PLEASE....ADVICE!!!!

Meleah Foreman wrote:
Sorry, obviously I am in the wrong forum. I was hoing for unbiased opinions.

LOL. If you're looking for support for misandry this is the wrong place.


My daughter is overly fair with her ex, going above and beyond what the
court has ordered. She was concerned about his flying overseas in such
troubling times....NOT keeping him away from his father.

Sounds like she's more fair than you.


Her ex hit her and
abused her....and was put in anger management by the military.

Every woman a victim. Yada yada yada. Men=bad, women=good. The story
never changes.


He is not the
greatest husband material, but is a good father. My daughter does have a
life and has met a wonderful man. I am sorry if your ex was a bitch, we are
not all that way.

You obviously are. You have no clue about me.


I was asking an opinion, not man bashing....sorry if you took it wrong.

You were man bashing, and still are. Sorry if you wanted sympathy for
misandry.

Bob




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When did we divide into sides?

"As president, I will put American government and our legal system back
on the side of women." John Kerry, misandrist Democratic candidate for
President. http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/women/


























[Bob does not advocate any illegal, seditious, or immoral acts. All
posts are for discussion, rhetorical, or humorous purposes only.]

No need to get really agistated about this situation. I think Don said it
very plainly in that being under a CS order there's really nothing he can
do except pay or go to jail...granted not really the best choice, but
that's the one we're saddled with.

If he does hold out, he'll eventually be found in contempt, and will
answer for it eventually. Even if he does or not, there's no way short of
a custody battle that he'll get the kid with him to Japan. I'm not too
familiar (yet) with visitations, but there obviously has to be something
governing across borders visits much less overseas visits.

I will actually do the one thing that you probably don't expect from
anyone here. It does seem that the mother is allowing the father to do
everything he can in maintaining a relationship with his son. That is
commendable and should be a note to everyone subjected to the CS system.
Perhaps the ex has to see it from the standpoint that the visit overseas
might just be a little too much.

But hey, if that's what he's going to want by forcing contempt on himself
- he should know exactly what's going to happen eventually. Just tell the
mother that the "free money" is going to stop temporarily and to be
prepared for that.

No need to get really agistated about this situation. I think Don said it
very plainly in that being under a CS order there's really nothing he can
do except pay or go to jail...granted not really the best choice, but
that's the one we're saddled with.

If he does hold out, he'll eventually be found in contempt, and will
answer for it eventually. Even if he does or not, there's no way short of
a custody battle that he'll get the kid with him to Japan. I'm not too
familiar (yet) with visitations, but there obviously has to be something
governing across borders visits much less overseas visits.

I will actually do the one thing that you probably don't expect from
anyone here. It does seem that the mother is allowing the father to do
everything he can in maintaining a relationship with his son. That is
commendable and should be a note to everyone subjected to the CS system.
Perhaps the ex has to see it from the standpoint that the visit overseas
might just be a little too much.

But hey, if that's what he's going to want by forcing contempt on himself
- he should know exactly what's going to happen eventually. Just tell the
mother that the "free money" is going to stop temporarily and to be
prepared for that.

No need to get really agistated about this situation. I think Don said it
very plainly in that being under a CS order there's really nothing he can
do except pay or go to jail...granted not really the best choice, but
that's the one we're saddled with.

If he does hold out, he'll eventually be found in contempt, and will
answer for it eventually. Even if he does or not, there's no way short of
a custody battle that he'll get the kid with him to Japan. I'm not too
familiar (yet) with visitations, but there obviously has to be something
governing across borders visits much less overseas visits.

I will actually do the one thing that you probably don't expect from
anyone here. It does seem that the mother is allowing the father to do
everything he can in maintaining a relationship with his son. That is
commendable and should be a note to everyone subjected to the CS system.
Perhaps the ex has to see it from the standpoint that the visit overseas
might just be a little too much.

But hey, if that's what he's going to want by forcing contempt on himself
- he should know exactly what's going to happen eventually. Just tell the
mother that the "free money" is going to stop temporarily and to be
prepared for that.

No need to get really agistated about this situation. I think Don said it
very plainly in that being under a CS order there's really nothing he can
do except pay or go to jail...granted not really the best choice, but
that's the one we're saddled with.

