is that Attucks is a symbol...he was NOT the only black in the revolution, nor the only black that contributed, and still contributes to this country and its wealth and power. Though many feel existing social problems are a black/white issue they are an undeniably a black/black issue... Undeniably? Well, I DENY IT. The black/black issue is no more than the white white issue...it's a matter of class. Middle class and professional, vs working class, vs deeply poverty stricken....exactly what it is for WHITE classes. You are being given a lesson in what is meant by "institutional racism." It's not "no we already rented to apartment." That is personal racism. This business of US you and I, and minorities being managed to the advantage of a very small elite is institutional racism and you are as much a victim as any black person, but it costs you in ways you can't even imagine. The wealth of this country, if we were NOT pitched against each other, would be something to behold far beyond what we see now. We would all be princes in our control of our destinies and of our wealth and power. Right now, should the power elite decide it would be good for them and their wealth managment, and the aquisition of more goods and resource, that we have a deep recession, or even outright depression...there is nothing we could do to stop it....or them. They control those kinds of things now and virtually everything that happens in the world is planned for by their bean counters and administrators. It's a game of "how much can we squeeze out of "them" before they break and we have them coming for us with the long knives so we get maximum power and wealth flowing more strongly towards us." The robber barons of the 19th century were pikers compared to these boys. a side we rarely hear about because it isn't politically correct to discuss. WHAT? I've been hearing this crap for decades, about light skinned blacks and dark skinned blacks, and it's a white power ploy to keep blacks divided. Whites cannot help blacks out of their delima... blacks need to do it for themselves and quit yelling racism. Let me give you the word. I don't remember exactly, but I can paraphrase for you. This is what the blacks of the 70's said to the white bleeding heart liberals...who got to go home after the marches, instead of being hauled out and hanged and burned...... "If you'll just step back, whitey, and get the **** out the way, we'll do it ourselves." The problem isn't that we are expected to do it for them. The problem is that we keep getting in their way. WE OWN THIS ****ING COUNTRY, and they don't, except for a tiny toehold growing out of the realization by blacks that they have got to create their own infrastructure. Are they in ageement...**** NO, they are human, and just like whites, contrary and difficult. You best hope they never completely unify into a solid block of people of a single mind. You many rant about ebonics but it has no useful purpose. To you, whitey. To you. It is as much of their identity, for some, as Cajun is to folks in Louisiana. Or boots and a cowboy had to many westerners in cattle country. Or that warm up jacket half the men in town wear to support their kids football teams. Here it is again, plain. YOU are NOT willing for them to have a white identity, but you deny them their black identity as being of "no useful purpose." Does YOUR cultural accutorments have any "useful purpose?" If so please explain with of your cultural characteristics does, how and why. I happen to, from early childhood, dressed like an english country gentleman. No one did it deliberately. It was just how my family dressed. I also lived in the west in cattle country and was in a ranching and farming family....so there are couple cultural images I project by my dress and manner in public. I would have a terrible time changing the. If I run out of cleaned slacks of a certain color at the same time I run out of laundered shirts of a certain fabric and color and have to were a mix that does NOT fit the image of ME for all these years, I damn near itch out of my skin. Even my hairstyle is part of that. I tend toward a military cut, and I were rep ties formally. That is a cultural identiy mark. My "do" and my "dashiki" are damned important to how I feel about who I am. This is a different moment in time. Different than WHAT? I really tire of hearing how we much try to understand the blacks, the muslim, the mexicans, etc. Of course you do, because you haven't really made the effort, or accepted that you will have just believe them as they are, without question and suspicion. ...and both are too hard for you. You are too lazy and afraid to learn, to ask and listen and accept the obvious truth they tell you, or would. And you are too afraid to let go of your lifetime of bias indoctrination and just trust that a man with thicker lips, a broader nose, darker skin, looks out on the world and sees exactly what you do, and thinks and feels, in the same circumstances, exactly what you do. How about if they try to undertand the majority and the values this country was built on... moral and religious. Oh brother. You really ARE a jive honkey. What the **** do you think they have done from even before emancipation? Ever been in a black christian church. It's ain't all a singing and prayin' and a swayin. The sermons of black ministers would make Jimmy Swaggart blush for HIS sinning. They hold moral behavior above all else. My neighbor's daugher from two blocks down, when I was in the city, lost control of her car on the snow and plowed into my car, a volvo....now that's expensive. I got and estimate. He showed up at my door within 10 minutes of my calling him with the number, with a check for the amount in full. She was not at fault. He simply was a moral man who HELD MORAL VALUES FAR GREATER THAN YOURS, ASSHOLE. I was his NEIGHBOR, and my color didn't matter to him. Oh, did I forget to mention he was a black working class dude? Railroad yardman I think, retired. I'm going to make a wild guess, based on the thousands of black people I've known, from down and dirty madmen and women, to highpaid corporate heads. (Look up Bechtel sometime and I'll tell you the name of the black man that headed it for a time......they BUILT Iraq, and Saudi Arabia, and major