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April 20th 06, 12:04 AM
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That damned organized medicine
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/...n1513208.shtml
How preposterous of organized medicine to claim it is saving lives. They are either (1) misrepresenting the facts, (2) lying, (3) covering something up, (4) have a conflict of interest, or (5) all of the above. Shame on big pharma and big medicine. We need a congressional inquiry - can someone call Dan Burton? 
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April 20th 06, 03:12 AM
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That damned organized medicine
wrote in message oups.com... http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/...n1513208.shtml How preposterous of organized medicine to claim it is saving lives. They are either (1) misrepresenting the facts, (2) lying, (3) covering something up, (4) have a conflict of interest, or (5) all of the above. Shame on big pharma and big medicine. We need a congressional inquiry - can someone call Dan Burton? About 1/2 the people with cancer are cured, (unless their tumors or polyps are removed before they become cancerous). And around 75% of kids with cancer are cured. People who have heart disease get better treatment than ever before. Vaccines save thousands of kids from dying from infectious disease each year. People who are in serious car crashes or get shot are more likely to recover than ever before. Diabetics get better treatment (although paying for it is an issue). People with AIDS and HIV, diabetes, cystic fibrosis and other diseases live longer and healthier lives than ever before. ziggittes, please get a clue. jeff
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April 20th 06, 05:16 AM
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That damned organized medicine
Surely, Jeff, you did not miss my sarcasm?
Vaccine-Man
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April 20th 06, 06:03 AM
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That damned organized medicine
"Jeff" wrote in message ink.net... wrote in message oups.com... http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/...n1513208.shtml How preposterous of organized medicine to claim it is saving lives. They are either (1) misrepresenting the facts, (2) lying, (3) covering something up, (4) have a conflict of interest, or (5) all of the above. Shame on big pharma and big medicine. We need a congressional inquiry - can someone call Dan Burton? About 1/2 the people with cancer are cured, (unless their tumors or polyps are removed before they become cancerous). And around 75% of kids with cancer are cured. People who have heart disease get better treatment than ever before. Vaccines save thousands of kids from dying from infectious disease each year. People who are in serious car crashes or get shot are more likely to recover than ever before. Diabetics get better treatment (although paying for it is an issue). People with AIDS and HIV, diabetes, cystic fibrosis and other diseases live longer and healthier lives than ever before. ziggittes, please get a clue. jeff No, Jeff, you get a clue and think, if possible... People are living longer, that does not mean healthier, it means more people in nursing homes, more people with Alzheimer's. It means SS in going to stop. It means we do not have enough working force to support to take care of the elderly. It means all kinds of economically problems. Go visit a nursing home, Jeff and ziggittes and get a REAL awakening!
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April 20th 06, 08:27 AM
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That damned organized medicine
Jan Drew wrote:
"Jeff" wrote in message ink.net... wrote in message groups.com... http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/...n1513208.shtml How preposterous of organized medicine to claim it is saving lives. They are either (1) misrepresenting the facts, (2) lying, (3) covering something up, (4) have a conflict of interest, or (5) all of the above. Shame on big pharma and big medicine. We need a congressional inquiry - can someone call Dan Burton? About 1/2 the people with cancer are cured, (unless their tumors or polyps are removed before they become cancerous). And around 75% of kids with cancer are cured. People who have heart disease get better treatment than ever before. Vaccines save thousands of kids from dying from infectious disease each year. People who are in serious car crashes or get shot are more likely to recover than ever before. Diabetics get better treatment (although paying for it is an issue). People with AIDS and HIV, diabetes, cystic fibrosis and other diseases live longer and healthier lives than ever before. ziggittes, please get a clue. jeff No, Jeff, you get a clue and think, if possible... People are living longer, that does not mean healthier, it means more people in nursing homes, more people with Alzheimer's. It means SS in going to stop. It means we do not have enough working force to support to take care of the elderly. It means all kinds of economically problems. Go visit a nursing home, Jeff and ziggittes and get a REAL awakening! See Jan Drew advocating denying medical services to the elderly so that they die and do not burden the economy anymore. So nice of Jan to think of the elderly not as people, but as economically (sic) problems. Jan, tell me, faced with this problem of so many expensive old people, WWJD? Smite them all?
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April 20th 06, 09:05 AM
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That damned organized medicine
"Jan Drew" wrote in message ... People are living longer, that does not mean healthier, it means more people in nursing homes, more people with Alzheimer's. It means SS in going to stop. It means we do not have enough working force to support to take care of the elderly. It means all kinds of economically problems. What are you suggesting? Euthanasia for anyone over 70?
