The Determination of Child Custody in the USA

"Kenpangborn" wrote in message
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From: "Chris"
Newsgroups: alt.child-support

More precisely, "best interests of the child" means "what makes me feel
good", when it comes to the family kourt people.


It means "the squeaky wheel gets the oil" OR.. Those 50,000 screaming
women
outside the courthouse can have ANYTHING THEY WANT! (I can safely IGNORE
the 2
disgruntled fathers on the other side of the courthouse.)

The men's movement has had a LONG and venerated history of shooting
itself
in the head. There was a time when Television's Johnny Carson was willing
to
get involved, but the CRAZY ANTICS of a few people who were in bizarro
land
killed that idea. Then along came one of hollywood's most beloved
orchestra
leaders and composers, and there was a universal NO to allowing him to
lead the
movement and hook it up with the Hollywood money waggon because of those
who
want to be GREAT LEADERS!

I have little sympathy for men who have sat their entire life on their
hands when BAD LAWS were being created, and then WHINE when it is their
rectum
being sodomized. Or those whose egos rampage out of control. sigh The
screwing we men are getting is of our own design.

More precisely, it's of the design of the men prior to our generation; and
even then, ONLY of those who held the biggest guns!


I gave up on a movement where its members say they can't make a
protest
because they have "softball practice" or there is a "HOT BABE" at Fest
Eddies
tap they might get a piece of. If that's where your priorities are, don't
complain to me.

If self gratification is where it's at for you, I'm the wrong guy to
talk
to.

From: "Chris"
Newsgroups: alt.child-support

The
screwing we men are getting is of our own design.


More precisely, it's of the design of the men prior to our generation; and
even then, ONLY of those who held the biggest guns!

No it is both generations. Try to get men out to present a united front. The
NOW people can put thousands on the street. A recent national "million dads"
gathering had something like 27 men at it. After almost a year of recruiting
men on the net and at local meetings all over the country they could only get
27 men to attend. There were more passersby in the Washington, DC park by 20
times as the men there. If they "hold it and you don't come" what do you expect
as a result when the women have 700,000 at one of THEIR rallies???

Do you WONDER why they get whatever legislation they want and men keep getting
screwed? Maybe the women are right when they call us "DEADBEATS" when we won't
even speak out when we need to.

If softball practice, or typing to feel up some bar maid at Fast Eddie's
bar is more important than your kids, why should you expect ANY sympathy?
Because it's right? Do you believe in the Easter bunny too?

"Kenpangborn" wrote in message
...
From: "Chris"
Newsgroups: alt.child-support

The
screwing we men are getting is of our own design.


More precisely, it's of the design of the men prior to our generation;
and
even then, ONLY of those who held the biggest guns!

No it is both generations. Try to get men out to present a united front.
The
NOW people can put thousands on the street. A recent national "million
dads"
gathering had something like 27 men at it. After almost a year of
recruiting
men on the net and at local meetings all over the country they could only
get
27 men to attend. There were more passersby in the Washington, DC park by
20
times as the men there. If they "hold it and you don't come" what do you
expect
as a result when the women have 700,000 at one of THEIR rallies???

Do you WONDER why they get whatever legislation they want and men keep
getting
screwed? Maybe the women are right when they call us "DEADBEATS" when we
won't
even speak out when we need to.

Bottom line is, are you willing to DIE for the cause. Ultimately, it boils
down to those who have the biggest guns are gonna rule the roost. This takes
place in ALL generations. In this world, it's the wicked that call the
shots.


If softball practice, or typing to feel up some bar maid at Fast
Eddie's
bar is more important than your kids, why should you expect ANY sympathy?
Because it's right? Do you believe in the Easter bunny too?

(Kenpangborn) wrote in message ...
From: "Chris"
Newsgroups: alt.child-support

The
screwing we men are getting is of our own design.


More precisely, it's of the design of the men prior to our generation; and
even then, ONLY of those who held the biggest guns!

No it is both generations.

You are a proven liar. http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
You were elected "Kook of the Month"
http://www.lart.com/auk/whiners.html
You falsely claimed to have a masters degree in psychology
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=ch...aol.com&rnum=1

You use alternate aliases to shill yourself and were recently outed
with your alias

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...g.goog le.com

You do not have any credibility in any area concerning child
custody, the law, psychology, the truth, honesty, trial consulting,
fathers rights or anything between.

From: "Chris"
Newsgroups: alt.child-support

No it is both generations. Try to get men out to present a united front.

Bottom line is, are you willing to DIE for the cause.

That is a bit overly dramatic. All men need to do is take a couple hours of
the time and show up to be heard. Not to die.

Ultimately, it boils down to those who have the biggest guns are gonna rule
the roost.

That type of thinking won't get us anywhere but jail or dead. How does that
help us or or children?


