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Old July 25th 06, 05:04 AM posted to alt.support.attn-deficit,misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med
Jan Drew
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Default Truth: Hep-B


Truth is parents are not given a choice, it is now standard procedure that
all
new all new born babies have the hep-B shot, no questions asked.

http://www.mercola.com/2002/jan/23/h...is_vaccine.htm


Warning: New Hepatitis Vaccine Recs Can Devastate Newborn's Health


The newly released 2002 immunization schedule encourages the routine use of
hepatitis B vaccine for all infants before hospital discharge to


Safeguard against maternal hepatitis B testing errors and test reporting
failures


Protect neonates discharged to households in which hepatitis B chronic
carriers
other than the mother may reside


Enhance the completion of the childhood immunization series
The annual "Recommended Childhood Immunization Schedule" of the American
Academy of Pediatrics (AAP), the Advisory Committee on Immunization
Practices
(ACIP) of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), and the
American Academy of Family Physicians (AAFP) is issued in January of each
year.


Pediatrics Vol. 109 No. 1 January 2002, pp. 162


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DR. MERCOLA'S COMMENT:


Folks I am outraged. We need to take action now. These recommendations are
inexcusable.


There is no possible logical recommendation for this action. All of these
arguments are fatally flawed.


If you are new to the site these may sound like lunatic ramblings of some
quack, but before you come to that, or a similar conclusion, I challenge you
to
examine the facts.


The central fact, and the one that helps to explain these insane
recommendations, is that the maker of the hepatitis B vaccine, Merck, makes
about $1 billion a year from vaccine sales.


A billion dollars a year goes a long way toward influencing public policy.


Who is Behind This?


The group that is pushing this through is called The Hepatitis B coalition.
Part of the Immunization Action Coalition, this group was started by a
$750,000
grant from the CDC. It is supported by the World Health Organization, World
Bank, Rockefeller Foundation and ongoing funding from Smith-Kline, Merck,
Aventis and Johnson & Johnson.


Let us not forget that it has been less than three years since the federal
government asked the drug companies to take mercury out of this vaccine, and
they still haven't complied.


I have seen many dozens of children who were given this vaccine on the first
day of life and subsequently developed autism. Others, like Michael Belkin's
daughter, weren't as lucky and died immediately after the vaccine.


Michael is a successful Wall Street Financial analyst with his own company,
and
has testified to Congress on this issue and regularly forwards news health
stories to me.


Well in the single dose hepatitis B vials, the drug companies have replaced
the
mercury with aluminum, which is another potent neurotoxin that has been
associated with Alzheimer's. But who knows what damage it will do to the
immature central nervous system of a one-day old infant.


The multi dose hepatitis B vials still contain mercury.


Folks, hepatitis B is about as difficult to catch as AIDS. Namely, you
nearly
always need to have blood or sexual contact of some sort. That is why the
main
risk factors are IV drug abusers and those who engage in sex with multiple
partners.


Is Hepatitis Vaccine Safe?


The Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) was developed by the
government to report vaccine reactions. Many experts believe that only 10%
of
the adverse reactions are reported though as reporting is not mandated by
law.


Even with only 10% of the problems being reported there were nearly 25,000
VAERS hepatitis B reports from July 1990 to October 31, 1998, showing 439
deaths and 9673 serious reactions involving emergency room visits,
hospitalization, disablement or death.


The presence of findings such as brain edema in healthy infants who die very
soon after receiving hepatitis B vaccine is profoundly disturbing,
especially
in view of the frequency of neurologic symptoms in the VAERS.


Does this make any sense?


Is Hepatitis B Vaccine Effective in Newborns?


Vaccine derived immunity is thought to be short lived. Between 30-50% of
vaccinated individuals lose their antibiodies within 7 years.


Up to 60% of persons who initially respond will lose detectable antibodies
within 12 years.. So that means that these vaccines will provide little to
no
protection to the real risks of acquiring hepatitis B, promiscuous sexual
behavior and IV drug abuse.


Does this make any sense?


How Many Children Are Hurt or Helped By Hepatitis B Vaccine?


Hepatitis B is a rare, mainly blood-transmitted disease. In 1996 only 54
cases
of the disease were reported to the CDC in the 0-1 age group. There were 3.9
million births that year, so the observed incidence of hepatitis B in the
0-1
age group was just 0.001%. In the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System
(VAERS), there were 1,080 total reports of adverse reactions from hepatitis
B
vaccine in 1996 in the 0-1 age group, with 47 deaths reported.