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April 20th 06, 09:27 AM
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That damned organized medicine
wrote in message oups.com... Surely, Jeff, you did not miss my sarcasm? Vaccine-Man LOL. The shill trying to brainwash the vaccine man
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#8
April 20th 06, 09:51 AM
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That damned organized medicine
JohnDoe wrote:
Jan Drew wrote: "Jeff" wrote in message ink.net... wrote in message egroups.com... http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/...n1513208.shtml How preposterous of organized medicine to claim it is saving lives. They are either (1) misrepresenting the facts, (2) lying, (3) covering something up, (4) have a conflict of interest, or (5) all of the above. Shame on big pharma and big medicine. We need a congressional inquiry - can someone call Dan Burton? About 1/2 the people with cancer are cured, (unless their tumors or polyps are removed before they become cancerous). And around 75% of kids with cancer are cured. People who have heart disease get better treatment than ever before. Vaccines save thousands of kids from dying from infectious disease each year. People who are in serious car crashes or get shot are more likely to recover than ever before. Diabetics get better treatment (although paying for it is an issue). People with AIDS and HIV, diabetes, cystic fibrosis and other diseases live longer and healthier lives than ever before. ziggittes, please get a clue. jeff No, Jeff, you get a clue and think, if possible... People are living longer, that does not mean healthier, it means more people in nursing homes, more people with Alzheimer's. It means SS in going to stop. It means we do not have enough working force to support to take care of the elderly. It means all kinds of economically problems. Go visit a nursing home, Jeff and ziggittes and get a REAL awakening! See Jan Drew advocating denying medical services to the elderly so that they die and do not burden the economy anymore. So nice of Jan to think of the elderly not as people, but as economically (sic) problems. Jan, tell me, faced with this problem of so many expensive old people, WWJD? Smite them all? Jan wants to get them coming and going. Stop vaccination so that only really hardy kids get to grow up, then abandon them when they get old and expensive to look after. What a world she must want to live in. Hogarth would have refused to draw pictures of it. -- Peter Bowditch aa #2243 The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au Australian Skeptics http://www.skeptics.com.au To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com
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April 20th 06, 09:56 AM
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That damned organized medicine
"Peter Bowditch" wrote in message news  JohnDoe wrote: Jan Drew wrote: "Jeff" wrote in message ink.net... wrote in message legroups.com... http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/...n1513208.shtml How preposterous of organized medicine to claim it is saving lives. They are either (1) misrepresenting the facts, (2) lying, (3) covering something up, (4) have a conflict of interest, or (5) all of the above. Shame on big pharma and big medicine. We need a congressional inquiry - can someone call Dan Burton? About 1/2 the people with cancer are cured, (unless their tumors or polyps are removed before they become cancerous). And around 75% of kids with cancer are cured. People who have heart disease get better treatment than ever before. Vaccines save thousands of kids from dying from infectious disease each year. People who are in serious car crashes or get shot are more likely to recover than ever before. Diabetics get better treatment (although paying for it is an issue). People with AIDS and HIV, diabetes, cystic fibrosis and other diseases live longer and healthier lives than ever before. ziggittes, please get a clue. jeff No, Jeff, you get a clue and think, if possible... People are living longer, that does not mean healthier, it means more people in nursing homes, more people with Alzheimer's. It means SS in going to stop. It means we do not have enough working force to support to take care of the elderly. It means all kinds of economically problems. Go visit a nursing home, Jeff and ziggittes and get a REAL awakening! See Jan Drew advocating denying medical services to the elderly so that they die and do not burden the economy anymore. So nice of Jan to think of the elderly not as people, but as economically (sic) problems. Jan, tell me, faced with this problem of so many expensive old people, WWJD? Smite them all? Jan wants to get them coming and going. Stop vaccination so that only really hardy kids get to grow up, then abandon them when they get old and expensive to look after. What a world she must want to live in. Hogarth would have refused to draw pictures of it. Peter, intellectual referrences such as your mention of Hogarth are belittling of Jan. Don't you know that it is always wrong to belittle? ;o) Rich
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April 20th 06, 11:07 AM
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That damned organized medicine
Rich wrote: "Peter Bowditch" wrote in message news JohnDoe wrote: Jan Drew wrote: "Jeff" wrote in message ink.net... wrote in message legroups.com... http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/...n1513208.shtml How preposterous of organized medicine to claim it is saving lives. They are either (1) misrepresenting the facts, (2) lying, (3) covering something up, (4) have a conflict of interest, or (5) all of the above. Shame on big pharma and big medicine. We need a congressional inquiry - can someone call Dan Burton? About 1/2 the people with cancer are cured, (unless their tumors or polyps are removed before they become cancerous). And around 75% of kids with cancer are cured. People who have heart disease get better treatment than ever before. Vaccines save thousands of kids from dying from infectious disease each year. People who are in serious car crashes or get shot are more likely to recover than ever before. Diabetics get better treatment (although paying for it is an issue). People with AIDS and HIV, diabetes, cystic fibrosis and other diseases live longer and healthier lives than ever before. ziggittes, please get a clue. jeff No, Jeff, you get a clue and think, if possible... People are living longer, that does not mean healthier, it means more people in nursing homes, more people with Alzheimer's. It means SS in going to stop. It means we do not have enough working force to support to take care of the elderly. It means all kinds of economically problems. Go visit a nursing home, Jeff and ziggittes and get a REAL awakening! See Jan Drew advocating denying medical services to the elderly so that they die and do not burden the economy anymore. So nice of Jan to think of the elderly not as people, but as economically (sic) problems. Jan, tell me, faced with this problem of so many expensive old people, WWJD? Smite them all? Jan wants to get them coming and going. Stop vaccination so that only really hardy kids get to grow up, then abandon them when they get old and expensive to look after. What a world she must want to live in. Hogarth would have refused to draw pictures of it. Peter, intellectual referrences such as your mention of Hogarth are belittling of Jan. Don't you know that it is always wrong to belittle? Unless your name is Jan. I think that Hieronymus Bosch would have been the man for the job. Cathy ;o) Rich
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