This takes place in ALL generations. In this world, it's the wicked that call
the
shots.

No - this proves the old addage; "That all evil needs to succeed, is for good
men to do NOTHING!"

All evil needs is men saying that they can't attend a meeting or protest
because they have to attend softball practice. If softball is your priority, so
be it!

You don't have to die, you just need to be COUNTED.

From: (Duane Jackson)
Newsgroups: alt.child-support

You are a proven liar.

Oh Stacy, **** OFF WILL YOU?

Get a NEW hobby - - you WHACKO!

Boy.. that really socks a punch to numerous people in this group..

"Duane Jackson" wrote in message
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(Kenpangborn) wrote in message
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From: "Chris"
Newsgroups: alt.child-support

The
screwing we men are getting is of our own design.


More precisely, it's of the design of the men prior to our generation;
and
even then, ONLY of those who held the biggest guns!

No it is both generations.

You are a proven liar. http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
You were elected "Kook of the Month"
http://www.lart.com/auk/whiners.html
You falsely claimed to have a masters degree in psychology

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=ch...aol.com&rnum=1

You use alternate aliases to shill yourself and were recently outed
with your alias


http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...g.goog le.com

You do not have any credibility in any area concerning child
custody, the law, psychology, the truth, honesty, trial consulting,
fathers rights or anything between.

"Kenpangborn" wrote in message
...
From: "Chris"
Newsgroups: alt.child-support

No it is both generations. Try to get men out to present a united
front.

Bottom line is, are you willing to DIE for the cause.

That is a bit overly dramatic. All men need to do is take a couple hours
of
the time and show up to be heard. Not to die.

They may not "need" to die, but that is the ultimate destiny of those who
fight to the bitter end.


Ultimately, it boils down to those who have the biggest guns are gonna
rule
the roost.

That type of thinking won't get us anywhere but jail or dead. How does
that
help us or or children?

Quite the contrary. That type of thinking is what keeps us alive and out of
jail.



This takes place in ALL generations. In this world, it's the wicked that
call
the
shots.

No - this proves the old addage; "That all evil needs to succeed, is for
good
men to do NOTHING!"

All evil needs is men saying that they can't attend a meeting or
protest
because they have to attend softball practice. If softball is your
priority, so
be it!

You don't have to die, you just need to be COUNTED.

"Chris" wrote in message
news:KrCrb.14235$0K6.9905@fed1read06...

"Kenpangborn" wrote in message
...
From: "Chris"
Newsgroups: alt.child-support

No it is both generations. Try to get men out to present a united
front.

Bottom line is, are you willing to DIE for the cause.

That is a bit overly dramatic. All men need to do is take a couple hours
of
the time and show up to be heard. Not to die.

They may not "need" to die, but that is the ultimate destiny of those who
fight to the bitter end.

It's the ultimate destiny for all of us. This is life - no one makes it out
alive.



Ultimately, it boils down to those who have the biggest guns are gonna
rule
the roost.

That type of thinking won't get us anywhere but jail or dead. How does
that
help us or or children?

Quite the contrary. That type of thinking is what keeps us alive and out of
jail.



This takes place in ALL generations. In this world, it's the wicked that
call
the
shots.

No - this proves the old addage; "That all evil needs to succeed, is for
good
men to do NOTHING!"

All evil needs is men saying that they can't attend a meeting or
protest
because they have to attend softball practice. If softball is your
priority, so
be it!

You don't have to die, you just need to be COUNTED.

"Moon Shyne" wrote in message
...


"Chris" wrote in message
news:KrCrb.14235$0K6.9905@fed1read06...

"Kenpangborn" wrote in message
...
From: "Chris"
Newsgroups: alt.child-support

No it is both generations. Try to get men out to present a united
front.

Bottom line is, are you willing to DIE for the cause.

That is a bit overly dramatic. All men need to do is take a couple
hours
of
the time and show up to be heard. Not to die.

They may not "need" to die, but that is the ultimate destiny of those
who
fight to the bitter end.

It's the ultimate destiny for all of us. This is life - no one makes it
out
alive.

Once again, the voice of wisdom has spoken........




Ultimately, it boils down to those who have the biggest guns are
gonna
rule
the roost.

That type of thinking won't get us anywhere but jail or dead. How
does
that
help us or or children?

Quite the contrary. That type of thinking is what keeps us alive and out
of
jail.



This takes place in ALL generations. In this world, it's the wicked
that
call
the
shots.

No - this proves the old addage; "That all evil needs to succeed, is
for
good
men to do NOTHING!"

All evil needs is men saying that they can't attend a meeting or
protest
because they have to attend softball practice. If softball is your
priority, so
be it!

You don't have to die, you just need to be COUNTED.