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Old November 27th 06, 04:34 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,alt.health,talk.politics.medicine,misc.kids.health,sci.med
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http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/medi...p?newsid=37182

New York Times Examines Increased Popularity Of Alternative Medicine
In U.S.


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Old November 27th 06, 04:39 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,alt.health,talk.politics.medicine,misc.kids.health,sci.med
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Jan Drew wrote:
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/medi...p?newsid=37182

New York Times Examines Increased Popularity Of Alternative Medicine
In U.S.


Thanks, Jan.

As the article states, 'U.S. residents "do not appear to care that
there is little, if any, evidence that many of the therapies work";
that "alternative therapy practitioners do not have a fraction of the
training mainstream doctors do"; or that vitamin and dietary supplement
manufacturers "are as profit-driven" as pharmaceutical manufacturers,
the Times reports.'

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Old November 27th 06, 05:06 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,alt.health,talk.politics.medicine,misc.kids.health,sci.med
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Default New York Times Examines Increased Popularity Of Alternative Medicine In U.S.


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Jan Drew wrote:
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/medi...p?newsid=37182

New York Times Examines Increased Popularity Of Alternative
Medicine
In U.S.


Thanks, Jan.

As the article states, 'U.S. residents "do not appear to care that
there is little, if any, evidence that many of the therapies work";
that "alternative therapy practitioners do not have a fraction of the
training mainstream doctors do"; or that vitamin and dietary supplement
manufacturers "are as profit-driven" as pharmaceutical manufacturers,
the Times reports.'

The article states:

The New York Times on Friday examined how the more than $27 billion that
U.S. residents spend annually on alternative and complementary medicine
provides the "most telling evidence of Americans' dissatisfaction with
traditional health care." According to the Times, an estimated 48% of U.S.
adults used at least one alternative or complementary treatment in 2004,
compared with 42% in 1994, and health care experts maintain that the rate
continues to increase "for reasons that have as much to do with increasing
distrust of mainstream medicine and the psychological appeal of
nontraditional approaches as with the therapeutic properties of herbs or
other supplements."


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Old November 27th 06, 05:11 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,alt.health,talk.politics.medicine,misc.kids.health,sci.med
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Default New York Times Examines Increased Popularity Of Alternative Medicine In U.S.


Jan Drew wrote:
"cathyb" wrote in message
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Jan Drew wrote:
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/medi...p?newsid=37182

New York Times Examines Increased Popularity Of Alternative
Medicine
In U.S.


Thanks, Jan.

As the article states, 'U.S. residents "do not appear to care that
there is little, if any, evidence that many of the therapies work";
that "alternative therapy practitioners do not have a fraction of the
training mainstream doctors do"; or that vitamin and dietary supplement
manufacturers "are as profit-driven" as pharmaceutical manufacturers,
the Times reports.'

The article states:

The New York Times on Friday examined how the more than $27 billion that
U.S. residents spend annually on alternative and complementary medicine
provides the "most telling evidence of Americans' dissatisfaction with
traditional health care." According to the Times, an estimated 48% of U.S.
adults used at least one alternative or complementary treatment in 2004,
compared with 42% in 1994, and health care experts maintain that the rate
continues to increase "for reasons that have as much to do with increasing
distrust of mainstream medicine and the psychological appeal of
nontraditional approaches as with the therapeutic properties of herbs or
other supplements."


Yep, and it also states that "'U.S. residents "do not appear to care
that there is little, if any, evidence that many of the therapies
work"; that "alternative therapy practitioners do not have a fraction
of the training mainstream doctors do"; or that vitamin and dietary
supplement
manufacturers "are as profit-driven" as pharmaceutical manufacturers,
the Times reports.'

The fact that people are dissatisfied with real medicine making
mistakes and not letting them live forever does not make complementary
medicine work. Any more than the fact that millions of people believe
in astrology makes it real.

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Old November 27th 06, 05:27 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,alt.health,talk.politics.medicine,misc.kids.health,sci.med
Jan Drew
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Default New York Times Examines Increased Popularity Of Alternative Medicine In U.S.


"cathyb" wrote in message
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Jan Drew wrote:
"cathyb" wrote in message
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Jan Drew wrote:
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/medi...p?newsid=37182

New York Times Examines Increased Popularity Of Alternative
Medicine
In U.S.

Thanks, Jan.

As the article states, 'U.S. residents "do not appear to care that
there is little, if any, evidence that many of the therapies work";
that "alternative therapy practitioners do not have a fraction of the
training mainstream doctors do"; or that vitamin and dietary supplement
manufacturers "are as profit-driven" as pharmaceutical manufacturers,
the Times reports.'

The article states:

The New York Times on Friday examined how the more than $27 billion that
U.S. residents spend annually on alternative and complementary medicine
provides the "most telling evidence of Americans' dissatisfaction with
traditional health care." According to the Times, an estimated 48% of
U.S.
adults used at least one alternative or complementary treatment in 2004,
compared with 42% in 1994, and health care experts maintain that the rate
continues to increase "for reasons that have as much to do with
increasing
distrust of mainstream medicine and the psychological appeal of
nontraditional approaches as with the therapeutic properties of herbs or
other supplements."


