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Breastfeeders who pump and give a bottle when out?
cjra wrote: Is there anyone here who does this? I just wonder how common it is. On another board, someone had suggested to avoid offending people by NIP, they pump and give a bottle when they're out. Of course I said this was ludicrous, heck, one of the joys of BF is that my boobs are portable and always ready! But I was shocked by the number of people who said this is what they do. I tried to do it with DD1, primarily because she *would* *not* nurse if there were any distractions. And, once we figured out how to nurse lying down, that is the only way she would feed. I swear, she's still that stubborn, at 5 years old. So, when I knew we'd be away from home a long time- like when we were travelling across country, I brought a couple of bottles. She barely took them (and I ended up pumping with my isis under a blanket on the plane), but it was better than trying to get her to latch on when she didn't want to. DD2 was much more agreeable, so with her I NIP'd. Mary W. |
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Breastfeeders who pump and give a bottle when out?
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"lucy-lu" wrote: I do, but only in certain situations. I go to church every Sunday, and I don't feel comfortable breastfeeding her there. snip As for offending people, I can understand that too - yeah, boobs are convenient, and I'm all in favour of being able to NIP, *but* I also realise there are a few situations, like me at church, where I don't feel it appropriate. There are a lot of elderly people there, and I respect that they were brought up at a time where NIP wasn't done, and so they don't like it. That's fair enough, and I don't want them and me to feel uncomfy - therefore I express just before I go, meaning my boobs don't feel overfull. Do you know for sure that they will even notice you are doing it? I feed DS2 (and fed DS1) every week in church for years. Once the baby is latched on, nobody can tell whether you're nursing him in the Aussie sense or the US sense! In pews, it's pretty hard to watch other people anyway. I've mentioned here before an experience when DS1 was a small baby. I went to a family reunion with some distant relatives of DH. One older gentleman sat next to me, and DS1 wanted a feed at the table. The gentleman didn't see me latch on, and a few minutes later looked at DS1, commenting about him going to sleep. He was a bit embarrassed when I explained that DS1 was having lunch too! -- Chookie -- Sydney, Australia (Replace "foulspambegone" with "optushome" to reply) "Parenthood is like the modern stone washing process for denim jeans. You may start out crisp, neat and tough, but you end up pale, limp and wrinkled." Kerry Cue |
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Breastfeeders who pump and give a bottle when out?
Mary W. wrote: cjra wrote: Is there anyone here who does this? I just wonder how common it is. On another board, someone had suggested to avoid offending people by NIP, they pump and give a bottle when they're out. Of course I said this was ludicrous, heck, one of the joys of BF is that my boobs are portable and always ready! But I was shocked by the number of people who said this is what they do. I tried to do it with DD1, primarily because she *would* *not* nurse if there were any distractions. And, once we figured out how to nurse lying down, that is the only way she would feed. I swear, she's still that stubborn, at 5 years old. Oh man, I am worried about that right now! DD has been fussy all day and the only way she'd nurse was lying down and I panicked that she'd only do that....but last night she did nurse sitting down, and I finally got her to do so tonight. We're flying on Thursday to Switzerland (from texas) and that would be a nightmare. So, when I knew we'd be away from home a long time- like when we were travelling across country, I brought a couple of bottles. She barely took them (and I ended up pumping with my isis under a blanket on the plane), but it was better than trying to get her to latch on when she didn't want to. Ok, I think I'm packing some bottles and a syringe. We still can't get her to take the bottles, but we might have to try. If all else fails she will take the syringe feeding. Let's hope security doesn't take that away. |
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Breastfeeders who pump and give a bottle when out?
lucy-lu wrote: But to me, expressing to go out is ok. A lot of people aren't comfortable NIP, and I can understand that - BFing should never be uncomfortable emotionally,and if it is, find an alternative. Oh, I probably used a poor choice of words. It seemed silly to me to suggest one *should* do it to appease others, since it's basically taking away all the convenience of BF. But honestly if one *chooses* to do so because it makes them happy, that's great. Does that make sense? I was just surprised that so many make that choice, not that it's a bad choice. Also, when you're in a mad shopping.hurry, and trying to feed a newborn who fusses/messes about for ages, it really isn't always practical (I know that might sound bad, but let's face it, we all have those times when we wish they'd have just waited an extra 10 minutes until we'd finished queueing in the supermarket!).When I was first having BF issues, I expressed for the majority of feeds as it was easier than struggling with a baby who didn't want to feed properly every ten minutes, in public. I was embarrassed, stressed and uncomfortable. With a 4oz bottle, I could do a quick dash round the supermarket etc, get her home and try BFing again. Ah yes, there are times when I wish she'd take a bottle so I could do that, but I'm sure even if she did I'd never get around to preparing it to bring along. I've learned to nurse in the sling, and so far that's working, but we'll see as she gets older. She's already getting distracted. As for offending people, I can understand that too - yeah, boobs are convenient, and I'm all in favour of being able to NIP, *but* I also realise there are a few situations, like me at church, where I don't feel it appropriate. There are a lot of elderly people there, and I respect that they were brought up at a time where NIP wasn't done, and so they don't like it. That's fair enough, and I don't want them and me to feel uncomfy - therefore I express just before I go, meaning my boobs don't feel overfull. Are you sure they care? I'm not trying to say you should feel comfortable NIP there, just wondering how likely it is that 'elderly' people are offended. I ask because my parents would be considered elderly (70yo+), and they're the sort ot applaud it. Heck, when I was first struggling to BF in the NICU, my dad was there cheering me on. And, IME, most people of their generation (family and their friends) are the same. I've found that those who tend to give funny looks and are obviously uncomfortable are the younger crowd. |
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Breastfeeders who pump and give a bottle when out?
