Dr. Phil

"emilymr" wrote in message
oups.com...
But I guess the question is: is it skankier when she's bigger?

You know, a flirty spaghetti strap with a built in shelf bra looks good on
someone that's not three hundred pounds and needs steel reinforcements on
her brassieres; that's a lesson some of my fellow campus-mates haven't
learned.

I also never wore a two-piece bathing suit until right before I got
married. DH did *alot* to improve my body image.

Thanks to this husband, I'm also wearing stuff that's other than blue jeans
and tshirt, so I understand that; I still don't want to be skanky and it
really drives me beyond bat**** when I see some really nice girls on campus
that are trying to stuff themselves into clothes designed for smaller frames
and end up looking skanky in the process. And of course, there was this girl
in lab the other morning wearing an extra small cashmere shrug-and her
sleeves were gapping from her arm.

Jess

In article ,
Marie wrote:

Personally when teenagers aren't at school, I
see many girls walking past our house showing these rolls of fat and it is
really disgusting, I wonder if they realise what they look like from behind,

I actually appreciate that girls are discovering it's ok if you aren't
stick-thin and don't have a "perfect" body. If it's ok to dress a
certain way for a skinny gal then it's ok to dress that way for a
not-so-skinny gal.

I'm not so sure these girls are "discovering it's ok if you aren't stick-thin"
-- why are they still jamming themselves into clothes that are too tight?
Perhaps they feel they're OK because of the size they're wearing.

The point is ugliness, not weight. If clothes don't fit, they won't flatter
you no matter whether you look like a model or not. I saw a tall slim woman
this week who probably had a model's figure, but her dress stopped halfway
down her thighs because it was at least 2 sizes too small -- you could tell
beccause it wasn't fitting her round the bust. And it was too young a style
-- imagine a 30yo in a 12yo's sun-dress, because that's what it looked like!

I don't see why we should have to pretend fat rolls over jeans are any more
attractive than a builder's smile or a beer gut.

--
Chookie -- Sydney, Australia
(Replace "foulspambegone" with "optushome" to reply)

"In Melbourne there is plenty of vigour and eagerness, but there is
nothing worth being eager or vigorous about."
Francis Adams, The Australians, 1893.

"Marie" wrote in message
I know what she's talking about. And I just don't agree, and if I were
overweight I would feel hurt that my fat rolls would cause someone to
lose their appetite.
I have issues anyway with certain clothes being for certain body
types...usually it's the nice, pretty clothes for the thin women and
big ugly clothes for the bigger women. For most overweight girls,
affordable clothes in their size are ugly and I don't like it. It
shouldn't matter to someone else if they choose to wear a nice pretty
shirt.

And why does the clothing industry insist that an overweight woman wants to
wear vertical stripes, ON EVERYTHING!!!! Sorry, it's a touchy issue for me.
I don't understand why they think we want huge, bright flowers on our
clothes. I am very short too, so the clothing industry also thinks that
because you are overweight, that you are tall also. I hope I haven't
disgusted anyone with my clothing, but I doubt it. I dress pretty
conservatively and wear black most of the time. I used to love clothes, not
anymore until I can get some more weight off.
--
Sue (mom to three girls)

I have heard so many people comment on a "gross" overweight girl they
see wearing tight jeans, or a shorter shirt where her side rolls are
visible, and it's just crushing to me. It's a *person*. If a 110 girl
is allowed to wear it, so should a 200 pound girl.

Marie, I hear you, I have obviously touched a nerve, I'm sorry, I do think
you have got the wrong end of the stick partially, I was actually talking
about 110ish girls! Despite this you still say

"I agree that a bit of breast can be shown, I have no problem with
that, no matter what the style is."

why any bit of flesh we choose that doesn't happen to be a breast, you'd
honestly be happy if I were to walk around with my prepregnancy hipster
jeans just barely fastening, bits flopping about everywhere and a top that
didn't reach, but unhappy if I then showed more than a certain number of
square inches of boob?

Anne

I'm not so sure these girls are "discovering it's ok if you aren't
stick-thin"
-- why are they still jamming themselves into clothes that are too tight?
Perhaps they feel they're OK because of the size they're wearing.

I think someone has finally got the point, I wasn't describing overweight
girls, just normal girls, who no one could ever call fat, but who are
dressing such away that they are actually collecting all the fat together,
they could have looked great in hipster jeans in the right size, so it's not
even the choice of style that is an issue. I think that is what makes it
look specifically gross, because it is over emphasising something you
normally wouldn't want to over emphasise. I see lots of fat people, lots of
cellulite, lots of everything to be honest and that doesn't seem gross.

The point is ugliness, not weight. If clothes don't fit, they won't
flatter
you no matter whether you look like a model or not. I saw a tall slim
woman
this week who probably had a model's figure, but her dress stopped halfway
down her thighs because it was at least 2 sizes too small -- you could
tell
beccause it wasn't fitting her round the bust. And it was too young a
style
-- imagine a 30yo in a 12yo's sun-dress, because that's what it looked
like!

so true, if someone wears a badly fitting bra so you get a bulge hanging
over the top of the cup and then wears a tight or see through top, I find
that rather off putting.

Anne

On Thu, 13 Oct 2005 17:17:51 +0100, "Anne Rogers"
wrote:

Marie, I hear you, I have obviously touched a nerve, I'm sorry, I do think
you have got the wrong end of the stick partially, I was actually talking
about 110ish girls! Despite this you still say

"I agree that a bit of breast can be shown, I have no problem with
that, no matter what the style is."

why any bit of flesh we choose that doesn't happen to be a breast, you'd
honestly be happy if I were to walk around with my prepregnancy hipster
jeans just barely fastening, bits flopping about everywhere and a top that
didn't reach, but unhappy if I then showed more than a certain number of
square inches of boob?

Nono! I wasn't disagreeing with you on that lol I don't think any body
part should be taboo, whether it's boob or fat roll. I'd be happy if
women didn't feel the need to hide themselves while nursing or hide
their rolls. My own daughter pulls my shirt up while nursing so anyone
around gets a nice eyefull.
Ah it doesn't matter anyway lol
Marie

"I agree that a bit of breast can be shown, I have no problem with
that, no matter what the style is."

why any bit of flesh we choose that doesn't happen to be a breast, you'd
honestly be happy if I were to walk around with my prepregnancy hipster
jeans just barely fastening, bits flopping about everywhere and a top that
didn't reach, but unhappy if I then showed more than a certain number of
square inches of boob?

Nono! I wasn't disagreeing with you on that lol I don't think any body
part should be taboo, whether it's boob or fat roll. I'd be happy if
women didn't feel the need to hide themselves while nursing or hide
their rolls. My own daughter pulls my shirt up while nursing so anyone
around gets a nice eyefull.
Ah it doesn't matter anyway lol

but you did make the above comment, or am I very confused, just shows how
easy it is to get confused over the internet, it's a wonderful thing in many
ways, but in can occasionally cause confusions.

Anne