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How to stop him?
"Gini" wrote in What facts are you looking for? This group has one heck of an archive in Not interested in the archive, more in the future and keeping up with current events. |
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"DB" wrote "Gini" wrote in What facts are you looking for? This group has one heck of an archive in Not interested in the archive, more in the future and keeping up with current events. == Well, I was replying to Dale but, the info in the archives references family law and legal procedure for many jurisdictions and remains unchanged. It also includes information on Social Security benefits relating to SSI, SSD, dependents and survivors and how SS affects child support awards. There is also information on common law marriage and how child support applies in those cases and child support during incarceration in certain jurisdictions. There is also lots of information on post-minority support in many jurisdictions and what states consider subsequent children in their child support guidelines and reduce support for parenting time and extended summer parenting. For instance, in some states, CS can be reduced by half for "visits" exceding one month. Of course, there's more than ten years of postings resulting in a veritable encyclopedia of information and personal experiences in family law and court. The again, perhaps you already know all that stuff. In that case, I'm sure others will find benefit in it. |
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"Chris" wrote in message ... "Janet" wrote in message ... How do you people jump to these conclusions? I do NOT have control issues and I'm not getting rich off my daughter. I only asked for the support to help pay for her needs. And for the record I'm not fat or lazy! For your record, I said your POCKETS are fat/lazy. Pockets are inanimate - they cannot be fat nor lazy. The child support amount has already been set so this is not about that. Non sequitur. I just don't see how an almost total stranger can be allowed to force a child to go alone with him. As I've already said, she does not like him. I know she'll fight him if he comes to get her. I'll have a video camera rolling so that I can show the judge if he gets rough with her! I just can't understand why he'd even want to do that to her in the first place if he's such a loving father. A loving father is one that teaches his child who's the boss. Contrarily, an UNloving mother is one who submits to her child's demands. On Thu, 7 Dec 2006 10:55:49 -0800, "Chris" wrote: "Bob Whiteside" wrote in message ... "Janet" wrote in message ... My exboyfriend and I had a little girl in 1999. He took no interest in her until I filed for child support a year ago. Now that I filed for support he wants to see her all the time. She is very uncomfortable around him and I have my doubts about him as well. I just got a notice of a hearing for him wanting to establish forced parenting time! She hardly knows this man. She doesn't even like seeing him at my house. Can he just come in and take her out of here that way? She is seeing a therapist for emotional issues and I'm afraid that this will set her back if she is forced to go visiting him. I told him he could see her over here but he says that isn't good enough. Is there any way I can stop him? Will the court make her see him? I can't bear the thought of her being dragged out of the house kicking and screaming. It will break my heart. Would they really allow that to happen? Thanks for your help. Parenting time plans are used to establish CS awards. CS can be set administratively and then get court approval. Parenting time plans require separate approval and can only be set by the courts. I'm sure that she is well aware of this. That's why she's trying to line her fat lazy pockets with the maximum amount of free cash. The day she drops her "child support" lawsuit is the day that I will believe that it's not about stealin' his money. , but only about keeping the child fatherless. Your child's father is not doing anything unusual. From the tone of your original post it sounds like you might have some control issues. "Might"? Since the two of you had a child together your lives will be intertwined forever through the child. Get used to it and stop trying to drive her father away. |
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"Moon Shyne" wrote in message ... "Chris" wrote in message ... "Janet" wrote in message ... How do you people jump to these conclusions? I do NOT have control issues and I'm not getting rich off my daughter. I only asked for the support to help pay for her needs. And for the record I'm not fat or lazy! For your record, I said your POCKETS are fat/lazy. Pockets are inanimate - they cannot be fat nor lazy. Proving once again you have no concept of figurative speech or the use of allegory to express an intellectual point. |
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"Bob Whiteside" wrote in message ... "Moon Shyne" wrote in message ... "Chris" wrote in message ... "Janet" wrote in message ... How do you people jump to these conclusions? I do NOT have control issues and I'm not getting rich off my daughter. I only asked for the support to help pay for her needs. And for the record I'm not fat or lazy! For your record, I said your POCKETS are fat/lazy. Pockets are inanimate - they cannot be fat nor lazy. Proving once again you have no concept of figurative speech or the use of allegory to express an intellectual point. Chris doesn't express intellectual points. He's made that clear, repeatedly. |
