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Old January 28th 06, 05:15 PM posted to alt.child-support
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I think I am in serious problem .
I dont know what to do at the moment .
My wife had a baby this month . She was not sure , that baby is mine so
she didnot include my name in the BIRTH certificate of the baby .
We are in NY . Since I am not in the birth certificate , am I forced
to provide child support in future when we go in seperate ways .

I am also confused about filing tax return for 2006 . Since I am not
sure about the baby is mine but i am legally married to my wife .
Should I file the tax return with wife and child or
should I file seperately . If I file seperately I might have to pay
taxes alot .
If I file together , will I be automatically father of the child ?
Please help me at the moment of confusion .
thank you

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Old January 28th 06, 06:12 PM posted to alt.child-support
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"Dream" wrote in

We are in NY . Since I am not in the birth certificate , am I forced
to provide child support in future when we go in seperate ways .


I take it you are going your seperate ways seeing as your wife is having
another man's baby?

Is that clear enough!



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Old January 28th 06, 10:10 PM posted to alt.child-support
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Women use child support every day to financially punish their ex spouses for
some miserable reason or another. You my friend are in the wonderful
position of financially punishing the man who screwed your wife. Best case
scenario, he is also married with children and will have to pay his soon to
be divorced family, but, they get sloppy seconds as far as child support
goes if you file first.

Have fun.
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"Dream" wrote in

We are in NY . Since I am not in the birth certificate , am I forced
to provide child support in future when we go in seperate ways .


I take it you are going your seperate ways seeing as your wife is having
another man's baby?

Is that clear enough!





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Old January 28th 06, 10:38 PM posted to alt.child-support
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Dream:

Okay first thing I would do is get a Paternity Test done to prove one
way or the other. If for not other reason, then peace of mind.. And
the question is. Was she married to you when she got pregnant.
Because do you really want to be raising a child that you offically
have no claim to.

But as far as the Tx Return thing goes. Claiming them as
depedants... if she just had the baby this month, you wouldn't be able
to claim the child next years taxes anyways. But your wife can be
claimed as a dependant if she maid under a certain amount. I'm not
totally sure with US Tax Laws... Your taxes are for your standings as
of Dec 31 of the previous year... Anythign that happens after that
date would be in a new year.

You would be forced to pay child support in some States if you are
deemed to be the parental figure. And to me if you are even concerned
about this. Then it sounds like Divorce is on the horizon. So to
protect yourself, and get the facts clear, have a Paternity Test done.

Other thing, if she refuses to let you do it, and you seperate like
now... within the first couple of months of birth, then she really
doesn't have much a claim to child support from you. She would be
requested by the courts to submitt proof that you are the father. And
the only way to do that in this day and age is via a Paternity Test.

Wish you luck. But my advice is make sure you get the facts clear
before going any further. If the child is yours, and you seperate, you
also have rights to your child as well. But the other side of the
coin, depending how custody is arrange, you may be responsible for
paying support if you are also deemed the father.

SpiderHam77

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Old January 28th 06, 11:03 PM posted to alt.child-support
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"CLETUS" wrote in message
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Women use child support every day to financially punish their ex spouses
for some miserable reason or another. You my friend are in the wonderful
position of financially punishing the man who screwed your wife. Best
case scenario, he is also married with children and will have to pay his
soon to be divorced family, but, they get sloppy seconds as far as child
support goes if you file first.


Why would you want a thing like that to happen? Why would you want any of
the children to suffer any more than necessary for what the adults in thier
lives chose to do? Do you think that using the CS system to exact revenge
is a good thing?


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Old January 29th 06, 01:58 AM posted to alt.child-support
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If you are not named on the birth certificate then you are not named as
the father. You would not have to pay support unless she decided to
name you and a Paternity test deemed that you were, if there is no test
you are not liable. The others who replied were correct in stating
that you need to determine the paternity of this child right away. If
you are not named on the Birth Certificate you have no rights either
right at the moment, If something should happen to the mother, you
would not be the legal guardian. Good luck If you need me in the
future go to www.zerobalance4u.com

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Old January 29th 06, 02:11 AM posted to alt.child-support
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"supportspecialist" wrote
If you are not named on the birth certificate then you are not named as
the father. You would not have to pay support unless she decided to
name you and a Paternity test deemed that you were, if there is no test
you are not liable.

