Child Support Fiasco

I live in Western New York. My ex-wife has filed for disability and
is claiming she cannot work (not for the first time). She is taking
me to court (again), petitioning that she should not have to pay child
support. On visitation weekends she spends exorbitant sums of money
on carnivals, movies, and gifts. She lives in a beautiful home on a
large wooded lot with a pond, two new cars, etc,etc.

Do I have any recourse when she clearly has means (even thought they
may be her husbands)?

Incidentally, her last payment was $8.33. So I will naturally be
representing myself in court.

Any help (specifically where I might look for legal information or
precedent) would be greatly appreciated.

GoodDad

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I live in Western New York. My ex-wife has filed for disability and
is claiming she cannot work (not for the first time). She is taking
me to court (again), petitioning that she should not have to pay child
support. On visitation weekends she spends exorbitant sums of money
on carnivals, movies, and gifts. She lives in a beautiful home on a
large wooded lot with a pond, two new cars, etc,etc.

Do I have any recourse when she clearly has means (even thought they
may be her husbands)?
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Her husband's income/means are irrelevant--as they should be. Surely you
aren't suggesting that
the income of subsequent spouses should be used to calculate child support
for children that are
not his/hers? Further, if she's spending all that money on the kids when
they are with her, what's
your beef? It sounds like you think she owes you a lifestyle based on her
husband's income.

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I live in Western New York. My ex-wife has filed for disability and
is claiming she cannot work (not for the first time). She is taking
me to court (again), petitioning that she should not have to pay child
support. On visitation weekends she spends exorbitant sums of money
on carnivals, movies, and gifts. She lives in a beautiful home on a
large wooded lot with a pond, two new cars, etc,etc.

Do I have any recourse when she clearly has means (even thought they
may be her husbands)?

Incidentally, her last payment was $8.33. So I will naturally be
representing myself in court.

Any help (specifically where I might look for legal information or
precedent) would be greatly appreciated.

Determine the cause of the disability. If it has anything remotely
connected to her being a fit parent, ask the court to determine if her
disability interferes with her ability to work does it also interfere with
her ability to be an effective parent. If the court says she can't work
because of her disability, ask the court to terminate her visitation rights
because the impact of the disability similarly affects her ability to
parent. Push at the same time to get her income imputed based on her skills
and your local economic conditions for employment.

"Bob Whiteside" wrote in message
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wrote in message
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I live in Western New York. My ex-wife has filed for disability and
is claiming she cannot work (not for the first time). She is taking
me to court (again), petitioning that she should not have to pay child
support. On visitation weekends she spends exorbitant sums of money
on carnivals, movies, and gifts. She lives in a beautiful home on a
large wooded lot with a pond, two new cars, etc,etc.

Do I have any recourse when she clearly has means (even thought they
may be her husbands)?

Incidentally, her last payment was $8.33. So I will naturally be
representing myself in court.

Any help (specifically where I might look for legal information or
precedent) would be greatly appreciated.

Determine the cause of the disability. If it has anything remotely
connected to her being a fit parent, ask the court to determine if her
disability interferes with her ability to work does it also interfere with
her ability to be an effective parent.
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Get a grip, Bob.

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Get a grip, Bob.

LOL! Thanks Gini...I don't get to laugh here very often.

Don

"Gini" wrote in

Determine the cause of the disability. If it has anything remotely
connected to her being a fit parent, ask the court to determine if her
disability interferes with her ability to work does it also interfere
with her ability to be an effective parent.
==
Get a grip, Bob.


The more women that are effected by this dorky system, the better!

"Gini" wrote in message
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"Bob Whiteside" wrote in message
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I live in Western New York. My ex-wife has filed for disability and
is claiming she cannot work (not for the first time). She is taking
me to court (again), petitioning that she should not have to pay child
support. On visitation weekends she spends exorbitant sums of money
on carnivals, movies, and gifts. She lives in a beautiful home on a
large wooded lot with a pond, two new cars, etc,etc.

Do I have any recourse when she clearly has means (even thought they
may be her husbands)?

Incidentally, her last payment was $8.33. So I will naturally be
representing myself in court.

Any help (specifically where I might look for legal information or
precedent) would be greatly appreciated.

Determine the cause of the disability. If it has anything remotely
connected to her being a fit parent, ask the court to determine if her
disability interferes with her ability to work does it also interfere
with her ability to be an effective parent.
==
Get a grip, Bob.

I'm not sure I understand your comment.

My thoughts are - if CP women on welfare are not required to pay CS, and CP
women on disability are not required to pay CS, and NCP women on disability
are not required to pay CS, the only groups of women left to pay CS are
either the incarcerated (who can't pay), the NCP women who are marginal
members of society who couldn't get custody, or married women who don't
work.

I am against any plan that allows married women who don't work to get a pass
(for whatever reason) and skate on paying CS.

"Bob Whiteside" wrote

"Gini" wrote in message
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"Bob Whiteside" wrote in message
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wrote in message
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I live in Western New York. My ex-wife has filed for disability and
is claiming she cannot work (not for the first time). She is taking
me to court (again), petitioning that she should not have to pay child
support. On visitation weekends she spends exorbitant sums of money
on carnivals, movies, and gifts. She lives in a beautiful home on a
large wooded lot with a pond, two new cars, etc,etc.

Do I have any recourse when she clearly has means (even thought they
may be her husbands)?

Incidentally, her last payment was $8.33. So I will naturally be
representing myself in court.

Any help (specifically where I might look for legal information or
precedent) would be greatly appreciated.