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"teachrmama" wrote in message ... "Janet" wrote in message ... Why are you attacking me like this? I'm only concerned about my daughter. You call me a whore and say I'm screwing around with everyone. Instead of reading your OPINIONS into my situation try to read what I posted! Again, my ex has NOT been told he can't see her. The only thing I've said is that she is not ready to go with him alone. I've told him he can see her whenever he wants. She has already told me that she doesn't want to be alone with him. Why is that so hard to understand? The therapy she is going to is for an anger problem that is unrelated to my ex. She has been lashing out at everyone, not just him. If he comes here to get her she will be kicking and screaming. Do you think that is good for a child to be forced? She DOESN'T want to see him here so how is it going to help to just have her dragged out of the house? That is your answer? She's already suffered enough. She doesn't like changes like that. Janet, your daughter NEEDS to learn to accept change. She will be a terrribly UNHEALTHY person if she cannot do that. YOU have the power to help her. YOU! Think about her in the long range instead of just right now. Think about what her life is going to be like if you don't teach her HOW to accept changes. You can go with her to see her father other places than just your home. You can SHOW HER how to have a good time with him by HAVING A GOOD TIME WITH HIM YOURSELF. You need to be her example in this. I'm sure she senses your reluctance, and that is forming a part of her attitude. Show her how to put aside the reluctance and take that first step. You are the only one that can make this easier for her. I know you love her. Her father will always be a part of her life. HELP her with this instead of trying to find ways to keep it from happening. She will be healthier and happier in the long run, and she will have her father, which every child deserves. You don't REALLY think she buys this, do you? Now if you have a helpful answer fine. In the meantime you need to quit judging someone you know nothing about! On Thu, 7 Dec 2006 11:56:18 -0700, "Mr. Anonymous" wrote: "Janet" wrote in message . .. Why would I want to encourage this? As I said before she is having to see a therapist because she is having emotional problems related to change. Any change in her routine sets off a crying fit. It will not help her to be forced to go with someone that she doesn't want to see.I thought they used the best interest of the child to determine these things? Translation: Why would I want my daughter to know her father? As I said before, I successfully ruined my life and my daughters life when I acted like a whore and screwed every Tom, Dick, and Harry. Now I have my paycheck here, and I want to collect without any issue. It doesn't matter that I ruined my daughter's life, she'll get over it, just pay me already. I thought mothers had more rights in court when determining these things? Her father was just someone that I had a brief fling with. We didn't really care that much about each other and we both understood that. If he is such a caring father then where was for the first 6 years of her life? He could have found me if he wanted. Now just because I asked for some help with the kid that he is halfway responsible for all of a sudden he wants to act like hes a real dad to her. She doesn't even like him. She got along fine without him all this time and now he shows up disrupting her life. Is that fair to her? Do the courts really think it will be in her best interest to have her being dragged out of the house by someone she doesn't like and just barely knows? That seems like child abuse! Translation: I'm a degenerate whore who wants all the thrills and none of the responsibility. I can justify my stance as a whore because sex is a two-some thing, and he did it too, so that justifies my screwing around with every Tom, Dick, and Harry. Now, 6 years later, I'm ready to cash in, I sure fooled him!! He thought I was out of his life, now since I'm smarter than him, I get to collect!! During these last 6 years, I had everything planned. I taught my daughter to hate men, how to collect from them, how to screw them, and I have successfully ruined her life for my own selfish wants. Now, that I am trying to collect, I find it unfair that this is not a one sided battle. I just want my paycheck, why does he have to fight with me? Why doesn't he just go ahead and give my all his money and leave me and my ruined daughter alone? Doesn't he know that his plans to spend time with his daughter is totally disrupting my plan for a free ride? This has to be child abuse, because I don't like it. On Wed, 6 Dec 2006 06:12:16 -0800, "teachrmama" wrote: "Janet" wrote in message m... My exboyfriend and I had a little girl in 1999. He took no interest in her until I filed for child support a year ago. Now that I filed for support he wants to see her all the time. She is very uncomfortable around him and I have my doubts about him as well. I just got a notice of a hearing for him wanting to establish forced parenting time! She hardly knows this man. She doesn't even like seeing him at my house. Can he just come in and take her out of here that way? She is seeing a therapist for emotional issues and I'm afraid that this will set her back if she is forced to go visiting him. I told him he could see her over here but he says that isn't good enough. Is there any way I can stop him? Will the court make her see him? I can't bear the thought of her being dragged out of the house kicking and screaming. It will break my heart. Would they really allow that to happen? It's going to be up to you to make this easy for her. The judge almost certaily will assign him time with his chld. So you need to start talking about all the wonderful things little girls can do with their fathers. Talk to him, and arrange for the 3 of you to start doing some things together--go out for a hamburger, go see a movie, etc. Laugh with him, talk with him. Let HER see what a nice man he is. (You obviously did more thatn laugh and talk at one point in time, or she wouldn't be here) Let her see the man you cared enough about to create her. YOU have the power to help this happen without trauma. Be a loving mother to your daughter and help her get to know and love her daddy. |
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"Gini" wrote in message news:r9jeh.382$Ft4.26@trnddc02... "DB" wrote "Gini" wrote in What facts are you looking for? This group has one heck of an archive in Not interested in the archive, more in the future and keeping up with current events. == Well, I was replying to Dale but, the info in the archives references family law and legal procedure for many jurisdictions and remains unchanged. It also includes information on Social Security benefits relating to SSI, SSD, dependents and survivors and how SS affects child support awards. There is also information on common law marriage and how child support applies in those cases and child support during incarceration in certain jurisdictions. There is also lots of information on post-minority support in many jurisdictions and what states consider subsequent children in their child support guidelines and reduce support for parenting time and extended summer parenting. For instance, in some states, CS can be reduced by half for "visits" exceding one month. Of course, there's more than ten years of postings resulting in a veritable encyclopedia of information and personal experiences in family law and court. The again, perhaps you already know all that stuff. In that case, I'm sure others will find benefit in it. There is more wisdom in one post here than the ENTIRE "child support" industry. |