Let us put this in simpler terms. For every child with hepatitis B there
were
20 that were reported to have severe complications. Let us also remember
that
only 10% of the reactions are reported to VAERS, so this means:


Traditional medicine is harming 200 children to protect one from hepatitis
B.
  #2  
Old July 25th 06, 05:17 AM posted to alt.support.attn-deficit,misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med
Mark
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Default Truth: Hep-B

Jan Drew wrote:
Truth is parents are not given a choice, it is now standard procedure that
all
new all new born babies have the hep-B shot, no questions asked.



Hooey! Consent is required before the first dose of Hep B is given.
Written, signed consent. Again, Jan Drew, you lied.

Mark, MD

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Old July 25th 06, 06:42 AM posted to alt.support.attn-deficit,misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med
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Mark wrote:
Jan Drew wrote:
Truth is parents are not given a choice, it is now standard procedure that
all
new all new born babies have the hep-B shot, no questions asked.



Hooey! Consent is required before the first dose of Hep B is given.
Written, signed consent. Again, Jan Drew, you lied.

Mark, MD


I wish somebody had told me that as we have to get out HBsAg testing
out within 12 hours of delivery with mothers who have no documented
test on file as those without no prenatal care testing. If we don't
have testing done in time or a mother is HBsAG positive then the
vaccine is recommended.

Hopefully in the future a vaccine for HCV will be developed and add to
the complaints of these people. There is an epidemic of HCV compared to
HBV because of the vaccine and decreased incidence of HBV with the
complications of chronic hepatitis, cirrhosis and hepatic carcinoma.

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Old July 25th 06, 08:13 AM posted to alt.support.attn-deficit,misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med
Jan Drew
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"Mark" wrote in message
oups.com...
Jan Drew wrote:
Truth is parents are not given a choice, it is now standard procedure
that
all
new all new born babies have the hep-B shot, no questions asked.



Hooey! Consent is required before the first dose of Hep B is given.
Written, signed consent. Again, Jan Drew, you lied.

Mark, MD


You wish.

Actually, that was posted:

Aug 11 2003

And....

http://groups.google.com/group/misc....284cf38?hl=en&

Jul 9 2004

It is now standard proceedure to give babies the first shot withn 12 hours
of
birth, no questions asked.


http://digestive.niddk.nih.gov/ddise...b_ez/index.htm


The hepatitis B vaccine is given through three shots. All babies should get
the
vaccine. Infants get the first shot within 12 hours after birth. They get
the
second shot at age 1 to 2 months and the third shot between ages 6 and 18
months.


http://groups.google.com/group/misc....541ca05?hl=en&

Mon, Jun 17 2002

My granddraughter was given a Hep B shot,,,,,,,,and NO QUESTIONS WERE
ASKED!!!!




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Old July 25th 06, 09:29 AM posted to alt.support.attn-deficit,misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med
Robert1
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Default Truth: Hep-B


Jan Drew wrote:

It is now standard proceedure to give babies the first shot withn 12 hours
of
birth, no questions asked.


That is not correct. It is not standard practice and that is why
testing is now presently required as I stated above. It has been
recommended that it be changed to include all babies and that is not
standard right now.

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Old July 25th 06, 12:31 PM posted to alt.support.attn-deficit,misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med
Jeff
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Default Truth: Hep-B


"Jan Drew" wrote in message
y.net...

Truth is parents are not given a choice, it is now standard procedure that
all
new all new born babies have the hep-B shot, no questions asked.

http://www.mercola.com/2002/jan/23/h...is_vaccine.htm


A parent may refuse to have any vaccine given to a child. There is no legal
requirement that any vaccine be given. And many states have religious
exemptions from their requirements for vaccination before school.

garbage deleted

jeff


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Old July 25th 06, 05:54 PM posted to alt.support.attn-deficit,misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med
Jan Drew
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Default Truth: Hep-B


"Robert1" wrote in message
oups.com...

Jan Drew wrote:

It is now standard proceedure to give babies the first shot withn 12
hours
of
birth, no questions asked.


That is not correct. It is not standard practice and that is why
testing is now presently required as I stated above. It has been
recommended that it be changed to include all babies and that is not
standard right now.


Why do you think I posted the dates??





