Boy/Girl Anatomy - Ack! They are asking!!!

"Gummy Joe" wrote in message
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I think "private parts" is sort of burdening to a child. It gets the ball
rolling toard sexual dystrophy and a fear of real intimacy. I mean, how
young does someone have to be for us to start slinging pejorative epithets
at their sexual awakening?

What's the matter with privacy? I mean, they're not PUBLIC parts, are they?
They're private. They belong to the child, and the child doesn't have to
share them. What's the matter with privacy? When one becomes an adult,
*very* likely, even the healthiest of sexual relationships will be carried
on in the privacy of a closed space, not out on a blanket in the middle of a
busy park.

I, personally, teach the medical names (urethra, vagina, anus or rectum,
vulva, labia, smegma) as well as the child's rights: private. If a child
wants to touch himself, or herself, *fine*, go ahead, but please do it in
private, it's nobody's business but theirs. When they want to make it
somebody else's business (hopefully at an age of some maturity), then that
will likely be done in private also.

What exactly is this 'pejorative epithet' you worry might be slung? A
child's genitalia is not a bad secret to be kept, and calling those parts
'private' doesn't make them bad. Making them sexual before the child is
mature enough to desire and handle that - now that's bad.

--angela

"Gummy Joe" wrote in message
. com...

I think "private parts" is sort of burdening to a child. It gets the ball
rolling toard sexual dystrophy and a fear of real intimacy. I mean, how
young does someone have to be for us to start slinging pejorative epithets
at their sexual awakening?

What's the matter with privacy? I mean, they're not PUBLIC parts, are they?
They're private. They belong to the child, and the child doesn't have to
share them. What's the matter with privacy? When one becomes an adult,
*very* likely, even the healthiest of sexual relationships will be carried
on in the privacy of a closed space, not out on a blanket in the middle of a
busy park.

I, personally, teach the medical names (urethra, vagina, anus or rectum,
vulva, labia, smegma) as well as the child's rights: private. If a child
wants to touch himself, or herself, *fine*, go ahead, but please do it in
private, it's nobody's business but theirs. When they want to make it
somebody else's business (hopefully at an age of some maturity), then that
will likely be done in private also.

What exactly is this 'pejorative epithet' you worry might be slung? A
child's genitalia is not a bad secret to be kept, and calling those parts
'private' doesn't make them bad. Making them sexual before the child is
mature enough to desire and handle that - now that's bad.

--angela

Chotii wrote:
"shirley" wrote in message
news:UuFDc.162499$3x.76282@attbi_s54...


Kathleen started to develop breasts at 8 and some odd and end hair!
Needless to say I rushed her to the doctor who said she was perfectly
normal. Since that day she has developed rapidly. At 9.5 (one more

month)

she is fully matured physically, growing daily and I swear she'll be
borrowing my bra's within no time - and my shoes - she wears a size 8.5-9.


I have no idea why your doctor considers onset of menarche at 8 to be
"perfectly normal". Little girls are not meant to be mature women at the age
of 8, or 9, or 10. They're certainly not prepared emotionally to deal with
the sexual attention they WILL get as a result of being sexually mature. Not
to mention that early puberty puts her at higher risk for breast cancer (and
by the way, could have been treated with estrogen-antagonist medication). I
think you were right to rush her to the doctor. I think he did you a
disservice.

http://www.center4policy.org/children11.html

http://www.007b.com/early_puberty.php

http://www.drgreene.com/21_356.html

--angela




I don't think Shirley said she had started her period, only that her
breasts were growing and her physique was changing, that can start as
early as 8, though 8 is on the early side, from experience with my
daughters and their friends those that started developing around 9
tended to have their period by 11. Interestingly those girls are very
short and stocky/dumpy type physiques, not sure if early development
stunts the growth or if a stockier type body shape leads it's self to
earlier puberty. I know the earlier you get your period the shorter you
will be as once it starts upward growth is slowed considerably (why put
energy into going up when you need it for padding and filling) but not
sure if their is a correlation with simply pubescent development.

A

Chotii wrote:
"shirley" wrote in message
news:UuFDc.162499$3x.76282@attbi_s54...


Kathleen started to develop breasts at 8 and some odd and end hair!
Needless to say I rushed her to the doctor who said she was perfectly
normal. Since that day she has developed rapidly. At 9.5 (one more

month)

she is fully matured physically, growing daily and I swear she'll be
borrowing my bra's within no time - and my shoes - she wears a size 8.5-9.


I have no idea why your doctor considers onset of menarche at 8 to be
"perfectly normal". Little girls are not meant to be mature women at the age
of 8, or 9, or 10. They're certainly not prepared emotionally to deal with
the sexual attention they WILL get as a result of being sexually mature. Not
to mention that early puberty puts her at higher risk for breast cancer (and
by the way, could have been treated with estrogen-antagonist medication). I
think you were right to rush her to the doctor. I think he did you a
disservice.

http://www.center4policy.org/children11.html

http://www.007b.com/early_puberty.php

http://www.drgreene.com/21_356.html

--angela




I don't think Shirley said she had started her period, only that her
breasts were growing and her physique was changing, that can start as
early as 8, though 8 is on the early side, from experience with my
daughters and their friends those that started developing around 9
tended to have their period by 11. Interestingly those girls are very
short and stocky/dumpy type physiques, not sure if early development
stunts the growth or if a stockier type body shape leads it's self to
earlier puberty. I know the earlier you get your period the shorter you
will be as once it starts upward growth is slowed considerably (why put
energy into going up when you need it for padding and filling) but not
sure if their is a correlation with simply pubescent development.