Aisan shipping port infrastructure and more around the world over the past 40 years). YOU have been had by "the man." And many seem to know it but you. As for your: How about if they try to undertand the majority and the values this country was built on... moral and religious. They did, for a hundred and more years. And what did they get? The same racist bull****, the same barriers cleverly crafted and lovingly maintained, INSTITUTIONAL RACISM, that keeps YOU babbling the **** you do. The morals they believed in, taught their children, took a hell of a beating when three little black girls were blown up in their church, THEIR CHRISTIAN CHURCH, YOU VILE LITTLE MAN, by white racists. White racists JUST LIKE YOU. Yes, JUST...........LIKE..............YOU. That were ignorant crackers that believed the superfical differences of skin, hair, and shapes, signified blacks were less than whites. After a presentation I gave many years ago...about 1990 to a mixed group of folks (and it was not primarily on race) that required me to mention, just in passing,,,maybe five or six minutes out of three hours, how black children responded to care by white foster parents, and white adoptive families, and what those children might need for connection to their identity, two young black women stayed over to talk with me. Both graduate students. One, very boldly asked me how I knew those things...things I didn't even think about as being special knowledge...and we got into something of a deep conversation. She informed me that she was a "racist" by your thinking, because she saw a need to continue her studies, get her doctorate, and take up a very special practice....only with blacks. The counselling and rehabilitation of black people, in the aftermath, some 100 years plus later, of slavery. She wanted to treat the damage she was convinced had happened and still existed from generation to generation. I was just a little stunned. R R R She wanted to know what this old white dude thought about that, and if I thought she was on the right track. What the **** could I say about that? That kind of insight into one's self is rare. I spectulated just how much black thinkers, like this young one, had pondered this and how introspective they were. I think, generally, more than you and I could imagine, or fathom. I don't know if that is healthy or not, or if it is useful or not, but I sure would not want to stand in her way. For all I know she was jivin' me, but I don't think so. And I asked her how she came to see this pathology as still existing. From her "own black teachers" she answered. Somethin's UP whitey. Somethin's up, and from what I see in the hood, I'd say she may be out there workin' away, howin' her row of cotton, so to speak. The moral of this story? How much longer, after slavery, are black people going to have think about this special status you give them? That they are negatively different than whites, when to anyone with half a brain and a bit more honesty than you have can see THERE IS NO REAL ****IN' DIFFERENCE, HONKIE!? Race is YOUR problem. Not a black problem. When YOU stop this stupid **** you are running out here "the race problem" will be no more. Because YOU stopped being a bigoted racist. Do you really thing blacks invented racism in the US? The problem then, as I've pointed out to you, and I think you admitted, is bigotry. Race is just an issue to be bigotted about. Just to cheer you up. I went out for International Tai Chi day today. About 300 of us met on a college campus, while all around the world, others like us, all colors, bubbah, did our "forms" together. Then I goofed the day away running errands in town, and at six pm attend a surprize 60th b'day party at a popular neighborhood sports bar for my wife's cousin. Happens, though my wife and her cousin are german by ancestry, she marred a Japanese man, and raised four kids, 2 boys and 2 girls. Neither she or her husband are very good looking...kind of ugly in fact, but the children, all four are absolutely gorgeous,, and their kids...whooee...even more beautiful. Hybrid vigor will do that to yah. I had a grand time. Met the old grandparents, 88 and 91, and goin' strong (Okinawan if I don't miss my guess) and we chatted...I worked for an Okinawan man right after WWII. Sharpest horse trainer I've ever known. Worked Bing Crosby's race horses and ran them. I know, you think I make all this up, and knowing how stuck you are, it gives me a great chuckle to relate these events, knowing they all are true. You don't believe what I tell you about "race" either, and except were I might be wrong from ignorance (and I try to remember to tell you when I'm guessing or speculating) but not much otherwise, what I tell you is true. My brothers were delivered by a sweet woman that lost her children for a very long time...because, though they were clean, well fed, and well educated, she slept four of them to a bed, and she and they were black. I did have them as friends, practically brothers and sisters, and I did hear an old white neighbor lady that up to that moment I held in great affection, call them dirty little pickaninnies, and ask why my mother let me play with them. I did become indoctrinated that day, the first of many such indoctrinations that cost me in my heart, that I was too young to resist. And YOU are not different than that lady. I hate you for what you take away from us, from all of us that don't want your world of little ****ball petty bigotry. Had it not been for your kind, and you being a sucker for institutional racism indoctrination I might have never lost those people that were dear to me. But we are still winning, you sorry piece of bigot crap. We are not going to give up. No matter how long it takes. And YES. What you think you are losing is going be taken, but it was just your fantasy anyway. It's the whites that have been immoral. And you'll be held accountable for it. Consider your balloon burst. Go back to your racist propaganda publications. bobb Kane, niger lover extraordinaire, kinda like those "messicans" too, pretty much miss my asian family and friends, keep messin' with us honkey and see what it get's yah, YOU don't own the U.S.A. if you won't share you will get nothing. |
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