Yep, and it also states that "'U.S. residents "do not appear to care
that there is little, if any, evidence that many of the therapies
work"; that "alternative therapy practitioners do not have a fraction
of the training mainstream doctors do"; or that vitamin and dietary
supplement
manufacturers "are as profit-driven" as pharmaceutical manufacturers,
the Times reports.'

The fact that people are dissatisfied with real medicine making
mistakes and not letting them live forever does not make complementary
medicine work. Any more than the fact that millions of people believe
in astrology makes it real.

U.S. residents who use alternative or complementary treatments often have a
"sense of disappointment" or "betrayal" related to a "misdiagnosis, an
intolerable drug, failed surgery, a dismissive doctor" or "haggles with
insurance providers, conflicting findings from medical studies and news
reports of drug makers' covering up product side effects," according to the
Times. "Whatever the benefits and risks of its many concoctions and methods,
alternative medicine offers them at least the promise of affectionate care,
unhurried service, freedom from prescription drug side effects and the
potential for feeling not just better but also spiritually charged," the
Times reports (Carey, New York Times, 2/3).


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Old November 27th 06, 05:53 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,alt.health,talk.politics.medicine,misc.kids.health,sci.med
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Default New York Times Examines Increased Popularity Of Alternative Medicine In U.S.


cathyb wrote:

The fact that people are dissatisfied with real medicine making
mistakes and not letting them live forever does not make complementary
medicine work. Any more than the fact that millions of people believe
in astrology makes it real.


Nor have you made a case against tthe fact that many of these therapies
are successful, do well in trials. That pharmaceutical companies take
note and then use these, often in single chemical forms. That PCs also
run around interview folk healers and taking plants back home and THEN
PATENT THEM for use in medicines.

You want to throw out the baby with the bath water, fine. Or course
there are idiots out there selling and buying ****. And then there are
products or herbs or treatments that work, many of them being validated
by, for example, naturopaths, who are as anal and well trained as
allopathic professionals.

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Old November 27th 06, 06:08 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,alt.health,talk.politics.medicine,misc.kids.health,sci.med
cathyb
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Default New York Times Examines Increased Popularity Of Alternative Medicine In U.S.


Jan Drew wrote:
"cathyb" wrote in message
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Jan Drew wrote:
"cathyb" wrote in message
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Jan Drew wrote:
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/medi...p?newsid=37182

New York Times Examines Increased Popularity Of Alternative
Medicine
In U.S.

Thanks, Jan.

As the article states, 'U.S. residents "do not appear to care that
there is little, if any, evidence that many of the therapies work";
that "alternative therapy practitioners do not have a fraction of the
training mainstream doctors do"; or that vitamin and dietary supplement
manufacturers "are as profit-driven" as pharmaceutical manufacturers,
the Times reports.'

The article states:

The New York Times on Friday examined how the more than $27 billion that
U.S. residents spend annually on alternative and complementary medicine
provides the "most telling evidence of Americans' dissatisfaction with
traditional health care." According to the Times, an estimated 48% of
U.S.
adults used at least one alternative or complementary treatment in 2004,
compared with 42% in 1994, and health care experts maintain that the rate
continues to increase "for reasons that have as much to do with
increasing
distrust of mainstream medicine and the psychological appeal of
nontraditional approaches as with the therapeutic properties of herbs or
other supplements."


Yep, and it also states that 'U.S. residents "do not appear to care
that there is little, if any, evidence that many of the therapies
work"; that "alternative therapy practitioners do not have a fraction
of the training mainstream doctors do"; or that vitamin and dietary
supplement
manufacturers "are as profit-driven" as pharmaceutical manufacturers,
the Times reports.'

The fact that people are dissatisfied with real medicine making
mistakes and not letting them live forever does not make complementary
medicine work. Any more than the fact that millions of people believe
in astrology makes it real.

U.S. residents who use alternative or complementary treatments often have a
"sense of disappointment" or "betrayal" related to a "misdiagnosis, an
intolerable drug, failed surgery, a dismissive doctor" or "haggles with
insurance providers, conflicting findings from medical studies and news
reports of drug makers' covering up product side effects," according to the
Times. "Whatever the benefits and risks of its many concoctions and methods,
alternative medicine offers them at least the promise of affectionate care,
unhurried service, freedom from prescription drug side effects and the
potential for feeling not just better but also spiritually charged," the
Times reports (Carey, New York Times, 2/3).


Jan, are you incapable of reading English? Oh, yes...

OK, I'll try again. The fact that people are unhappy with the way that
real medical care is delivered will not make complementary medicine
actually *work*. Any more than the fact that millions of people believe
in astrology makes it real.

As (sigh) the article said: 'U.S. residents "do not appear to care that
there is little, if any, evidence that many of the therapies work";
that "alternative therapy practitioners do not have a fraction of the
training mainstream doctors do"; or that vitamin and dietary supplement
manufacturers "are as profit-driven" as pharmaceutical manufacturers,
the Times reports.'

