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The feminist view of breastfeeding
Okay, first of all sweetheart you know little if anything about me. As
you can see I do not attempt to assume things about you. Rather I ask questions and look for your response that is the respectful thing to do; as opposed to assuming things. Anyways, I have heard those view points since high school as well as many others. So don't worry there is no need to educate. But I do not think that any author wrote in vain. If their purpose was to convert people into believing radical idea's then maybe it was. But I seriously, don't believe that would be a clever form of persuasion so I don't believe conversions were the intentions. elizabeth wrote: Mitchell Holman wrote: wrote in oups.com: I really am curious why you are so frustrated with something that is an option in the first place. Why do you not respect a womans rights Women really don't like other women. I loathe women who make it impossible for women to be treated like human beings. By becoming a broodsow and insisting that this is the way women should be, she is pushing the same ideas that Magda Goebbels did, that motherhood is what women are for, and in a time of overpopulation, the idea that half the population should stay home and breed more resource suckers is absolute insanity, unless you like wars, plagues, and famines. |
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Okay, but the post I replied to stated that they were not able to bare
children specifically. Kent wrote: wrote in message oups.com... You say words like "moo" "crotch-fruit" and well alot more that are hateful. I don't wish to change your point of view but it does seem strange that you would go out of your way to make a post like this in group that is about mothers supporting each other in their chosen child raising efforts. That's because some lamebrain crossposted it into a childfree group (fixed). Are you not "crotch-fruit" yourselve? Where [sic] your parents not breeders? Do you despise your self? Respectivly, does all this hatred stem from the fact that you are not able to bare [sic] children? ChildFREE doesn't mean "not able to bear children", it means "don't WANT to". Childfree doesn't mean infertile (though many childfree people get voluntarily sterilized). Just to let you know if you ever one day feel the want to have a child then remember this. Though you may not be able to have a little "crotch-fruit" there are plenty out there who are searching for parents to care for them. My God says that the childless are blessed because they have the ability to mother as many children or as few as they choose. |
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Phyl wrote: elizabeth wrote: Mitchell Holman wrote: "elizabeth" wrote in news:1154890987.827732.58720 snip My mother had her children before legal contraception and abortion, when there were fewer than 3 billion people on the planet, with none of the tax giveaways and freebies we give people now who breed children they can't or won't support. and insisting that this is the way women should be, It is the some women CHOOSE to be. Well, it's a stupid CHOICE, because women who choose to stay home and breed kids end up homeless and alone quite a bit. I chose to stay home and have children, and I went back to work after they were in school. My girls are terrific, and I enjoy them immensely, as does my husband. Whoopee for YOU! So what? Why do you feel a need to trumpet your so-called happiness? You have a lot of issues, it sounds like, and a great deal of bitterness. And that would be more projection on your part. If I had wanted children, I would have had them. I had to fight *not* to have children. I can remember when abortion was illegal, and women had to lie to get contraception. You don't want to have children? Great. I did? Great. Live and let live. Trouble is, because of breedersows like YOU, YOUR children will have to sell their asses for support, because we have too many people and too few jobs. You know what it's like for girls in the former soviet union? That's better than the future YOUR daughters will face. Because of YOUR choices, the Commons is overgrazed and everyone suffers. BTW, if you want to get a glimpse of your future, check out a women's shelter. Almost all the middle aged and elderly women in shelters have children. Many of them work, or did work. It's just that there isn't much of a future being a breeder, because you make yourself obsolete by middle age, and there is no pension plans. Depending on the kindness of men is why most women end up on the streets. One definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over, expecting a different result. After a couple of generations of "displaced homemakers" women like you look truly insane. Why do you feel a need to call me bitter? Seems to me that indicates that maybe you're not as happy with your choices as you want to make yourself believe. |
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elizabeth wrote:
BTW, if you want to get a glimpse of your future, check out a women's shelter. Almost all the middle aged and elderly women in shelters have children. Many of them work, or did work. It's just that there isn't much of a future being a breeder, because you make yourself obsolete by middle age, and there is no pension plans. Depending on the kindness of men is why most women end up on the streets. I also think that another good way for breeders to look at their future is to visit a rest home and ask the residents there how often their children come to see them. Breeders of both genders seem to think that their kids will always love them unconditionally and will "take care of them when they're old." |
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In article .com,
wrote: Ahh......I can understand that, completely. I think it is sad though. We do not have to look at each other like that. I think we should stick together and respect and learn from our differences. You say words like "moo" "crotch-fruit" and well alot more that are hateful. I don't wish to change your point of view but it does seem strange that you would go out of your way to make a post like this in group that is about mothers supporting each other in their chosen child raising efforts. Are you not "crotch-fruit" yourselve? Where your parents not breeders? Over in clc, they note that it is never valid to cross post between clc and clc++, since they are different languages. I think the same can be said for cross-posting between misc.kids.* and alt.support.childfree. I'm sure that there are more than 2 universally invalid newgroup combinations in the above list... |
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That has to be a proven theroy.
