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kcarmstrong wrote: The guy has eight children! In a planet with diminishing resources having that many children is a form of pollution. Human beings are not pollution. Children are not trash. Children contribute to society as well as consume. Perhaps his 8th child will discover the cure for cancer or aids. What educated person could justify so many? I know lots of educated people with big families. Perhaps they don't feel the need to justify their reproductive choices. Leslie |
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Pfffffft! Now there is breakfast cereal on my chin! LOL ... can't say we've done it... but then, we've only had sex 3 times since Will was born. oh my, and I thought things were bad here, I've not been keeping count, but it can't be many more than 10 times, but it's not breastfeeding that's got in the way, it's the fact that with SPD and a hip recoving from injuries, it's just too darn painful, I miss it though and it's a hard thing for us to talk about Anne |
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The guy has eight children! In a planet with diminishing resources having that many children is a form of pollution. Human beings are not pollution. Children are not trash. Children contribute to society as well as consume. Perhaps his 8th child will discover the cure for cancer or aids. What educated person could justify so many? I know lots of educated people with big families. Perhaps they don't feel the need to justify their reproductive choices. it's also not justified to blame the population explosion on children being born today, it's actually increased life expectancy that causes that. Already many parts of the UK are said to have a defecit of children because the birth rate is too low, though the population of the UK has increased recently, if it were not for immigration the population would be decreasing. Perhaps it would be better if there weren't so many people living in certain parts of the world, but if we all suddenly only have one child we'll just end up with a population that can't support itself. I often wonder what things will be like in China in 20-30 years, once the parents who were only allowed one child become pensioners and that one child has no children of there own because of the huge imbalance of boys and girls. I used to think that one shouldn't have more than 2 children, but that was when I naively believed that the only problem of population was the size of it, not it's distribution, education etc. I left the naive view behind before I hit my teens! Anne |
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Jo wrote: Okay I can't think of anything that can come close to how angry I am about this. I wrote TLC and hope a few other mums do the same. I would love to see some of the dads here write as well. http://www.beliefnet.com/story/194/story_19451_2.html Jo (Ronnie is still nursing strong 13 months!) Well ... the fact that the guy has managed to father 8 kids would suggest that HE isn't too horribly turned off by his wife. (And if he's not, what right does he have to suggest that other husbands/fathers must be?) Naomi |
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"Anne Rogers" wrote in message ... Pfffffft! Now there is breakfast cereal on my chin! LOL ... can't say we've done it... but then, we've only had sex 3 times since Will was born. oh my, and I thought things were bad here, I've not been keeping count, but it can't be many more than 10 times, but it's not breastfeeding that's got in the way, it's the fact that with SPD and a hip recoving from injuries, it's just too darn painful, I miss it though and it's a hard thing for us to talk about Anne Oh, welll, that's a relief to know I am not alone! I know it's prolly still classed as early days for me at 9 wks PP, but my idea of a great night in bed is one where the baby stays asleep!! I'm not totally sure what DH thnks of my post-baby body, but he still seems in to it... whereas for me, I'm proud of my changed body, but for totally different reasons - I've managed to grow and sustain a baby, both on the inside and outside. God knows I don't feel sexy tho! I've a baby in the crib next to me, boobs that want to feed anything with a pulse and a head that is happiest when fast asleep on my comfy pillow. My bed is not really the place to put you in the mood as there's invariably baby dribble or breastmilk on the sheets. So no, breastfeeding isn't the soul reason I'm not "up for it". I'm tired, I'm stressed, and until I have been for my check up and coil fitting, terrified of getting pregnant again- breastfeeding put me off sex? LOL, no, sex did that! Lucy |
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"Jo" wrote in message oups.com... Okay I can't think of anything that can come close to how angry I am about this. I wrote TLC and hope a few other mums do the same. I would love to see some of the dads here write as well. http://www.beliefnet.com/story/194/story_19451_2.html Jo (Ronnie is still nursing strong 13 months!) It's just one man's opinion. I'm sure there are others who also feel that way - I believe chinese culture has the man in a much more distant role, but still there are far more who wouldn't agree with this at all. It's like they say, everyone has an opinion... |
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Anne Rogers wrote: The guy has eight children! In a planet with diminishing resources having that many children is a form of pollution. Human beings are not pollution. Children are not trash. Children contribute to society as well as consume. Perhaps his 8th child will discover the cure for cancer or aids. What educated person could justify so many? I know lots of educated people with big families. Perhaps they don't feel the need to justify their reproductive choices. it's also not justified to blame the population explosion on children being born today, it's actually increased life expectancy that causes that. Already many parts of the UK are said to have a defecit of children because the birth rate is too low, though the population of the UK has increased recently, if it were not for immigration the population would be decreasing. Perhaps it would be better if there weren't so many people living in certain parts of the world, but if we all suddenly only have one child we'll just end up with a population that can't support itself. I often wonder what things will be like in China in 20-30 years, once the parents who were only allowed one child become pensioners and that one child has no children of there own because of the huge imbalance of boys and girls. I used to think that one shouldn't have more than 2 children, but that was when I naively believed that the only problem of population was the size of it, not it's distribution, education etc. I left the naive view behind before I hit my teens! Anne I have heard the same of Italy having trouble with their population as well. Wonder if they will reinstate the fornicate under command of the king law? LOL |
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On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 23:27:27 GMT, "kcarmstrong"
wrote: It just goes to show that ignorance is an equal religous group employer. The guy has eight children! In a planet with diminishing resources having that many children is a form of pollution. What educated person could justify so many? He preaches that a wife should place a romantic relationship for her man above a caring relationship for her children because her primary duty is to please him. How incredibly selfish! Educated people have a higher probability to produce educated children. It is therefore their duty to have as many children as they can. We need new ways to deal with overpopulation and to fight pollution. It is probably not the non educated, who are known to breed more, who will help to resolve these problems. I think that the quality of the human species is decreasing because educated people often think that one or two children are enough whereas non-educated people don't stop before they can't have more children. It is a real problem. I believe it will lead to the extinction of our modern societies, like it certainly did for the Mayas and other very advanced civilizations. Anne |
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Jo wrote:
Okay I can't think of anything that can come close to how angry I am about this. I wrote TLC and hope a few other mums do the same. I would love to see some of the dads here write as well. http://www.beliefnet.com/story/194/story_19451_2.html Jo (Ronnie is still nursing strong 13 months!) Wow. Pardon my extremely late, and extremely blunt response, but, what a misogynist *******! -- Cheri Stryker mom to DS1 - 7 yrs, and DS2 - 6 months |
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On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 18:25:41 -0700, FazBeta wrote:
Educated people have a higher probability to produce educated ^^^^^^^^^^ of producing children. It is therefore their duty to have as many children as they can. You'll not be one of them, then. -- Linz YB: 2 years, 11.5kg, 83cm, still breastfed. |
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