If he does hold out, he'll eventually be found in contempt, and will
answer for it eventually. Even if he does or not, there's no way short of
a custody battle that he'll get the kid with him to Japan. I'm not too
familiar (yet) with visitations, but there obviously has to be something
governing across borders visits much less overseas visits.

I will actually do the one thing that you probably don't expect from
anyone here. It does seem that the mother is allowing the father to do
everything he can in maintaining a relationship with his son. That is
commendable and should be a note to everyone subjected to the CS system.
Perhaps the ex has to see it from the standpoint that the visit overseas
might just be a little too much.

But hey, if that's what he's going to want by forcing contempt on himself
- he should know exactly what's going to happen eventually. Just tell the
mother that the "free money" is going to stop temporarily and to be
prepared for that.

Thanks so much for your opinion. I guess if the only choice is for him to go
to jail, she will not go through with anything. She will not see her son's
father in jail over money.

Her main issue was the overseas traveling. I hung up with her a little while
ago. Her ex told her that he has one month a year off. She asked since he
would have to fly here to get him would he have a problem just keeping him a
month state side. Hopefully she will get a positive response from that.

"WiseSarah" wrote in message
lkaboutparenting.com...
No need to get really agistated about this situation. I think Don said it
very plainly in that being under a CS order there's really nothing he can
do except pay or go to jail...granted not really the best choice, but
that's the one we're saddled with.

If he does hold out, he'll eventually be found in contempt, and will
answer for it eventually. Even if he does or not, there's no way short of
a custody battle that he'll get the kid with him to Japan. I'm not too
familiar (yet) with visitations, but there obviously has to be something
governing across borders visits much less overseas visits.

I will actually do the one thing that you probably don't expect from
anyone here. It does seem that the mother is allowing the father to do
everything he can in maintaining a relationship with his son. That is
commendable and should be a note to everyone subjected to the CS system.
Perhaps the ex has to see it from the standpoint that the visit overseas
might just be a little too much.

But hey, if that's what he's going to want by forcing contempt on himself
- he should know exactly what's going to happen eventually. Just tell the
mother that the "free money" is going to stop temporarily and to be
prepared for that.

Thanks so much for your opinion. I guess if the only choice is for him to go
to jail, she will not go through with anything. She will not see her son's
father in jail over money.

Her main issue was the overseas traveling. I hung up with her a little while
ago. Her ex told her that he has one month a year off. She asked since he
would have to fly here to get him would he have a problem just keeping him a
month state side. Hopefully she will get a positive response from that.

"WiseSarah" wrote in message
lkaboutparenting.com...
No need to get really agistated about this situation. I think Don said it
very plainly in that being under a CS order there's really nothing he can
do except pay or go to jail...granted not really the best choice, but
that's the one we're saddled with.

If he does hold out, he'll eventually be found in contempt, and will
answer for it eventually. Even if he does or not, there's no way short of
a custody battle that he'll get the kid with him to Japan. I'm not too
familiar (yet) with visitations, but there obviously has to be something
governing across borders visits much less overseas visits.

I will actually do the one thing that you probably don't expect from
anyone here. It does seem that the mother is allowing the father to do
everything he can in maintaining a relationship with his son. That is
commendable and should be a note to everyone subjected to the CS system.
Perhaps the ex has to see it from the standpoint that the visit overseas
might just be a little too much.

But hey, if that's what he's going to want by forcing contempt on himself
- he should know exactly what's going to happen eventually. Just tell the
mother that the "free money" is going to stop temporarily and to be
prepared for that.

Thanks so much for your opinion. I guess if the only choice is for him to go
to jail, she will not go through with anything. She will not see her son's
father in jail over money.

Her main issue was the overseas traveling. I hung up with her a little while
ago. Her ex told her that he has one month a year off. She asked since he
would have to fly here to get him would he have a problem just keeping him a
month state side. Hopefully she will get a positive response from that.

"WiseSarah" wrote in message
lkaboutparenting.com...
No need to get really agistated about this situation. I think Don said it
very plainly in that being under a CS order there's really nothing he can
do except pay or go to jail...granted not really the best choice, but
that's the one we're saddled with.

If he does hold out, he'll eventually be found in contempt, and will
answer for it eventually. Even if he does or not, there's no way short of
a custody battle that he'll get the kid with him to Japan. I'm not too
familiar (yet) with visitations, but there obviously has to be something
governing across borders visits much less overseas visits.

