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  #21  
Old January 9th 08, 04:38 AM posted to misc.kids.health,misc.health.alternative
Jan Drew
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Default Autism rates increasing after the removal of thimerosal


"Peter Bowditch" wrote:
They will tell lies, of course.


KATCHING...............

loons like Boyd Haley

KATCHING

it Peter Bowditch

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Old January 9th 08, 05:15 AM posted to misc.kids.health,misc.health.alternative
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Default Autism rates increasing after the removal of thimerosal

"Jan Drew" wrote:


"Mark Probert" wrote

anti-vac liar sociopaths

evil fools they are.


Excellent, Jan. Now you're getting it.

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Old January 9th 08, 05:16 AM posted to misc.kids.health,misc.health.alternative
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"Jan Drew" wrote:

loons like Boyd Haley


Keep it up, Jan. You are doing well and there is hope for even more
improvement.

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  #24  
Old January 9th 08, 12:03 PM posted to misc.kids.health,misc.health.alternative
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"Jeff" wrote in message
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You're the one making the claim. You support it.

Jeff


you claim they are safe so provide the evidence each ingredient is safe


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Old January 9th 08, 01:36 PM posted to misc.kids.health, misc.health.alternative
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Default Autism rates increasing after the removal of thimerosal

On Jan 8, 12:29*am, Vaccine-man wrote:
Well, well - lookie, lookie...

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=4099059&page=1

Thimerosal has nothing to do with autisms? Say it isn't so john, yuri,
jan-the-man, and Kevysmom! *Can you guys believe that? What will you
do now?


All thet really needs to be said about this study From
http://www.businessweek.com/lifestyl...ndex_lifestyle

"The study makes clear that "thimerosal cannot be the major cause of
autism in California," said its lead author, Dr. Robert Schechter,
medical officer with the Immunization Branch of the California
Department of Public Health. "

Would you really expect Dr. Bob to find that his branch of medicine
caused at least some of the autism cases. Sort of like Gonzales
investigating the Justice department
  #26  
Old January 9th 08, 06:02 PM posted to misc.kids.health, misc.health.alternative
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On Jan 9, 8:36 am, bigvince wrote:



Let us take a closer look at what is being provided by these two
articles.

The autism rate in 1990 was 3/10K. It was around 1990 when the big
push for vaccine usage began. The rate in 1996 was 13/10K, an
increase of 433%. The rate in 2000 was 45/10K as measured in 6 yr
olds in 2006. This is an increase of 1500 % from 1990. The increase
in vaccine usage was, coincidentally, over 1000% during that same time
period.

Additionally, thimerosal was not fully removed from vaccines until
2003, supposedly. It is still found in the flu jab and others. Still
one has to look at the language used. "...And the most recent research
to nullify this association, published Monday in the journal Archives
of General Psychiatry, reveals that the prevalence of autism for
children ages 3 to 12 continued to increase in California even after
2001 -- when all but trace levels of mercury had been removed from
most childhood vaccines." The key words are" trace levels" and "most
childhood vaccines." Define trace levels. The medical gods have
always argued that thimerosal was always administered in safe, trace
levels. Define most. Most is not all.
Who did the study? Does their job and reputation depend upon there
being no connection between mercury and immunization?
"The study makes clear that "thimerosal cannot be the major cause of
autism in California," said its lead author, Dr. Robert Schechter,
medical officer with the Immunization Branch of the California
Department of Public Health. "
Certainly this person can have no credibility. For such a study to be
valid it must be conducted by competent statisticians with no
connection to the vaccine and medical industry, the Immunization
branch of the California DPH, and not be in fear of reprisals.
Finally we read: "Another expert called the study limited and said it
did not prove that vaccines have no connection to autism." That
pretty much sums up the value of Schechter's work.
DrCee

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Old January 9th 08, 10:15 PM posted to misc.kids.health, misc.health.alternative
Kevysmom[_2_]
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Default Autism rates increasing after the removal of thimerosal

On Jan 8, 11:29*pm, Mark Probert wrote:
Peter Bowditch wrote:
Vaccine-man wrote:


Well, well - lookie, lookie...


http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=4099059&page=1


Thimerosal has nothing to do with autisms? Say it isn't so john, yuri,
jan-the-man, and Kevysmom! *Can you guys believe that? What will you
do now?


