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milk allergies, and how I've dealt with my own problem...
"Vicky Bilaniuk" wrote in message
.. . All this mention about milk allergies, lately, reminds me of my own experience. I have had trouble with milk for more than half of my life. I was OK as a kid, but around 11ish, I started having trouble. First, it was just a sore stomach after downing a glass of 2%. Eventually, I started getting real digestive upset, and I would get it from much smaller amounts than just a full glass, and I would get it from other sources, too. It eventually got to the point where I had to start trying to deal with the problem. I have the same problem with milk. I dont know if you have this part as well but along with not being able to drink full fat milk without tummy problems if i drink any milk before I eat a good meal or with cerial in the morning it makes me nauseas That means carnation instant breakfast is out for me. Someone else has mentioned that there is less lactose in skim milk then in full but from what i recall it is actualy the other way arround. Cream is all fat so atkins people can use that but not skim. Lactose is the sugar.. Anyway I have always just figured I had a problem with the fat since other sourses of fat tend to irratate my tummy Tori -- Bonnie 3/20/02 Xavier due 10/17/04 |
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milk allergies, and how I've dealt with my own problem...
"Vicky Bilaniuk" wrote in message .. . Now, I'm on my third attempt, and I really seem to have found something that works beautifully! *Filtered* skim milk! Any brand. I can suck that stuff back like it's nothing. It gives me absolutely no digestive upset at all. This is a very good thing, because I've been craving milk like nuts during this pregnancy. I've been consuming almost an entire small bag (one out of the three bags that you normally get inside a larger bag - not sure of the measurements) every day. I love love love filtered skim milk. ;-) Where the heck do you get filtered skim milk? Do you do it yourself? What do they filter out? |
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milk allergies, and how I've dealt with my own problem...
toypup wrote:
"Vicky Bilaniuk" wrote in message .. . Now, I'm on my third attempt, and I really seem to have found something that works beautifully! *Filtered* skim milk! Any brand. I can suck that stuff back like it's nothing. It gives me absolutely no digestive upset at all. This is a very good thing, because I've been craving milk like nuts during this pregnancy. I've been consuming almost an entire small bag (one out of the three bags that you normally get inside a larger bag - not sure of the measurements) every day. I love love love filtered skim milk. ;-) Where the heck do you get filtered skim milk? Do you do it yourself? What do they filter out? I can get it in any grocery store I shop in. I can also get it at my corner store (Mac's Milk). (horribly expensive at the corner store, but hey they are one of the few places that I know of that actually cares for their milk, so they are a good place to shop) IIRC, they *claim* to filter out bacteria that aren't killed by the pasteurization process. I honestly have no idea what they filter out, nor do I care. All I know is that I can drink the stuff with impunity. :-) The taste is different, though, but it's actually a nice taste, IMO. Brand names that I know of in Canada are Lactantia (now owned by Parmalat) and Neilson. I think Neilson *just* introduced their brand, maybe about a year ago, but I can't remember for sure. I should be careful, though... I live in an area that is regularly used as a test market for both Canada and the US, so it's possible that Nelson's brand, at least, is not available elsewhere yet (if they even sell outside of Canada - I actually have no idea if they are multinational or what, since I can't find a website for them). Lactantia was previously Canadian-only (and they have a website), so it might not be available elsewhere, despite having been bought up by Parmalat. Now if only they would make ice cream out of this stuff... Then I would be set. |
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milk allergies, and how I've dealt with my own problem...
Tori M. wrote:
"Vicky Bilaniuk" wrote in message .. . All this mention about milk allergies, lately, reminds me of my own experience. I have had trouble with milk for more than half of my life. I was OK as a kid, but around 11ish, I started having trouble. First, it was just a sore stomach after downing a glass of 2%. Eventually, I started getting real digestive upset, and I would get it from much smaller amounts than just a full glass, and I would get it from other sources, too. It eventually got to the point where I had to start trying to deal with the problem. I have the same problem with milk. I dont know if you have this part as well but along with not being able to drink full fat milk without tummy problems if i drink any milk before I eat a good meal or with cerial in the morning it makes me nauseas That means carnation instant breakfast is out for me. Someone else has mentioned that there is less lactose in skim milk then in full but from what i recall it is actualy the other way arround. Cream is all fat so atkins people can use that but not skim. Lactose is the sugar.. Anyway I have always just figured I had a problem with the fat since other sourses of fat tend to irratate my tummy But the thing for me is that I no longer think it's the fat. Also, AFAIK, lactose is found in all parts of milk, so you should still get it in cream or skim. AFAIK, the only way to get rid of it is to break it down. I don't know *what* I react to, but I sure do react to *something* in regular milk. It seems like filtered is the only way to go, for me, so I hope that the stuff *never* gets taken off the market. ;-) (it wasn't very popular at first, likely because it's more expensive, but it has stuck around because it has a bit of a die-hard following) |
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Now if only they would make ice cream out of this stuff... Then I would be set. You could always get an icecream maker I have one I would give you but you live too far away I do not care for home made icecream but discovered that after I bought the dumb thing. Tori |
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Tori M. wrote:
Now if only they would make ice cream out of this stuff... Then I would be set. You could always get an icecream maker I have one I would give you but you live too far away I do not care for home made icecream but discovered that after I bought the dumb thing. Actually, I have one! I got it as some club reward for something. I don't use it anymore, though, because the motorized part is just waaaaaaaay too loud. I only used it about two or three times. Too bad, actually, because the ice cream it made came out really nicely. |
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milk allergies, and how I've dealt with my own problem...