"cjra" wrote in message ups.com... Is there anyone here who does this? I just wonder how common it is. On another board, someone had suggested to avoid offending people by NIP, they pump and give a bottle when they're out. Of course I said this was ludicrous, heck, one of the joys of BF is that my boobs are portable and always ready! But I was shocked by the number of people who said this is what they do. I remember going in to a work function when H was about 6 mo and meeting up with a lady I sued to work with and her 4mo. We both retired to the comfy chairs in the foyer (it was too crowded in the function room and there were no chairs) and I BF H while she FF her DS. She said "gee I wish I was as coordinated as you. I only bf at home and ff while we're out because its too hard". I think I responded with "oh I find bf easier because I don't have to remember to bring anything". I guess she was doing what she found easiest but it really didn't make sense to me. All I can imagine is that she didn't feel comfortable with bf around the big-wigs from work ... (not that it matters, but most of them seem to think NIP is fine anyway). Amanda |
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Breastfeeders who pump and give a bottle when out?
"FlowerGirl" wrote in message ... I remember going in to a work function when H was about 6 mo and meeting up with a lady I sued to work with and her 4mo Obviously that should read "used to work with" |
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Breastfeeders who pump and give a bottle when out?
FlowerGirl wrote: "FlowerGirl" wrote in message ... I remember going in to a work function when H was about 6 mo and meeting up with a lady I sued to work with and her 4mo Obviously that should read "used to work with" haha I was wracking my brain trying to figure out what you were saying!! A little tired and slow here... Em mama to Micah, 11/14/04 |
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Breastfeeders who pump and give a bottle when out?
Chookie wrote: In article , "lucy-lu" wrote: I do, but only in certain situations. I go to church every Sunday, and I don't feel comfortable breastfeeding her there. snip Do you know for sure that they will even notice you are doing it? I feed DS2 (and fed DS1) every week in church for years. Once the baby is latched on, nobody can tell whether you're nursing him in the Aussie sense or the US sense! In pews, it's pretty hard to watch other people anyway. Funnily (or not) enough, church was the *only* place I never felt comfortable NingIP. It really bugged me that I felt this way -- I couldn't tell if it was my own hangups, or a silent vibe I was getting from other people, or what. Maybe because they had a specified nursing room (and, to be honest, it *was* kind of fun hanging out with other nursing moms; we'd gab away and never listen to the sermon). I'm sure part of it was my sisters' horrified looks the one time I decided to nurse Micah in the pews -- "You're not going to do *that* *HERE*, are you??" and I jumped up and headed for the nursery. :P In any case, for the next kiddo, I'm going to nurse in church. I mean, how much more family-friendly a place should there be? Em mama to Micah, 11/14/04 |
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Breastfeeders who pump and give a bottle when out?
"lucy-lu" I do, but only in certain situations. I go to church every Sunday, and I don't feel comfortable breastfeeding her there. ABout 45 mins into the service, she kicks off for food, and I want to to be able to soothe her quickly, and still be able to concentrate, so I express a bottle that has too much in for her so that I don't run out. I don't mind dumping a couple of ounces if I do too much. so how do you think Mary fed Jesus? sorry, I think not feeding in church is intolerance from the congregation, just like anyone else, if they have a problem with it, they should get over it, and to be honest in a church, even more so, aren't they supposed to be welcoming to all? Had it been a case of not breastfeeding in church, I would rarely if ever go to church, it just happens that one of Ada's regularish feeding times still falls within church time, she only took a bottle for a week. At the moment I'm on a drive to convert church mums to the possibility of feeding past age 1, there is a very strong culture of breastfeeding to age 1, but many people do feed past that age, they just don't tell others about it and feel if they do, they have to make an excuse, so it's boobs out for me! Anne |
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Breastfeeders who pump and give a bottle when out?
Anne Rogers wrote: "lucy-lu" I do, but only in certain situations. I go to church every Sunday, and I don't feel comfortable breastfeeding her there. ABout 45 mins into the service, she kicks off for food, and I want to to be able to soothe her quickly, and still be able to concentrate, so I express a bottle that has too much in for her so that I don't run out. I don't mind dumping a couple of ounces if I do too much. so how do you think Mary fed Jesus? I'm sure that lucy-lu has already figured this out -- it seems like you're sniping, and giving her a hard time for saying that she was doing what she felt most comfortable with. sorry, I think not feeding in church is intolerance from the congregation, just like anyone else, if they have a problem with it, they should get over it, and to be honest in a church, even more so, aren't they supposed to be welcoming to all? Had it been a case of not breastfeeding in church, I would rarely if ever go to church, it just happens that one of Ada's regularish feeding times still falls within church time, she only took a bottle for a week. IME, there are many churches in the US which *aren't* welcoming to all. It appears that you've made this decision to NIP at church to be worth the time/effort on your part -- but realize that other folks might not feel that 'getting comfortable themselves' (e.g., I had a hard time with a let-down if *I* wasn't comfortable) is worth it, nor of being the spokesperson in this venue for 'getting people over it.' At the moment I'm on a drive to convert church mums to the possibility of feeding past age 1, there is a very strong culture of breastfeeding to age 1, but many people do feed past that age, they just don't tell others about it and feel if they do, they have to make an excuse, so it's boobs out for me! So it sounds like the church moms *do* nurse past the age of 1, but that you're interested in getting them to NIP past the age of 1....I think, for me, my interest is in getting people to breastfeed; whether they feel comfortable NIPing is up to them. Caledonia |
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