They will tell lies, of course.


The lies will depend on which media outlet they get the story from.
For example, in this version the ignorant journalist says "thimerosal
-- which contains 49.6 percent ethylmercury", so this will be seized
on as "proof" that loons like Boyd Haley are telling the truth.
Another outlet included a comment by Dr Eric Fombonne (who was not
associated with the research), so this will be seized on as "proof"
that vested interests are behind the research. (They might even repeat
the ludicrous claim that Dr Fombonne is not qualified to speak about
the spread of autism because he is a psychiatrist and epidemiologist,
qualifications which would meet the expectations of anybody with a
working brain cell.)


And so it goes ...


Shortly after I read the study, I saw droves of unemployed anti-vac liar
sociopaths walking the streets looking for work.

I woke up, and realized that it was only a dream.

They are already spinning this study and ignoring the facts.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -



Oh, you are such a comedian!
  #28  
Old January 10th 08, 07:28 PM posted to misc.kids.health,misc.health.alternative
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Default Autism rates increasing after the removal of thimerosal


"Mark Probert" wrote in message
news:ZdKgj.4356$vX6.2735@trndny05...
Vaccine-man wrote:
Well, well - lookie, lookie...

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=4099059&page=1

Thimerosal has nothing to do with autisms? Say it isn't so john, yuri,
jan-the-man, and Kevysmom! Can you guys believe that? What will you
do now?


No matter how the anti-vac liar sociopaths twist and turn, they cannot
get around this one. The study was done by employees of the CDDS of the
statistics that they had claimed were the proof of the imaginary epidemic.

Of course, they will try, but they will continue to look like the evil
fools they are.


So I guess that just leaves the Amish community who don't vaccinate and who
don't get autism.

So Peter, what did they replace the mercury with?

Carole
www.cellsalts.net




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Old January 10th 08, 09:23 PM posted to misc.kids.health,misc.health.alternative
Peter Bowditch
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Default Autism rates increasing after the removal of thimerosal

"Carole" wrote:


"Mark Probert" wrote in message
news:ZdKgj.4356$vX6.2735@trndny05...
Vaccine-man wrote:
Well, well - lookie, lookie...

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=4099059&page=1

Thimerosal has nothing to do with autisms? Say it isn't so john, yuri,
jan-the-man, and Kevysmom! Can you guys believe that? What will you
do now?


No matter how the anti-vac liar sociopaths twist and turn, they cannot
get around this one. The study was done by employees of the CDDS of the
statistics that they had claimed were the proof of the imaginary epidemic.

Of course, they will try, but they will continue to look like the evil
fools they are.


So I guess that just leaves the Amish community who don't vaccinate and who
don't get autism.


The Amish do get autism. Do not believe everything you read.


So Peter, what did they replace the mercury with?


Refrigeration and single-dose vials.

I notice that you used the name Peter when replying to Mark. I
remember Andrew Kingoff saying once that everyone here except me was a
sock puppet. I didn't think anyone would believe it, but evidence has
appeared twice in the last two days.


Carole
www.cellsalts.net




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Old January 10th 08, 09:57 PM posted to misc.kids.health,misc.health.alternative
vernon O
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Default Autism rates increasing after the removal of thimerosal


"Carole" wrote in message
...

"Mark Probert" wrote in message
news:ZdKgj.4356$vX6.2735@trndny05...
Vaccine-man wrote:
Well, well - lookie, lookie...

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=4099059&page=1

Thimerosal has nothing to do with autisms? Say it isn't so john, yuri,
jan-the-man, and Kevysmom! Can you guys believe that? What will you
do now?


No matter how the anti-vac liar sociopaths twist and turn, they cannot
get around this one. The study was done by employees of the CDDS of the
statistics that they had claimed were the proof of the imaginary
epidemic.

Of course, they will try, but they will continue to look like the evil
fools they are.


So I guess that just leaves the Amish community who don't vaccinate and
who
don't get autism.

So Peter, what did they replace the mercury with?

Carole


Who said mercury was the cause? You?
May it is, maybe it isn't, either way, Amish are a very small genetic
sampling.


 




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