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Old July 25th 06, 06:13 PM posted to alt.support.attn-deficit,misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med
Jason Johnson
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In article .com, "Mark"
wrote:

Jan Drew wrote:
Truth is parents are not given a choice, it is now standard procedure that
all
new all new born babies have the hep-B shot, no questions asked.



Hooey! Consent is required before the first dose of Hep B is given.
Written, signed consent. Again, Jan Drew, you lied.

Mark, MD

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Mark,
It's my GUESS that the majority of parents o new born babies just sign off
the forms without reading them and do whatever their doctors or medical
staff advises them to do. The end result is that most all babies receive
the Hep-B vaccine. If anyone knows the percentage of newborn babies that
receive the Hep-B vaccine, please post that percentage. I have only been
in a hospital one time and recall that I had to sign lots of forms and did
not bother to read all of the information on every form.
Jason
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Old July 25th 06, 06:13 PM posted to alt.support.attn-deficit,misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med
Jan Drew
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Default Truth: Hep-B


"Jeff" wrote in message
ink.net...

Jeff has been asked....Prove you are a kidsdoc.

He has NOT answered. Go figure

"Jan Drew" wrote in message
y.net...

Truth is parents are not given a choice, it is now standard procedure
that all
new all new born babies have the hep-B shot, no questions asked.

http://www.mercola.com/2002/jan/23/h...is_vaccine.htm


A parent may refuse to have any vaccine given to a child. There is no
legal requirement that any vaccine be given. And many states have
religious exemptions from their requirements for vaccination before
school.

garbage deleted

jeff


It is noted, you did not address any consent form, back in the following
years.

Parts of Not garbage Restored:

The newly released 2002 immunization schedule encourages the routine use of
hepatitis B vaccine for all infants before hospital discharge to

Iatrogenic exposure to mercury after hepatitis B vaccination in preterm
infants.


Stajich GV, Lopez GP, Harry SW, Sexson WR.


Mercer University, Southern School of Pharmacy, Atlanta, Georgia 30341, USA.


Thimerosal, a derivative of mercury, is used as a preservative in hepatitis
B
vaccines. We measured total mercury levels before and after the
administration
of this vaccine in 15 preterm and 5 term infants. Comparison of pre- and
post-vaccination mercury levels showed a significant increase in both
preterm
and term infants after vaccination. Additionally, post-vaccination mercury
levels were significantly higher in preterm infants as compared with term
infants. Because mercury is known to be a potential neurotoxin to infants,
further study of its pharmacodynamics is warranted.


Scientific Review of Vaccine Safety Datalink Information By The US
Centre for Disease Control, Simpsonwood Retreat Center, Norcross,
Georgia, June 7th-8th 2000.
This meeting was convened by the US CDC to discuss the findings of Dr.
Verstraeten in relation to the positive statistical association
between thiomersal-containing vaccines and neurodevelopmental
disorders (thiomersal is a mercury-based preservative that has been
extensively used in the UK and US, and elsewhere).
The confidential version of the study reviewed at this meeting clearly
demonstrated that an exposure to more than 62.5 micrograms of mercury
within the first three months of life significantly increased a
child's risk of developing autism. Specifically, the study found a
2.48 times increased risk of autism.
In the US, courts of law have held that a relative increased risk of
2.0 or higher is sufficient to substantiate that a given exposure
causes disease (in the case of Cook v. United States, 545 F. Supp.
306, at 308, Northern District, California, 1982, the Court stated
that "in a vaccine case, a relative risk greater than 2.0 establishes
that there is greater than a 50% chance that the injury was caused by
the vaccine").
The key findings of the Vaccine Safety Datalink analysis were that
there was a statistically significant association between:
A cumulative exposure to thiomersal-containing vaccines at 2 months of
age and unspecified developmental delay
A cumulative exposure at three months of age and tics
A cumulative exposure at six months of age and attention deficit
disorder
A cumulative exposure at 1, 3 and 6 months of age and language and
speech delay
A cumulative exposure at 1, 3 and 6 months of age and
neurodevelopmental delays in general
The report noted that "the consultants were unanimous in their opinion
that further investigations should be pursued with a degree of
urgency".
These are some extracted comments from some of the key participants:
Dr. Weil: "There are just a host of neurodevelopmental data that would
suggest that we've got a serious problem"
Dr. Verstraeten: "We have found statistically significant
relationships between the exposures and outcomes for these different
exposures and outcomes. First, for two months of age, an unspecified
developmental delay which has its own specific ICD9 code. Exposure at
three months of age, Tics. Exposure at six months of age, an attention
deficit disorder. Exposure at one, three and six months of age, the
entire category of neurodevelopmental delays, which includes all of
these plus a number of other disorders."
"Now for speech delays, which is the largest single disorder in this
category of neurologic delays. The results are suggestive of a trend
with a small dip. The overall test for trend is highly statically
significant above one".
"After excluding this speech group, the trend is also apparent in this
group (developmental delays, less those with speech delays) and the
test for trend is also significant for this category excluding
speech".
Dr. Davis: "In terms of a search for pre-disposing factors.....serious
and chronic otitis media by history, being mentioned by the
pediatrician or the specialist, was present 38% of the time". (US
parents' note: doesn't this sound familiar to all of you parents with
autistic children?)
Dr. Johnson: "This association leads me to favour a recommendation
that infants up to two years old not be immunised with
thiomersal-containing vaccines if suitable alternative preparations
are available......there are probably implications for this
internationally".
Congress also ordered the Institute of Medicine (IoM) to investigate
the autism/MMR link, or identify another cause(s). The IoM is a
division of the National Academy of Sciences, whose members serve as
advisers to Congress. The IoM met in 2001, and also looked at eight
other vaccine-related safety concerns.

