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"Ilena Rose" wrote in message
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From Health Lover, Ilena Rosenthal:

Driving cars innocent kids kill many people. Where are your sympathies for
the kids that drove and killed?

When you are instructed as to possible damage you might do using power
tools, lawnmowers, automobiles, and all the various sides of homopathetic
drugs as well as medicinal drugs do you ever pay attention to them? Or like
others do you ignore it all and say it can't happen to me or my kids. Where
is your rational?

"Peter B" .@. wrote in message ...

"Ilena Rose" wrote in message
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From Health Lover, Ilena Rosenthal:

Driving cars innocent kids kill many people. Where are your sympathies for
the kids that drove and killed?

When you are instructed as to possible damage you might do using power
tools, lawnmowers, automobiles, and all the various sides of homopathetic
drugs as well as medicinal drugs do you ever pay attention to them? Or
like others do you ignore it all and say it can't happen to me or my kids.
Where is your rational?

This ng is about alternative health and the dangers of pharmaceutical drugs.
If there are is a problem with a pharmaceutical drug why should we take it
as par for the course?
Why are people taking these drugs to adjust their moods at all?

Your comments as usual, are inane and stupid.
No doubt you threw "homopathetic drugs" into the mix merely as some form of
sensationalism merely to get a reaction -- your usual irrational MO.

carole
www.conspiracee.com

"carole" wrote in message
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"Peter B" .@. wrote in message ...

"Ilena Rose" wrote in message
...
From Health Lover, Ilena Rosenthal:

Driving cars innocent kids kill many people. Where are your sympathies
for the kids that drove and killed?

When you are instructed as to possible damage you might do using power
tools, lawnmowers, automobiles, and all the various sides of homopathetic
drugs as well as medicinal drugs do you ever pay attention to them? Or
like others do you ignore it all and say it can't happen to me or my
kids. Where is your rational?

This ng is about alternative health and the dangers of pharmaceutical
drugs.
If there are is a problem with a pharmaceutical drug why should we take it
as par for the course?
Why are people taking these drugs to adjust their moods at all?

Your comments as usual, are inane and stupid.
No doubt you threw "homopathetic drugs" into the mix merely as some form
of sensationalism merely to get a reaction -- your usual irrational MO.


PKB? I think so.

It is not about the perceived dangers of Pharmaceutical Drugs at all
although many of your ilk make it thus.

It is supposed to be for alternative meds, not voo doo who do, crystals,
rocks, metals and silica.

You are as guilty as any plus your sense of humor leaves a lot to be
desired.

Maybe if you toe the straight and narrow others will too.

"Bob Officer" wrote in message
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On Wed, 8 Sep 2010 08:56:14 +1000, in misc.health.alternative,
"carole" wrote:


"Peter B" .@. wrote in message ...

"Ilena Rose" wrote in message
...
From Health Lover, Ilena Rosenthal:

Driving cars innocent kids kill many people. Where are your sympathies
for
the kids that drove and killed?

When you are instructed as to possible damage you might do using power
tools, lawnmowers, automobiles, and all the various sides of
homopathetic
drugs as well as medicinal drugs do you ever pay attention to them? Or
like others do you ignore it all and say it can't happen to me or my
kids.
Where is your rational?

This ng is about alternative health and the dangers of pharmaceutical
drugs.


No Carole, there is nothing in the charter about discussion of
dangers of pharmaceutical drugs. You just like to add things which
are unnecessary or inflammatory, don't you?


If there are is a problem with a pharmaceutical drug why should we take it
as par for the course?
Why are people taking these drugs to adjust their moods at all?

Because without them their quality of life suffers.

The problems most people with mental illness, to often, Decide to go
off their medications without the support they need to do so.

Your comments as usual, are inane and stupid.

Are you looking in a mirror again Carole?

No doubt you threw "homopathetic drugs" into the mix merely as some form
of
sensationalism merely to get a reaction -- your usual irrational MO.

You know that think you have about shown to be an idiot? You doing it
again, Carole.


No, this ng is concerned with the uselessness and dangers of drugs, merely
to counter all the pharmaceutical apologists that populate it.
There are only about 1 or 2 real alties in the group, the vast majority
being pro pharmaceutical.

carole
www.conspiracee.com

"Bob Officer" wrote in message
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On Wed, 8 Sep 2010 10:49:52 +1000, in misc.health.alternative,
"carole" wrote:


"Bob Officer" wrote in message
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On Wed, 8 Sep 2010 08:56:14 +1000, in misc.health.alternative,
"carole" wrote:


"Peter B" .@. wrote in message ...

