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Old May 20th 06, 10:00 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,alt.support.attn-deficit,misc.kids.health,talk.politics.medicine
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Justin wrote:
Now saying that the school system is to blame for many problems
(including ADD) is one thing (and for the most part, I agree), but
saying that ADD doesn't even exist at all is something else entirely.


We'll disagree on that...

But hey, what the hell would your average op. writer know about the
subject, anyway?


EXCELLENT QUESTION!

Deserves equally excellent answer:

Not very much.



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Caitriona Mac Fhiodhbhuidhe wrote:
Justin wrote:
Now saying that the school system is to blame for many problems
(including ADD) is one thing (and for the most part, I agree), but
saying that ADD doesn't even exist at all is something else entirely.

But hey, what the hell would your average op. writer know about the
subject, anyway?



Blah.

While I agree with the article WRT the attrocious conditions of most
public schools (having been a public school teacher myself), that has
nothing whatsoever to do with ADHD. In addition, I've NEVER seen or
heard of any school system forcing parents to medicate their children,
except in the fiction posted online.


There have been a few, far fewer than the anti-med crowd would have you
believe, documented cases of a school pressuring parents. We had one of
a parent who had been in one of my support groups and she contacted me
about what to do. She followed my advice to the letter.

She requested that the Committee on Special Ed be reconvened, as is her
right under IDEA. While waiting for the meeting, she sent
memorialization letters to the two people, who returned a denial they
ever said anything.

She requested (insisted) that the administrator and the teacher be
present at the meeting as they clearly had opinions about how to handle
her son.

She had a third party (me) attend with her.

When the introductions were over, the committee chair asked her the
purpose of the meeting. She deferred to me.

I simply stated that Mr. X and Ms. Y had suggested that there be a
change in treatment for her son, and his mother wanted it to be made
part of the kids IEP.

They vigorously denied saying anything, and we then agreed to adjourn
the meeting. On the way out, I told them that she will not discuss her
child unless the discussion is taped or a part of a CSE meeting.

Hasn't been raised since.

That's kinda what's known as
practicing medicine without a license. Not a good thing for a school
administrator to do.


See above. Make them squirm.

In my family, ADHD is normal. It's the rest of the world that's out of
sync. So we find ways to work around the rest of the world, with or
without meds.

When my son was on meds for ADHD, it wasn't the school that encouraged
that. AAMOF, they didn't even know about it. But it *was* because his
teacher that year wouldn't work with me on techniques that would help
him that was the reason for us taking him to the doc for an official
diagnosis.

The next year, we began home educating. YS's response was, "Mom, now
that I'm not in public school, can we work on my learning to focus
without meds?" And he's refused to take them since, even during times
when it would have been extremely beneficial for him to take them
temporarily.

It wasn't the school that had him dx'd or placed on meds. But our
choosing to do so was a result of the school not working with us to
insure that he was getting the education he needed.

Kitten

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Florence Henderson Had A Mullet wrote:
On 19 May 2006 21:43:08 -0700, "Caitriona Mac Fhiodhbhuidhe"
said:

In addition, I've NEVER seen or
heard of any school system forcing parents to medicate their children,


I have. (This is Kentucky.)


Hi Tim.

Buy my book about school bullying he

http://www.lulu.com/content/112781 (recommended)
http://search.barnesandnoble.com/boo...sbn=1411626559
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1411626559


Yes, do buy this book and read it. It shows the evils of bullying better
than I can write.



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Old May 20th 06, 10:11 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,alt.support.attn-deficit,misc.kids.health,talk.politics.medicine
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wrote:
As to the origins of "ADHD" (given that it really does exists, at least
according to many parents), it seems to me the following possibilities
need investigating:

1) mercury vaccines
(
http://groups.google.com/group/misc....47793e9cfce17b)

It was described before thimerosal was ever used. All the evidence
points to thimerosal having no effect.

2) lack of breast feeding


It was described when breast feeding was far more common than today.

3) junk food
(http://www.seedsofdeception.com/GMFr...ools/index.cfm)


AD/HD predates 1955.

4) birth asphyxiation resulting from premature cord clamping
(www.cordclamp.com)

There may be environmental factors involved as well, such as endocrine
disrupters, but the above factors stand out as being abnormal and
needless stressors on children's growing brains. Needless to say, they
also stand out as resulting from the boundless arrogance of our medical
"profession".


Your prejudices are noted. Now, go learn something about AD/HD.



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Old May 20th 06, 10:13 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,alt.support.attn-deficit,misc.kids.health,talk.politics.medicine
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Florence Henderson Had A Mullet wrote:
Private schools are usually far worse though.


Good point.

--

Buy my book about school bullying he

http://www.lulu.com/content/112781 (recommended)
http://search.barnesandnoble.com/boo...sbn=1411626559
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1411626559


Good book.
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Old May 20th 06, 10:45 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,alt.support.attn-deficit,misc.kids.health,talk.politics.medicine
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In article .com,
wrote:
Thank you for this outstanding post. Jan, even now there are
unsuspecting parents on this newsgroup giving these strong drugs to
innocent kids that are TEN YEARS old. And Jan, I hope this wont upset
you too much, but some of those kinds are even younger. MY GOD. We as
a nation and a caring population must rise up and stop this NOW!

Thanks again Jan!


Gee, Mark, whaddaya think -- I think "Richard X. Frager" a/k/a
Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A. has created himself a
sock puppet called "science" (now that's irony).

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"If you can't say something nice, then sit next to me."
-- Alice Roosevelt Longworth
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Old May 20th 06, 10:51 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,alt.support.attn-deficit,misc.kids.health,talk.politics.medicine
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"Florence Henderson Had A Mullet" wrote in
message ...
On 19 May 2006 21:43:08 -0700, "Caitriona Mac Fhiodhbhuidhe"
said:

In addition, I've NEVER seen or
heard of any school system forcing parents to medicate their children,


I have. (This is Kentucky.)


Can't be forced. You can take your kids out of the school system and then
they have no power. It's voluntary.


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Old May 21st 06, 01:55 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,alt.support.attn-deficit,misc.kids.health,talk.politics.medicine
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Mark Probert wrote the following on 5/20/2006 5:12 PM:
Karen R. wrote:


Still, I have two children with ADD and one with autism.


Did you watch television while breast feeding? That will be the next
alleged cause.


Actually, I read a lot. Must have been all those ink fumes.

Karen R
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Mark Probert trying to protect *organized medicine* as usual
wrote:
As to the origins of "ADHD" (given that it really does exists, at least
according to many parents), it seems to me the following possibilities
need investigating:

1) mercury vaccines
(
http://groups.google.com/group/misc....47793e9cfce17b)

It was described before thimerosal was ever used. All the evidence points
to thimerosal having no effect.


Repeated lie.

http://www.flu.org.cn/news/2004986362.htm

http://www.altcorp.com/DentalInformation/thimerosal.htm

http://www.altcorp.com/DentalInformation/thimstudys.htm

http://www.altcorp.com/dentalinformation/asdexperts.htm





2) lack of breast feeding


3) junk food
(http://www.seedsofdeception.com/GMFr...ools/index.cfm)



4) birth asphyxiation resulting from premature cord clamping
(www.cordclamp.com)

There may be environmental factors involved as well, such as endocrine
disrupters, but the above factors stand out as being abnormal and
needless stressors on children's growing brains. Needless to say, they
also stand out as resulting from the boundless arrogance of our medical
"profession".







 




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