Does this make any sense?

How Many Safety Studies Have Been Done On Hepatitis B Vaccine?

None.

A manufacturer's representative was asked in a 1997 Illinois Board of Health
hearing to show evidence that the hepatitis B vaccine is safe for a 1-day
old infant. The representative stated:

"We have none. Our studies were done on 5- and 10-year-olds."

-- The Congressional Quarterly, August 25, 2000, pg. 647


[all of the links have disappeared,,what a surprise...NOT].

http://64.41.99.118/vran/vaccines/he...accine_hep.htm

VACCINES HEPATITIS-B
HEP-B VACCINE, an UNJUSTIFIED HEALTH HAZARD


Across Canada each year, thousands of school children are lined up and
injected
with hepatitis B vaccine. Parents are not adequately informed of the risks
associated with the vaccine nor are they told that children in Canada have
an
extremely low risk of contracting the disease. Hepatitis B is not a common
childhood disease. The risk according to recent statistics from Health
Canada
is minute, with only 25 cases reported in 1998 in children under the age of
14
in the entire country, yet thousands of children every year are exposed to
the
hazards of the vaccine. Parents are not told that hepatitis B vaccine is
genetically engineered, that it contains thimerosal a known neurotoxin, and
that no long term follow up for adverse reactions has been done.
Pre-marketing
clinical trials lasted only 4-5 days, not long enough to determine
automimmune
reactions that can take weeks and months to emerge.


According to vaccine researcher, Dr. Bonnie Dunbar, "The pathologies that
are
common to hepatitis B virus infections are the same types of symptoms that
are
associated with both the plasma derived (old vaccine) and the new yeast
derived
recombinant hepatitis B vaccine. These include rheumatoid arthritis type
symptoms, optic neuritis, multiples sclerosis like symptoms, demyelinating
disorders and a variety of vascular disorders and chronic fatigue syndrome."
Dr. Dunbar reports that "we re finding there are 3 basic categories of
adverse
reactions. When you look at the published reports in the literature we have
a
majority of neurological type of symptoms, rheumatic/rheumatology,
autoimmune
types of symptoms and a variety of others vascular, etc."


In a resolution voting against mandatory childhood vaccines, members of the
Association of American Physicians and Surgeons stated that "children under
the
age of 14 are three times more likely to suffer adverse effects -- including
death -- following the hepatitis B vaccine than to catch the disease
itself."
While Canadian statistics are sparse on vaccine associated adverse events,
the
VAERS adverse events reporting system in the United States offers the
following
statistics. To be sure, a similar trend would be expected in Canada.


http://www.aapsonline.org/aaps/


Overall, VAERS has received a total of 17,497 reports of adverse reactions
to
the hepatitis B vaccine, reactions that occurred after people received the
vaccine alone, rather than in combination with other vaccines, during the
period between July 1, 1990 and October 21, 1998. Moreover, fully 5,983 of
these reports chronicled such serious events as hospitalizations, while 146
of
them told of deaths. VAERS, furthermore, is a passive system, not a
mandatory
one. This suggests that only a fraction of adverse events are actually
reported, a fraction estimated by FDA officials to be as low as 1% to 10%.