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This is simply incorrect. There are many circumstances (well known, in fact)
where he may be
ordered to pay support even if the child is not his. 1. When a couple is
married and the wife has a baby, the baby is
considered to be legally his with all rights and responsibilities. 2. If the
husband presents himself as the child's father
in school and community, he can be ordered to pay support. 3. If the child
*thinks* he is the father, he can be
ordered to pay support. 4. If he lets the child call him "Daddy," he can be
ordered to pay support. 5. If the bio dad has
significantly lower income, the husband ( or ex-husband), can be ordered to
pay support. The husband does indeed need a paternity test pronto and then
remove himself as far away from the child as possible and have no contact
with said child. This is not a time for husbands to
"do the right thing" by the child by playing dad--A real travesty, but legal
reality of the system which purports itself to act "in the best interest of
the child."
"Support Specialist" needs significantly more knowledge of support matters
before presenting him/herself as an expert.
===


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Old February 1st 06, 05:06 AM posted to alt.child-support
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Why would you want a thing like that to happen? Why would you want
any of
the children to suffer any more than necessary for what the adults in
thier
lives chose to do? Do you think that using the CS system to exact
revenge
is a good thing?

Your mixing up the common good with justice the rights of this
individual. His wife cheated on him. He is ***JUSTIFIED*** in taking
apropriate action to avenge that misjustice even at the expense of
children. If you believe otherwise, by all means, make Donald Trump
the father of all the children in America and let him pay for child
support. Thats a lot easier than making a man whose wife cheated on
him homeless.

Ruben

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Old February 1st 06, 05:48 AM posted to alt.child-support
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Why would you want a thing like that to happen? Why would you want
any of
the children to suffer any more than necessary for what the adults in
thier
lives chose to do? Do you think that using the CS system to exact
revenge
is a good thing?

Your mixing up the common good with justice the rights of this
individual. His wife cheated on him. He is ***JUSTIFIED*** in taking
apropriate action to avenge that misjustice even at the expense of
children. If you believe otherwise, by all means, make Donald Trump
the father of all the children in America and let him pay for child
support. Thats a lot easier than making a man whose wife cheated on
him homeless.


I don't disagree that he deserves justice. But I see no reason to say the
following:

"Women use child support every day to financially punish their ex spouses
for
some miserable reason or another. You my friend are in the wonderful
position of financially punishing the man who screwed your wife. Best case
scenario, he is also married with children and will have to pay his soon to
be divorced family, but, they get sloppy seconds as far as child support
goes if you file first."

I don't think the child support system is set up for justice--I think it is
set up in such a way that it can and is used for revenge. Justice and
revenge are 2 different things.




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Old February 1st 06, 06:23 PM posted to alt.child-support
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But I see no reason to say the
following:

"Women use child support every day to financially punish their ex
spouses
for
some miserable reason or another. You my friend are in the wonderful
position of financially punishing the man who screwed your wife. Best
case
scenario, he is also married with children and will have to pay his
soon to
be divorced family, but, they get sloppy seconds as far as child
support
goes if you file first."


I see every reason for someone to say this. Its probably because
they've been raped from the child support laws. Being raped is an
emotional event.



I don't think the child support system is set up for justice--I think
it is
set up in such a way that it can and is used for revenge. Justice and
revenge are 2 different things.

The child support system is part of the "Justice System". You can not
seperate the concept of JUSTICE from court ordered child support. The
mistake which is killing men and causing homelessness is that justice
is being tossed out the window and the Court is being used for a social
welfare policy agenda to end child poverty.

As for Justice and revenge being seperate things, this is not true.
The purpose of Justice is to 1st placitate the impulse for revenge.
When justice breaks down, people take revenge into the streets. And so
you see an increasing number of men committing suicide and taking their
wives and children with them (among other events).

Ruben
Ruben

 




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