"Ilena Rose" wrote in message
...
From Health Lover, Ilena Rosenthal:

Driving cars innocent kids kill many people. Where are your sympathies
for
the kids that drove and killed?

When you are instructed as to possible damage you might do using power
tools, lawnmowers, automobiles, and all the various sides of
homopathetic
drugs as well as medicinal drugs do you ever pay attention to them? Or
like others do you ignore it all and say it can't happen to me or my
kids.
Where is your rational?

This ng is about alternative health and the dangers of pharmaceutical
drugs.


No Carole, there is nothing in the charter about discussion of
dangers of pharmaceutical drugs. You just like to add things which
are unnecessary or inflammatory, don't you?


If there are is a problem with a pharmaceutical drug why should we take
it
as par for the course?
Why are people taking these drugs to adjust their moods at all?

Because without them their quality of life suffers.

The problems most people with mental illness, to often, Decide to go
off their medications without the support they need to do so.

Your comments as usual, are inane and stupid.

Are you looking in a mirror again Carole?

No doubt you threw "homopathetic drugs" into the mix merely as some form
of
sensationalism merely to get a reaction -- your usual irrational MO.

You know that think you have about shown to be an idiot? You doing it
again, Carole.


No, this ng is concerned with the uselessness and dangers of drugs, merely
to counter all the pharmaceutical apologists that populate it.

It isn't up to you to decide that Carole. The users themselves make
the decision by participation.

Peter b said "No Carole, there is nothing in the charter about discussion
of
dangers of pharmaceutical drugs. You just like to add things which
are unnecessary or inflammatory, don't you?"


There are only about 1 or 2 real alties in the group, the vast majority
being pro pharmaceutical.

Well I happen to be pro-truth. and pro-evidence.

That's all very nice bob, but what happens when the evidence is stolen or
otherwise goes missing?
Do you really think you are in a position to understand how the system
works?

"Outlawing books that tell me how to heal myself (such as Stale Food Versus
Fresh Food) is racketeering activity. What the medical gangsters have done
to Rife, Hoxsey, Gerson, Ivy, Durovic, Privitera, Krebs, Koch, Crane,
Warner, Keller, Ghadiali, Beard, Taylor, Wright, Brodie, Naessens,
Burzynski, Halstead, Richardson, Thurston, Pixley, Bolles and many others
are great crimes, nearly invariably done in the name of "protecting the
public." "


Were is your own evidence about the foot fungus?

That right you have none. and most of what you do post, is basically
nothing but fallacies.

Exactly what I mean bob.
Until you get given evidence, you don't believe anything.

You live in your own little world, and the idea of a bigger picture where
things are manipulated from high up the food chain doesn't compute with you.
You think that showing some peer reviewed study or some randomed controlled
clinical study shows the evidence and that the evidence can never be wrong.
What you don't understand is that there are very few pieces of scientific
evidence that haven't got a opposing view, or that can't be controlled or
manipulated.

carole
www.conspiracee.com

"carole" wrote in
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"Outlawing books that tell me how to heal myself (such as Stale Food
Versus Fresh Food) is racketeering activity. What the medical
gangsters have done to Rife, Hoxsey, Gerson, Ivy, Durovic, Privitera,
Krebs, Koch, Crane, Warner, Keller, Ghadiali, Beard, Taylor, Wright,
Brodie, Naessens, Burzynski, Halstead, Richardson, Thurston, Pixley,
Bolles and many others are great crimes, nearly invariably done in the
name of "protecting the public." "

Let's take a look of those "heroes" then. Rife's been already dealt with
previously, so I won't post about him again.

Hoxsey's herbal treatments include a paste of antimony, zinc and
bloodroot, arsenic, sulfur, and talc for external treatments. There is
also a liquid tonic of licorice, red clover, burdock root, Stillingia
root, barberry, Cascara, prickly ash bark, buckthorn bark, and potassium
iodide to be taken internally.

The paste is very caustic and can burn or scar the skin. The liquid
tonic can cause nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, anxiety, trembling,
abdominal cramps and heart block. Moreover, red clover mimics estrogen,
and would never be suitable for women with estrogen-responsive breast
tumors. None of those have a known effect against cancer, and it's a
matter of record that Hoxey himself died of the cancer his treatment
failed to cure.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoxsey_Therapy

Gerson described his approach in the book A Cancer Therapy: Results of
50 Cases. However, when Gerson's claims were independently evaluated by
the National Cancer Institute (NCI), it was found that Gerson's records
lacked the basic information necessary to systematically evaluate his
claims. The NCI concluded that Gerson's data showed no benefit from his
treatment. The therapy is considered scientifically unsupported and
potentially hazardous. In response the Gerson Institute staff published
a case series in the alternative medical literature; however, the series
suffered from significant methodological flaws, and no independent
entity has been able to reproduce the Gerson Institute's claims.