http://www.biospace.com/articles/111199.cfm


Until recently the vaccine was given in a three dose schedule - the first
dose
usually started in the fall at the begining of the new school term, a second
injected dose about a month later, and the third dose approximately 6 months
later. In July 2000, The National Advisory Committee on Immunization (NACI)
announced a revised schedule under the heading "The Statement on Alternate
Adolescent Schedule for Hepatitis B Vaccine", published in the Canada
Communicable Diseases Report - Vol. 26 (ACS-5), July 1, 2000. This brief
report
announces that children age 11-15 will have available a two dose schedule to
be
given in the school setting, and identifies the vaccine as Merck Frosst's
Recombivax HB, but omits pertinent product information and does not disclose
details of how the new 2 dose hepatitis B vaccine differs from the old 3
dose
vaccine. The NACI statement can be viewed online at:


http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/hpb/lcdc/publ...6sup/acs5.html


The timeline of the hepatitis B vaccine program varies from province to
province. Some provinces start injecting children in Grade 3, others start
in
grade 4, 5, 6, or 7, and high schools offer catch up campaigns for students
who
missed their shots in elementary school.


New Brunswick, and the North West Territories routinely inject newborn
infants
within hours of birth with hepatitis B vaccine, while also offering it with
the
early infant shots starting at two months. Prince Edward Island includes it
in
the infant shots and also offers it in schools. British Columbia recently
also
has added hepatitis B vaccine to its routine infant vaccination program,
starting at two months.


According to the Canadian Immunization Guide - Fifth edition (1998), " HBV
infection is usually associated with exposure to blood or infectious bodily
fluids. Common means of transmission include heterosexual and homosexual
contact, injection drug use, and perinatal transmission (mother to infant).
The
risk of transfusion-related hepatitis B is extremely low because of routine
HBsAg screening of donated blood and rejecting of donors at risk of
infection.
Infections also occur in settings of close personal contact through
unrecognized contact with infective fluids." People at high risk for getting
hepatitis B disease are intravenous drug users who share contaminated
needles,
prostitutes, prisoners, sexually promiscuous persons and babies born to
infected mothers.


Canada offers prenatal blood screening (which includes testing for hepatitis
B
infection) to all pregnant women, and in rare cases of maternal infection,
newborn infants are immeditely treated with hepatitis B immune globulin
(HBIG),
which offers immediate short term passive immunity. Immune globulin is
prepared
from pooled human plasma from selected donors wth high level of anti-HBs who
are seronegative for bloodborne infections. This screening and treatment
insures that vulnerable, at risk infants are protected from acquiring
hepatitis
B and effectively reduces their risk of becoming lifelong carriers of the
disease. The majority of adults, and older children who might rarely
contract
the disease usually recover, and develop lifelong immunity. Only a small
percentage of people who contract hepatitis B go on to become carriers of
the
disease and/or develop degenerative liver disease.


Health Canada reports "an encouraging picture of declining incidence of HBV
infection in Canada in recent years. The reasons for this apparent decline
remain speculative. A high-risk group approach to the use of hepatitis B
vaccine has been in place in Canada since 1982 (3) and prenatal screening,
at
first targeted at high-risk pregnant women and later at all pregnant women,
has
also been in place since 1982..........A downward trend for the incidence of
HBV in the early 1990s has also been reported in the United States and has
been
partly ascribed to declining transmission among injection drug users,
possibly
as a result of safer needle-using"


http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/hpb/lcdc/publ.../dr2307eb.html



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Old July 25th 06, 10:17 PM posted to alt.support.attn-deficit,misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med
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"Jan Drew" wrote:


"Robert1" wrote in message
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Jan Drew wrote:

It is now standard proceedure to give babies the first shot withn 12
hours
of
birth, no questions asked.


That is not correct. It is not standard practice and that is why
testing is now presently required as I stated above. It has been
recommended that it be changed to include all babies and that is not
standard right now.


Why do you think I posted the dates??



I'll probably regret this but I'll try anyway.

The webpage you posted says "All babies should get the
vaccine."

What part of "should" do you read to be mandatory and not just a
recommendation?

Nothing you posted ( except unverifiable anecdotes ) supports your
contention that any vaccinations are given "no questions asked".


 




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