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Why Public Schools Pressure Parents To Give Their Kids Mind-AlteringDrugs
Justin wrote:
Now saying that the school system is to blame for many problems (including ADD) is one thing (and for the most part, I agree), but saying that ADD doesn't even exist at all is something else entirely. We'll disagree on that... But hey, what the hell would your average op. writer know about the subject, anyway? EXCELLENT QUESTION! Deserves equally excellent answer: Not very much. |
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Why Public Schools Pressure Parents To Give Their Kids Mind-AlteringDrugs
Caitriona Mac Fhiodhbhuidhe wrote:
Justin wrote: Now saying that the school system is to blame for many problems (including ADD) is one thing (and for the most part, I agree), but saying that ADD doesn't even exist at all is something else entirely. But hey, what the hell would your average op. writer know about the subject, anyway? Blah. While I agree with the article WRT the attrocious conditions of most public schools (having been a public school teacher myself), that has nothing whatsoever to do with ADHD. In addition, I've NEVER seen or heard of any school system forcing parents to medicate their children, except in the fiction posted online. There have been a few, far fewer than the anti-med crowd would have you believe, documented cases of a school pressuring parents. We had one of a parent who had been in one of my support groups and she contacted me about what to do. She followed my advice to the letter. She requested that the Committee on Special Ed be reconvened, as is her right under IDEA. While waiting for the meeting, she sent memorialization letters to the two people, who returned a denial they ever said anything. She requested (insisted) that the administrator and the teacher be present at the meeting as they clearly had opinions about how to handle her son. She had a third party (me) attend with her. When the introductions were over, the committee chair asked her the purpose of the meeting. She deferred to me. I simply stated that Mr. X and Ms. Y had suggested that there be a change in treatment for her son, and his mother wanted it to be made part of the kids IEP. They vigorously denied saying anything, and we then agreed to adjourn the meeting. On the way out, I told them that she will not discuss her child unless the discussion is taped or a part of a CSE meeting. Hasn't been raised since. That's kinda what's known as practicing medicine without a license. Not a good thing for a school administrator to do. See above. Make them squirm. In my family, ADHD is normal. It's the rest of the world that's out of sync. So we find ways to work around the rest of the world, with or without meds. When my son was on meds for ADHD, it wasn't the school that encouraged that. AAMOF, they didn't even know about it. But it *was* because his teacher that year wouldn't work with me on techniques that would help him that was the reason for us taking him to the doc for an official diagnosis. The next year, we began home educating. YS's response was, "Mom, now that I'm not in public school, can we work on my learning to focus without meds?" And he's refused to take them since, even during times when it would have been extremely beneficial for him to take them temporarily. It wasn't the school that had him dx'd or placed on meds. But our choosing to do so was a result of the school not working with us to insure that he was getting the education he needed. Kitten |
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Why Public Schools Pressure Parents To Give Their Kids Mind-AlteringDrugs
Florence Henderson Had A Mullet wrote:
On 19 May 2006 21:43:08 -0700, "Caitriona Mac Fhiodhbhuidhe" said: In addition, I've NEVER seen or heard of any school system forcing parents to medicate their children, I have. (This is Kentucky.) Hi Tim. Buy my book about school bullying he http://www.lulu.com/content/112781 (recommended) http://search.barnesandnoble.com/boo...sbn=1411626559 http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1411626559 Yes, do buy this book and read it. It shows the evils of bullying better than I can write. |
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Why Public Schools Pressure Parents To Give Their Kids Mind-AlteringDrugs
Karen R. wrote:
wrote the following on 5/20/2006 11:10 AM: As to the origins of "ADHD" (given that it really does exists, at least according to many parents), it seems to me the following possibilities need investigating: 1) mercury vaccines I delayed vaccines with all my children because... 2) lack of breast feeding ...I exclusively breastfed for a minimum of six months and count my total time nursing each child by years, not months. 3) junk food Whole grains and homemade foods here. No processed baby food. 4) birth asphyxiation resulting from premature cord clamping Home births with delayed cord clamping. Still, I have two children with ADD and one with autism. Did you watch television while breast feeding? That will be the next alleged cause. |
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Why Public Schools Pressure Parents To Give Their Kids Mind-AlteringDrugs
Florence Henderson Had A Mullet wrote:
Private schools are usually far worse though. Good point. -- Buy my book about school bullying he http://www.lulu.com/content/112781 (recommended) http://search.barnesandnoble.com/boo...sbn=1411626559 http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1411626559 Good book. |
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Why Public Schools Pressure Parents To Give Their Kids Mind-Altering Drugs
In article .com,
wrote: Thank you for this outstanding post. Jan, even now there are unsuspecting parents on this newsgroup giving these strong drugs to innocent kids that are TEN YEARS old. And Jan, I hope this wont upset you too much, but some of those kinds are even younger. MY GOD. We as a nation and a caring population must rise up and stop this NOW! Thanks again Jan! Gee, Mark, whaddaya think -- I think "Richard X. Frager" a/k/a Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A. has created himself a sock puppet called "science" (now that's irony). -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "If you can't say something nice, then sit next to me." -- Alice Roosevelt Longworth |
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Why Public Schools Pressure Parents To Give Their Kids Mind-Altering Drugs
"Florence Henderson Had A Mullet" wrote in message ... On 19 May 2006 21:43:08 -0700, "Caitriona Mac Fhiodhbhuidhe" said: In addition, I've NEVER seen or heard of any school system forcing parents to medicate their children, I have. (This is Kentucky.) Can't be forced. You can take your kids out of the school system and then they have no power. It's voluntary. |
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Why Public Schools Pressure Parents To Give Their Kids Mind-AlteringDrugs
Mark Probert wrote the following on 5/20/2006 5:12 PM:
Karen R. wrote: Still, I have two children with ADD and one with autism. Did you watch television while breast feeding? That will be the next alleged cause. Actually, I read a lot. Must have been all those ink fumes. Karen R |
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Why Public Schools Pressure Parents To Give Their Kids Mind-Altering Drugs
Mark Probert trying to protect *organized medicine* as usual wrote: As to the origins of "ADHD" (given that it really does exists, at least according to many parents), it seems to me the following possibilities need investigating: 1) mercury vaccines (http://groups.google.com/group/misc....47793e9cfce17b) It was described before thimerosal was ever used. All the evidence points to thimerosal having no effect. Repeated lie. http://www.flu.org.cn/news/2004986362.htm http://www.altcorp.com/DentalInformation/thimerosal.htm http://www.altcorp.com/DentalInformation/thimstudys.htm http://www.altcorp.com/dentalinformation/asdexperts.htm 2) lack of breast feeding 3) junk food (http://www.seedsofdeception.com/GMFr...ools/index.cfm) 4) birth asphyxiation resulting from premature cord clamping (www.cordclamp.com) There may be environmental factors involved as well, such as endocrine disrupters, but the above factors stand out as being abnormal and needless stressors on children's growing brains. Needless to say, they also stand out as resulting from the boundless arrogance of our medical "profession". |
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