Determine the cause of the disability. If it has anything remotely
connected to her being a fit parent, ask the court to determine if her
disability interferes with her ability to work does it also interfere
with her ability to be an effective parent.
==
Get a grip, Bob.

I'm not sure I understand your comment.
......................

I am against any plan that allows married women who don't work to get a
pass (for whatever reason) and skate on paying CS.
==
My "get a grip" was for the idea of parental fitness based on disability.
Did you overlook the part where he wants an increase in CS because of the
current husband's income? Huh? That's outrageous and you would agree as well
if the CP were the mother wanting the dad to pay more based on his current
wife's income.
And, he "complains" that the mom spends too much money on the kids when
they're with her.
Sure the court can impute income for the mom but certainly not on the basis
of her husband's income.
C'mon, guys--You're giving this CP a pass!

"Gini" wrote in message
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"Bob Whiteside" wrote

"Gini" wrote in message
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"Bob Whiteside" wrote in message
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wrote in message
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I live in Western New York. My ex-wife has filed for disability and
is claiming she cannot work (not for the first time). She is taking
me to court (again), petitioning that she should not have to pay child
support. On visitation weekends she spends exorbitant sums of money
on carnivals, movies, and gifts. She lives in a beautiful home on a
large wooded lot with a pond, two new cars, etc,etc.

Do I have any recourse when she clearly has means (even thought they
may be her husbands)?

Incidentally, her last payment was $8.33. So I will naturally be
representing myself in court.

Any help (specifically where I might look for legal information or
precedent) would be greatly appreciated.

Determine the cause of the disability. If it has anything remotely
connected to her being a fit parent, ask the court to determine if her
disability interferes with her ability to work does it also interfere
with her ability to be an effective parent.
==
Get a grip, Bob.

I'm not sure I understand your comment.
.....................

I am against any plan that allows married women who don't work to get a
pass (for whatever reason) and skate on paying CS.
==
My "get a grip" was for the idea of parental fitness based on disability.
Did you overlook the part where he wants an increase in CS because of the
current husband's income? Huh? That's outrageous and you would agree as
well
if the CP were the mother wanting the dad to pay more based on his current
wife's income.
And, he "complains" that the mom spends too much money on the kids when
they're with her.
Sure the court can impute income for the mom but certainly not on the
basis of her husband's income.
C'mon, guys--You're giving this CP a pass!

Here is my point with more detail. Let's say her "disability" is
alcoholism, drug addiction, or some form of mental illness. Any of those
disability determination factors that could make her exempt from paying CS
can also be used to challenge her ability to parent.

I understood the OP to be saying his former wife is taking him to court to
reduce her current CS obligation to zero because she now has a disability
and cannot work. The OP did comment on her lifestyle with her new husband
but the issue he raised was about her wanting her portion of CS to be zero.

"Bob Whiteside" wrote

"Gini" wrote in message
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"Bob Whiteside" wrote

"Gini" wrote in message
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"Bob Whiteside" wrote in message
...

wrote in message
ups.com...
I live in Western New York. My ex-wife has filed for disability and
is claiming she cannot work (not for the first time). She is taking
me to court (again), petitioning that she should not have to pay
child
support. On visitation weekends she spends exorbitant sums of money
on carnivals, movies, and gifts. She lives in a beautiful home on a
large wooded lot with a pond, two new cars, etc,etc.

Do I have any recourse when she clearly has means (even thought they
may be her husbands)?

Incidentally, her last payment was $8.33. So I will naturally be
representing myself in court.

Any help (specifically where I might look for legal information or
precedent) would be greatly appreciated.

Determine the cause of the disability. If it has anything remotely
connected to her being a fit parent, ask the court to determine if her
disability interferes with her ability to work does it also interfere
with her ability to be an effective parent.
==
Get a grip, Bob.

I'm not sure I understand your comment.
.....................

I am against any plan that allows married women who don't work to get a
pass (for whatever reason) and skate on paying CS.
==
My "get a grip" was for the idea of parental fitness based on disability.
Did you overlook the part where he wants an increase in CS because of the
current husband's income? Huh? That's outrageous and you would agree as
well
if the CP were the mother wanting the dad to pay more based on his
current wife's income.
And, he "complains" that the mom spends too much money on the kids when
they're with her.
Sure the court can impute income for the mom but certainly not on the
basis of her husband's income.
C'mon, guys--You're giving this CP a pass!

Here is my point with more detail. Let's say her "disability" is
alcoholism, drug addiction, or some form of mental illness. Any of those
disability determination factors that could make her exempt from paying CS
can also be used to challenge her ability to parent.
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True. Take my son--He is disabled due to bi-polar disorder. His CS has been
set
at $0. and his ex requested and received an order stipulating that his
visitation with my grandson
be in the presence of my husband. Yep. My husband, who is not a party to the
case at all and
who wasn't present at any hearings and never offered his services to monitor
my son's visitation.
My husband was mildly amused at the court's audacity :-). Anyway, my son
would never ever hurt his child and his ex
knows that. In fact, my son was the primary caregiver to his son when they
were married, but she used it against him anyway.
He is absolutely devastated that his ex took my grandson out of state and he
doesn't know where he is and he hasn't seen him in 3 years.
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I understood the OP to be saying his former wife is taking him to court to
reduce her current CS obligation to zero because she now has a disability
and cannot work. The OP did comment on her lifestyle with her new husband
but the issue he raised was about her wanting her portion of CS to be
zero.
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It will likely be so. That doesn't negate the fact that he thinks he should
be paid CS on
the basis of the new husband's income and he should be embarrassed at
complaining the
mom spends too much money on the kids when they are with her.
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