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"Phil" wrote in message ink.net... "Janet" wrote in message ... How do you people jump to these conclusions? I do NOT have control issues and I'm not getting rich off my daughter. I only asked for the support to help pay for her needs. And for the record I'm not fat or lazy! The child support amount has already been set so this is not about that. I just don't see how an almost total stranger can be allowed to force a child to go alone with him. As I've already said, she does not like him. I know she'll fight him if he comes to get her. I'll have a video camera rolling so that I can show the judge if he gets rough with her! I just can't understand why he'd even want to do that to her in the first place if he's such a loving father. It's the little things you say like "I'll have a video camera rolling so that I can show the judge if he gets rough with her!", mixed with the hundreds of little things you don't say that are clues to who you are and what you're about. Indeed! It may not say "I'm a duck", but when it walks and when it talks.................. Phil #3 [snip] |
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"Moon Shyne" wrote in message ... "Bob Whiteside" wrote in message ... "Moon Shyne" wrote in message ... "Chris" wrote in message ... "Janet" wrote in message ... How do you people jump to these conclusions? I do NOT have control issues and I'm not getting rich off my daughter. I only asked for the support to help pay for her needs. And for the record I'm not fat or lazy! For your record, I said your POCKETS are fat/lazy. Pockets are inanimate - they cannot be fat nor lazy. Proving once again you have no concept of figurative speech or the use of allegory to express an intellectual point. Chris doesn't express intellectual points. He's made that clear, repeatedly. Well thank you for your opinion. |
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"ghostwriter" wrote in message ps.com... Janet wrote: How do you people jump to these conclusions? I do NOT have control issues and I'm not getting rich off my daughter. I only asked for the support to help pay for her needs. And for the record I'm not fat or lazy! The child support amount has already been set so this is not about that. I just don't see how an almost total stranger can be allowed to force a child to go alone with him. As I've already said, she does not like him. I know she'll fight him if he comes to get her. I'll have a video camera rolling so that I can show the judge if he gets rough with her! I just can't understand why he'd even want to do that to her in the first place if he's such a loving father. He is her father, he has every right to pick her up and carry her out of your house if it is necessary. He has every right to spank her if she resists going with him. Nothing changes the fact that he is her FATHER, not a stranger however much you wish it. If he has not surrendered his parental right, willingly or otherwise, it is not the place for a CHILD to tell her PARENT that they cant be a PARENT. She is a child, her desires only really matter on the choices that her parents(PLURAL) decide to allow her. He may very well not be as good a parent as you are, but that doesnt somehow void his legal rights. If he is paying and making an honest attempt to know and care for his daughter then your little girl is just going to have to deal with it. This is the fault of you and him, for being foolish enough to get pregnant and not able to make the relationship work. Now your daughter gets to suffer for your mistakes. The mature choice for you would be to develop a relationship with her father that minimizes the conflict and to keep any conflict away from where she will see it. When he shows up you have to make it clear that your daughter doesnt have a choice and that YOU will punish her if she doesnt listen to her father. Frankly the visits in your house were likley very akward if not hostile, so I am not surpised she doesnt like him. BED, MADE, LIE and grow up. Well put! Apparently, this woman is of the feminazi belief that the importance, rights, etc. of a mother trumps those of a father by default; that a child has a right to a mother but NOT a father. That may be what her government people claim, but they have yet to support such position with any reasoning................ ANY! Ghostwriter On Thu, 7 Dec 2006 10:55:49 -0800, "Chris" wrote: "Bob Whiteside" wrote in message ... "Janet" wrote in message ... My exboyfriend and I had a little girl in 1999. He took no interest in her until I filed for child support a year ago. Now that I filed for support he wants to see her all the time. She is very uncomfortable around him and I have my doubts about him as well. I just got a notice of a hearing for him wanting to establish forced parenting time! She hardly knows this man. She doesn't even like seeing him at my house. Can he just come in and take her out of here that way? She is seeing a therapist for emotional issues and I'm afraid that this will set her back if she is forced to go visiting him. I told him he could see her over here but he says that isn't good enough. Is there any way I can stop him? Will the court make her see him? I can't bear the thought of her being dragged out of the house kicking and screaming. It will break my heart. Would they really allow that to happen? Thanks for your help. Parenting time plans are used to establish CS awards. CS can be set administratively and then get court approval. Parenting time plans require separate approval and can only be set by the courts. I'm sure that she is well aware of this. That's why she's trying to line her fat lazy pockets with the maximum amount of free cash. The day she drops her "child support" lawsuit is the day that I will believe that it's not about stealin' his money. , but only about keeping the child fatherless. Your child's father is not doing anything unusual. From the tone of your original post it sounds like you might have some control issues. "Might"? Since the two of you had a child together your lives will be intertwined forever through the child. Get used to it and stop trying to drive her father away. |
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