I will actually do the one thing that you probably don't expect from
anyone here. It does seem that the mother is allowing the father to do
everything he can in maintaining a relationship with his son. That is
commendable and should be a note to everyone subjected to the CS system.
Perhaps the ex has to see it from the standpoint that the visit overseas
might just be a little too much.

But hey, if that's what he's going to want by forcing contempt on himself
- he should know exactly what's going to happen eventually. Just tell the
mother that the "free money" is going to stop temporarily and to be
prepared for that.

Thanks so much for your opinion. I guess if the only choice is for him to go
to jail, she will not go through with anything. She will not see her son's
father in jail over money.

Her main issue was the overseas traveling. I hung up with her a little while
ago. Her ex told her that he has one month a year off. She asked since he
would have to fly here to get him would he have a problem just keeping him a
month state side. Hopefully she will get a positive response from that.

"WiseSarah" wrote in message
lkaboutparenting.com...
No need to get really agistated about this situation. I think Don said it
very plainly in that being under a CS order there's really nothing he can
do except pay or go to jail...granted not really the best choice, but
that's the one we're saddled with.

If he does hold out, he'll eventually be found in contempt, and will
answer for it eventually. Even if he does or not, there's no way short of
a custody battle that he'll get the kid with him to Japan. I'm not too
familiar (yet) with visitations, but there obviously has to be something
governing across borders visits much less overseas visits.

I will actually do the one thing that you probably don't expect from
anyone here. It does seem that the mother is allowing the father to do
everything he can in maintaining a relationship with his son. That is
commendable and should be a note to everyone subjected to the CS system.
Perhaps the ex has to see it from the standpoint that the visit overseas
might just be a little too much.

But hey, if that's what he's going to want by forcing contempt on himself
- he should know exactly what's going to happen eventually. Just tell the
mother that the "free money" is going to stop temporarily and to be
prepared for that.

Meleah wrote:

I give up!!!

Don't give up, just ignore them.

I never said my daughter could not support her son. I said he
is threatening to top paying child support. The other issue is the concern
of safety.

You made yourself perfectly clear, but some don't let that get in the way of
their tirads.

Here's the deal. *If* your daughter has a court order for CS then she needs to
get his wages garnished by the military. Once she does that she won't have to
worry about his threats to stop paying.

As far as a 4 yr old flying to Japan, first I'd look into how the airlines
handle this. I wouldn't be surprised if children of that age are not allowed to
fly unattended for that many hours. If they aren't your daughter could offer to
fly with the child and be flown back, and then flown back to retrive him at
the father's expenses. Or the father could do the same, as his expense. This
could even be suggested *if* the airlines allow a child of that age fly
unattended.

What I would also do if I was your daughter is to find out how Japan looks at
custody and if they fully honor the USA's custody orders. Just in case the
father gets any funny ideas.

Bottom line is once you get the wages garnished he will no longer have a threat
to use with your daughter. The Japan thing can be pushed by the father, but it
will most likely need to be decided by a judge, so that will mean her ex will
need to take this into court to get it ironed out. I highly doubt many judges
will feel it's ok to put a 4 yr old on a plane alone to fly overseas.

Good Luck

Mrs Indyguy

Let me reiterate. She is not keeping him from his child. He sees him all the
time now. She is concerned for safety in traveling overseas. He is not
withholding child support for one month...he is saying if she does not do
things his way....he will never pay child support.

"Don" don@free wrote in message ...
If a woman cannot afford to care for a child on her own then she should
turn
over custody to the father. If the father is unwilling or unable to take
the child then he should pay his 50% share of the childs livings expenses
and only lifestyle expenses as he sees fit.

A reasonable person would expect if the child will be in Japan for a month
the father will be supporting the child for that time and should not be
expected to pay support. He will also be incurring a costly round trip
flight for the child.

Legally however he does not have a leg to stand on.

"Meleah Foreman" wrote in message
...
Hmmm..ok. I heard that this was a forum for mainly men, but I will take
my
chances. I need help/advice.

My daughter's ex-husband, who is in the military is getting ready to go
to
Japan (his choice). He has threatened my daughter that if she does not
agree