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Interesting New Research on Spanking
0:- wrote: Doan wrote: So, LaVonne, what about the non-cp alternatives? How do they compare to spanking under the same statistical analysis? I have checked the archives and CAN'T FIND them. Help me, please! ;-) In other words you don't wish to debate the information presented. How typical. 0:- Doan is either stupid or crafty. What do you think? I'll go for stupid with a bit OF crafty on the side. What he wrote above is such a hoot, unless he is ignorant enough to believe what he wrties. Hard to tell.... LaVonne Doan On Thu, 9 Feb 2006, Carlson LaVonne wrote: A ground-breaking study examined whether the normativeness of physical discipline moderates the link between mothers' use of physical discipline and children's adjustment. The sample included 336 mother-child dyads from China, India, Italy, Kenya, the Philippines, and Thailand. Results revealed that "physical discipline was less strongly associated with adverse child outcomes in conditions of greater perceived normativeness, but physical discipline was also associated with more adverse outcomes regardless of the perceived normativeness. Countries with the lowest use of physical disciplined showed the strongest association between mother's use and children's behavior problems, but in all countries, higher use of physical discipline was associated with more aggression and anxiety." (Lansford, et.al. 2005, 1234) This is interesting because culture and what is considered the norm is so often used as a justifier for physical discipline. This study clearly shows that while the adverse effects of physical disipline were less in countries where it was considered the norm, it was still associated with adverse outcomes for children, including more anxiety and aggresstion. So I ask again -- why use physical discipline when yet another study finds it to be harmful to children? LaVonne Reference: Lansford, J., Dodge, K. & Malone, P., Bacchini, D., Zelli, A., Chaudhary, N., Manke, B., Chang, L., Oburu, P., Palmerus, K., Pastorelli, C., Bombi, A., Tapanya, S., Deater-Deckard, K., & Quinn, N. (2005). Physical Discipline and Children's Adjustment: Cultural Normativeness as a Moderator. Child Development, November/December 2005. 76(6), 1234-1246. |
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Interesting New Research on Spanking
On Sun, 26 Feb 2006, Carlson LaVonne wrote:
0:- wrote: Doan wrote: So, LaVonne, what about the non-cp alternatives? How do they compare to spanking under the same statistical analysis? I have checked the archives and CAN'T FIND them. Help me, please! ;-) In other words you don't wish to debate the information presented. How typical. 0:- Doan is either stupid or crafty. What do you think? I'll go for stupid with a bit OF crafty on the side. What he wrote above is such a hoot, unless he is ignorant enough to believe what he wrties. Hard to tell.... LaVonne Hahaha! So you are still claiming that they are in the "archives", LaVonne? Your little poodle, ignoranus kane0, already admitted that no such study existed! Are you saying that he is STUPID? ;-) Doan |
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Interesting New Research on Spanking
Carlson LaVonne wrote:
0:- wrote: Doan wrote: So, LaVonne, what about the non-cp alternatives? How do they compare to spanking under the same statistical analysis? I have checked the archives and CAN'T FIND them. Help me, please! ;-) In other words you don't wish to debate the information presented. How typical. 0:- Doan is either stupid or crafty. What do you think? I'll go for stupid with a bit OF crafty on the side. What he wrote above is such a hoot, unless he is ignorant enough to believe what he wrties. Hard to tell.... LaVonne You can be sure he won't respond to the Embry study any longer. Not with real debate. Just lies about the content. There are lots of crafty folks that are stupid. Why does it have to "or?" Well, he tries to word his demands so that they are impossible to respond to. He found out how that works when I asked The Question. There are more than enough citations of various studies and research on what spanking does and what non-cp methods can do. One does not have to have a study that is a duplicate of another when one is studying two different issues for either to be valid. That's precisely why he doesn't really want to debate Embry and keeps up this dodge. It terrifies him. It's one of those he demands. Now he's finally gotten it (he didn't have it, trust me) he knows he's in trouble with his claims. "it's not about spanking," is his currect ploy...after demanding we debate it in this newsgroup when he claims he had it a couple of years back. It even has a spank count in it, but of course the observation conclusions are on the effectiveness of anything but (pun intended.) He's a noisy child, nothing more. His only real skill is annoyance and he's getting to be less effective at that. The only people that take him seriously are newbies. Kane -- "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote." - Benjamin Franklin |
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Interesting New Research on Spanking
On Sun, 26 Feb 2006, 0:- wrote:
Carlson LaVonne wrote: 0:- wrote: Doan wrote: So, LaVonne, what about the non-cp alternatives? How do they compare to spanking under the same statistical analysis? I have checked the archives and CAN'T FIND them. Help me, please! ;-) In other words you don't wish to debate the information presented. How typical. 0:- Doan is either stupid or crafty. What do you think? I'll go for stupid with a bit OF crafty on the side. What he wrote above is such a hoot, unless he is ignorant enough to believe what he wrties. Hard to tell.... LaVonne You can be sure he won't respond to the Embry study any longer. Not with real debate. Just lies about the content. The only proven liar here is YOU! ;-) AFfromdreamland |
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