A

Chotii wrote:
"shirley" wrote in message
news:UuFDc.162499$3x.76282@attbi_s54...


Kathleen started to develop breasts at 8 and some odd and end hair!
Needless to say I rushed her to the doctor who said she was perfectly
normal. Since that day she has developed rapidly. At 9.5 (one more

month)

she is fully matured physically, growing daily and I swear she'll be
borrowing my bra's within no time - and my shoes - she wears a size 8.5-9.


I have no idea why your doctor considers onset of menarche at 8 to be
"perfectly normal". Little girls are not meant to be mature women at the age
of 8, or 9, or 10. They're certainly not prepared emotionally to deal with
the sexual attention they WILL get as a result of being sexually mature. Not
to mention that early puberty puts her at higher risk for breast cancer (and
by the way, could have been treated with estrogen-antagonist medication). I
think you were right to rush her to the doctor. I think he did you a
disservice.

http://www.center4policy.org/children11.html

http://www.007b.com/early_puberty.php

http://www.drgreene.com/21_356.html

--angela




I don't think Shirley said she had started her period, only that her
breasts were growing and her physique was changing, that can start as
early as 8, though 8 is on the early side, from experience with my
daughters and their friends those that started developing around 9
tended to have their period by 11. Interestingly those girls are very
short and stocky/dumpy type physiques, not sure if early development
stunts the growth or if a stockier type body shape leads it's self to
earlier puberty. I know the earlier you get your period the shorter you
will be as once it starts upward growth is slowed considerably (why put
energy into going up when you need it for padding and filling) but not
sure if their is a correlation with simply pubescent development.

A

I think "private parts" is sort of burdening to a child. It gets the ball
rolling toard sexual dystrophy and a fear of real intimacy.

I don't understand why. We cover our private parts with diapers, bras and
underwear because they are private. We ask our children to not pull up their
dresses or pull down their pants because they are private. We put doors on
bathroom stalls because it's private. What's wrong with a little privacy and
teaching that our bodies are private and our own? (rhetorical question) Being
modest is not disfunctional. Quite the opposite...

Stephanie
Jake and Ryan 9/3/99

I think "private parts" is sort of burdening to a child. It gets the ball
rolling toard sexual dystrophy and a fear of real intimacy.

I don't understand why. We cover our private parts with diapers, bras and
underwear because they are private. We ask our children to not pull up their
dresses or pull down their pants because they are private. We put doors on
bathroom stalls because it's private. What's wrong with a little privacy and
teaching that our bodies are private and our own? (rhetorical question) Being
modest is not disfunctional. Quite the opposite...

Stephanie
Jake and Ryan 9/3/99

I think "private parts" is sort of burdening to a child. It gets the ball
rolling toard sexual dystrophy and a fear of real intimacy.

I don't understand why. We cover our private parts with diapers, bras and
underwear because they are private. We ask our children to not pull up their
dresses or pull down their pants because they are private. We put doors on
bathroom stalls because it's private. What's wrong with a little privacy and
teaching that our bodies are private and our own? (rhetorical question) Being
modest is not disfunctional. Quite the opposite...

Stephanie
Jake and Ryan 9/3/99

"Unadulterated Me" wrote in message
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I don't think Shirley said she had started her period, only that her
breasts were growing and her physique was changing, that can start as
early as 8, though 8 is on the early side, from experience with my
daughters and their friends those that started developing around 9
tended to have their period by 11. Interestingly those girls are very
short and stocky/dumpy type physiques, not sure if early development
stunts the growth or if a stockier type body shape leads it's self to
earlier puberty. I know the earlier you get your period the shorter you
will be as once it starts upward growth is slowed considerably (why put
energy into going up when you need it for padding and filling) but not
sure if their is a correlation with simply pubescent development.

http://www.drgreene.com/21_356.html

Well, the Dr. Greene page indicates that height-growth in girls pretty much
stops at puberty. Mind you, I remember my breasts beginning to grow around
age 12, I didn't start my period until I was 13, and I'm 4'10". I'm afraid
to think how short I might have been if I'd started puberty younger!

--angela

"Unadulterated Me" wrote in message
...

I don't think Shirley said she had started her period, only that her
breasts were growing and her physique was changing, that can start as
early as 8, though 8 is on the early side, from experience with my
daughters and their friends those that started developing around 9
tended to have their period by 11. Interestingly those girls are very
short and stocky/dumpy type physiques, not sure if early development
stunts the growth or if a stockier type body shape leads it's self to
earlier puberty. I know the earlier you get your period the shorter you
will be as once it starts upward growth is slowed considerably (why put
energy into going up when you need it for padding and filling) but not
sure if their is a correlation with simply pubescent development.

http://www.drgreene.com/21_356.html

Well, the Dr. Greene page indicates that height-growth in girls pretty much
stops at puberty. Mind you, I remember my breasts beginning to grow around
age 12, I didn't start my period until I was 13, and I'm 4'10". I'm afraid
to think how short I might have been if I'd started puberty younger!

--angela