Vicky Bilaniuk wrote
I don't know *what* I react to, but I sure do react to *something* in regular milk. It seems like filtered is the only way to go, for me [...] Filtration will trap things that are above a certain size; do you know what that size limit is? FWIW, I think it is highly unlikely that the filtration itself is responsible for your being able to drink the milk. Rather, I would bet the filtered milk comes from a specific dairy or cooperative. And those cows have a diet that lacks whatever you are allergic to. I have a brother who is allergic only to something in milk bottled in a certain part of the US. Which means that if he avoids dairy products from a certain major supermarket brand, he can be fairly confident of having no exposure to the allergen. Whatever it is. Pologirl |
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pologirl wrote:
Vicky Bilaniuk wrote I don't know *what* I react to, but I sure do react to *something* in regular milk. It seems like filtered is the only way to go, for me [...] Filtration will trap things that are above a certain size; do you know what that size limit is? Nope. I know nothing other than that filtered milk is OK. Other kinds of milk from the same companies is not OK. I can go with any company (I mentioned two in particular, but there was a third that I couldn't remember when I wrote my previous post). I know nothing about their processing techniques, though. FWIW, I think it is highly unlikely that the filtration itself is responsible for your being able to drink the milk. Rather, I would bet the filtered milk comes from a specific dairy or cooperative. And those cows have a diet that lacks whatever you are allergic to. I wouldn't be able to say, because I don't have enough info. Sounds like a good explanation, but really all I know is that one type of milk is filtered, and the other is not, and it's the "filtered" stuff that works for me, regardless of company, and there are 3 companies that I've tried. (the one I forgot to mention before is Natrel) I have finally managed to find websites for all 3 companies, and unfortunately, they're all Canadian only, by the sounds of things (really shocked me, actually - I'm so used to everything being foreign owned). Anyway, one gets its milk from Quebec, another from Ontario, and the third from "Eastern Canada". All of them make filtered milk that goes down well with me, and other kinds of milk that make me sick. ;-) I have no clue if there are special diets that they ask the farmers to use for milk that is intended to be "filtered". I wouldn't be surprised if at least Nielson is messing with the diets, though, because according to their website, some of their products are based entirely on special diets for the cows. I'll have to ask my grandparents, who used to own a dairy farm, if milk companies used to ask for special diets at all. They've never mentioned anything along those lines, but then they owned their farm back in the 50s and 60s, so things may be very different now. They *did* mention that both the law and the dairy companies were really picky about the cleanliness of equipment, though. As a result, my grandparents kept their equipment so clean that when their milk got to the local cheese factory, the factory had to actually add bacteria because the milk was too clean. ;-) (so the story goes, anyway) |
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milk allergies, and how I've dealt with my own problem...
Vicky Bilaniuk wrote:
tried. (the one I forgot to mention before is Natrel) I have finally managed to find websites for all 3 companies, and unfortunately, they're all Canadian only, by the sounds of things (really shocked me, actually Oh geeze, now I feel really badly. I just looked at Natrel's site a bit more, and they don't even sell their filtered products outside of Ontario. For all I know, the market might be that small for the other companies, too. I feel badly for having mentioned these products at all. I honestly thought that the stuff would be available all over the place. |
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milk allergies, and how I've dealt with my own problem...
pologirl wrote:
Vicky Bilaniuk wrote I don't know *what* I react to, but I sure do react to *something* in regular milk. It seems like filtered is the only way to go, for me [...] Filtration will trap things that are above a certain size; do you know what that size limit is? Just to add... Going from what I found he http://www.natrel.ca/english/faq/faq_17.html It sounds like the filter filters out things that are just slightly bigger than the largest naturally occurring protein in milk. This would make sense when thinking of their claim that it removes a lot of bacteria, since bacteria are much larger than your average protein. Beyond that I can't say anything else. I don't know what the largest protein in milk is. I tried a google search, but as usual, google is completely useless for anything in the scientific realm (all I ever get from them is absolute trash when trying to look up anything relating to chemistry or biology). Anyway, I'm actually going to e-mail them, just out of curiosity. |
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