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Old November 27th 06, 10:55 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,alt.health,talk.politics.medicine,misc.kids.health,sci.med
cathyb
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Default New York Times Examines Increased Popularity Of Alternative Medicine In U.S.


Sammybaby wrote:
cathyb wrote:

The fact that people are dissatisfied with real medicine making
mistakes and not letting them live forever does not make complementary
medicine work. Any more than the fact that millions of people believe
in astrology makes it real.


Nor have you made a case against tthe fact that many of these therapies
are successful, do well in trials. That pharmaceutical companies take
note and then use these, often in single chemical forms. That PCs also
run around interview folk healers and taking plants back home and THEN
PATENT THEM for use in medicines.

You want to throw out the baby with the bath water, fine. Or course
there are idiots out there selling and buying ****. And then there are
products or herbs or treatments that work, many of them being validated
by, for example, naturopaths, who are as anal and well trained as
allopathic professionals.


Naturopaths may well be anal, but they are not as well-trained as
doctors.

And when any therapy does well in trials it's no longer "alternative".
It simply becomes therapy.

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Old November 27th 06, 01:42 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,alt.health,talk.politics.medicine,misc.kids.health,sci.med
JohnDoe
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Default New York Times Examines Increased Popularity Of Alternative MedicineIn U.S.

cathyb wrote:

Jan Drew wrote:

"cathyb" wrote in message
groups.com...

Jan Drew wrote:

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/medi...p?newsid=37182

New York Times Examines Increased Popularity Of Alternative
Medicine
In U.S.

Thanks, Jan.

As the article states, 'U.S. residents "do not appear to care that
there is little, if any, evidence that many of the therapies work";
that "alternative therapy practitioners do not have a fraction of the
training mainstream doctors do"; or that vitamin and dietary supplement
manufacturers "are as profit-driven" as pharmaceutical manufacturers,
the Times reports.'


The article states:

The New York Times on Friday examined how the more than $27 billion that
U.S. residents spend annually on alternative and complementary medicine
provides the "most telling evidence of Americans' dissatisfaction with
traditional health care." According to the Times, an estimated 48% of U.S.
adults used at least one alternative or complementary treatment in 2004,
compared with 42% in 1994, and health care experts maintain that the rate
continues to increase "for reasons that have as much to do with increasing
distrust of mainstream medicine and the psychological appeal of
nontraditional approaches as with the therapeutic properties of herbs or
other supplements."



Yep, and it also states that "'U.S. residents "do not appear to care
that there is little, if any, evidence that many of the therapies
work"; that "alternative therapy practitioners do not have a fraction
of the training mainstream doctors do"; or that vitamin and dietary
supplement
manufacturers "are as profit-driven" as pharmaceutical manufacturers,
the Times reports.'

The fact that people are dissatisfied with real medicine making
mistakes and not letting them live forever does not make complementary
medicine work. Any more than the fact that millions of people believe
in astrology makes it real.


What typical reply for a Virgo.
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Old November 27th 06, 01:57 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,alt.health,talk.politics.medicine,misc.kids.health,sci.med
cathyb
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Default New York Times Examines Increased Popularity Of Alternative Medicine In U.S.


JohnDoe wrote:
cathyb wrote:

Jan Drew wrote:

"cathyb" wrote in message
groups.com...

Jan Drew wrote:

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/medi...p?newsid=37182

New York Times Examines Increased Popularity Of Alternative
Medicine
In U.S.

Thanks, Jan.

As the article states, 'U.S. residents "do not appear to care that
there is little, if any, evidence that many of the therapies work";
that "alternative therapy practitioners do not have a fraction of the
training mainstream doctors do"; or that vitamin and dietary supplement
manufacturers "are as profit-driven" as pharmaceutical manufacturers,
the Times reports.'


The article states:

The New York Times on Friday examined how the more than $27 billion that
U.S. residents spend annually on alternative and complementary medicine
provides the "most telling evidence of Americans' dissatisfaction with
traditional health care." According to the Times, an estimated 48% of U.S.
adults used at least one alternative or complementary treatment in 2004,
compared with 42% in 1994, and health care experts maintain that the rate
continues to increase "for reasons that have as much to do with increasing
distrust of mainstream medicine and the psychological appeal of
nontraditional approaches as with the therapeutic properties of herbs or
other supplements."



Yep, and it also states that "'U.S. residents "do not appear to care
that there is little, if any, evidence that many of the therapies
work"; that "alternative therapy practitioners do not have a fraction
of the training mainstream doctors do"; or that vitamin and dietary
supplement
manufacturers "are as profit-driven" as pharmaceutical manufacturers,
the Times reports.'

The fact that people are dissatisfied with real medicine making
mistakes and not letting them live forever does not make complementary
medicine work. Any more than the fact that millions of people believe
in astrology makes it real.


What typical reply for a Virgo.


I don't often giggle, but thanks for that one

 




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