Kenny McCormack wrote: In article .com, wrote: Ahh......I can understand that, completely. I think it is sad though. We do not have to look at each other like that. I think we should stick together and respect and learn from our differences. You say words like "moo" "crotch-fruit" and well alot more that are hateful. I don't wish to change your point of view but it does seem strange that you would go out of your way to make a post like this in group that is about mothers supporting each other in their chosen child raising efforts. Are you not "crotch-fruit" yourselve? Where your parents not breeders? Over in clc, they note that it is never valid to cross post between clc and clc++, since they are different languages. I think the same can be said for cross-posting between misc.kids.* and alt.support.childfree. I'm sure that there are more than 2 universally invalid newgroup combinations in the above list... |
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"elizabeth" wrote in news:1154893466.406728.285740
@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com: Mitchell Holman wrote: "elizabeth" wrote in news:1154890987.827732.58720 @h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com: snip option in the first place. Why do you not respect a womans rights Women really don't like other women. There you pretended to speak for women, and you're not one. Typical male, you have to tell us how we feel. What an asshole you are. I loathe women who make it impossible for women to be treated like human beings. Make it impossible - how? By selling out to the religious and economic pressures to overbreed when we can't support those here now. By becoming a broodsow Is that what you called YOUR mother? My mother had her children before legal contraception and abortion, when there were fewer than 3 billion people on the planet, with none of the tax giveaways and freebies we give people now who breed children they can't or won't support. and insisting that this is the way women should be, It is the some women CHOOSE to be. Well, it's a stupid CHOICE, because women who choose to stay home and breed kids end up homeless and alone quite a bit. It's a loser's game, where you have no market value at all. In a capitalist society, such women are beggars. Whereas in a non-capitalist society they are....? Because it's too expensive to raise children now The mothers here seem to disagree with you. (because we've "overgrazed our range" and it takes more work to provide resources) taxpayers are expected to pay for more and more of the costs involved in raising children. So? The future of our country is a good investment. Because so many men CHOOSE to be deadbeats and not support their children, we have more foster kids than ever, and less children being supported by their fathers. So you hate mothers AND fathers. That means the taxpayers pay for more of the parent's responsibilities. I'm also ****ing tired of all the crime and mess children create, like how it costs SF at least 30 million a year just for graffitti clean up, we have gangrapists in middle schools, and shootings at high schools are common. All the breeders of those thugs CHOSE to have a child. Perhaps you would refer no one to have any children anywhere. That's going to make it tough to find people to care for you in your dotage. she is pushing the same ideas that Magda Goebbels did, that motherhood is what women are for, and in a time of overpopulation, the idea that half the population should stay home and breed more resource suckers is absolute insanity, unless you like wars, plagues, and famines. Are all children "resource suckers"? Now that we live in a world where we can't house, employ, and feed those here now, they are. How very empathetic of you. It must be painful to live with that much hate. It's not my fault that overpopulation is destroying YOUR children's futures. What overpopulation? There are whole towns in certain countries that have died because no one is making babies. Every hear of negative popultion growth? Look it up. |
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Kari wrote in news:OwsBg.14758$gU4.1595@trnddc07:
elizabeth wrote: BTW, if you want to get a glimpse of your future, check out a women's shelter. Almost all the middle aged and elderly women in shelters have children. Many of them work, or did work. It's just that there isn't much of a future being a breeder, because you make yourself obsolete by middle age, and there is no pension plans. Depending on the kindness of men is why most women end up on the streets. I also think that another good way for breeders to look at their future is to visit a rest home and ask the residents there how often their children come to see them. Breeders of both genders seem to think that their kids will always love them unconditionally and will "take care of them when they're old." It is nice when children visit their parents but not mandatory. I don't require that of my children, nor did I impose that on them as a condition of being born. |
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