When a group of 13 patients sickened by elements of the Gerson Therapy
were evaluated in hospitals in San Diego in the early 1980s, all of them
were found to still have active cancer. The Gerson Institute's claimed
"cure rates" have been questioned; an investigation by Quackwatch found
that the Institute's claims of cure were based not on actual
documentation of survival, but on "a combination of the doctor's
estimate that the departing patient has a 'reasonable chance of
surviving,' plus feelings that the Institute staff have about the status
of people who call in." In 1994, a study published in the alternative
medical literature described 18 patients treated for cancer with the
Gerson Therapy. Their median survival from treatment was 9 months. Five
years after receiving the Gerson treatment, 17 of the 18 patients had
died of their cancer, while the one surviving patient had active non-
Hodgkin lymphoma.

The coffee enemas Gerson therapy uses have contributed to the deaths of
at least three people in the United States. Coffee enemas "can cause
colitis (inflammation of the bowel), fluid and electrolyte imbalances,
and in some cases septicaemia." The recommended diet may not be
nutritionally adequate. The diet has been blamed for the deaths of
patients who substituted it for standard medical care.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Gerson

Dr Ivy was taken in by the Durovic brothers who marketed Krebiozen as a
cancer cure. Krebiozen when analyzed was found to be only creatine
monohydrate, which is an amino acid present in all animal tissue and
without value in the treatment of cancer. At the same time. analysis of
samples of the drug as packaged for injection into patients showed that
only mineral oil was present. In 15 years of illegal distribution as an
investigational drug, Krebiozen was tried on thousands of cancer
patients without discernible effects. A National Cancer Institute
committee of 24 leading cancer experts reviewed 504 case histories
provided by Dr. Ivy and found unanimously that Krebiozen was ineffective
as an anti-cancer agent.
http://www.cancertreatmen****ch.org/q/janssen.shtml

Privitera is a convicted criminal, and did 2 months in prison for
selling laetrile, which is a dangerous substance known to have caused
deaths from cyanide poisoning. It has no effect on cancer.

Krebs is the one responsible for laetrile discussed above.

Koch claimed he had synthezised ethylene dione, and marketed it under
the name of "glyoxylide" and claimed that it was an antidote to the
"toxins" that caused every known disease. He claimed 80% cure rate of
diseases such as cancer, tuberculosis and leprosy. Government chemists
testified in 1943 that glyoxylide was indistinguishable from distilled
water.
- Gardner, Fads and Fallacies, 1957

Ghadiali marketed the Spectro-Chrome, and claimed that bathing the body
with different coloured light cured diseases. The value of his treatment
can be seen from the following: "If you are diabetic you eat lots of
starches and brown sugar, and bathe the body alternately with yellow and
magenta light." A son told in court how Ghadiali had advised his father,
a diabetic, to stop taking insulin and give himself doses of colored
light. The father lived three weeks.

"In 1925, when Ghadiali was on a lecture tour, he was arrested in
Seattle and sentenced under the Mann Act to five years in the Atlanta
Penitentiary. He later published a two-volume work, Railroading a
Citizen, in which he blamed this unjust "persecution" on the medical
trusts, the KKK, Catholics, Negroes, Henry Ford, the Department of
Justice, and Great Britain. The book reprints the more sensational parts
of the trial in which his teen-age secretary accuses him of rape,
forcing her into "unnatural practices," and later performing an
abortion. Ghadiali's purpose in reprinting this testimony is to allow
himself a chance to interject comments accusing the girl of lying.
Unfortunately, the impression left on the reader is that the girl was
telling a straightforward story."
- Gardner, Fads and Fallacies, 1957

That should be enough about how worthy those guys in reality are. Just
because some quack makes a claim that they can heal people it does not
mean they are honest. Some are outright charlatans and the rest self-
deluded.

--
Medicine is the only profession that labours incessantly to destroy the
reason for its own existence. -James Bryce

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"carole" wrote in
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"Outlawing books that tell me how to heal myself (such as Stale Food
Versus Fresh Food) is racketeering activity. What the medical
gangsters have done to Rife, Hoxsey, Gerson, Ivy, Durovic, Privitera,
Krebs, Koch, Crane, Warner, Keller, Ghadiali, Beard, Taylor, Wright,
Brodie, Naessens, Burzynski, Halstead, Richardson, Thurston, Pixley,
Bolles and many others are great crimes, nearly invariably done in the
name of "protecting the public." "

Let's take a look of those "heroes" then. Rife's been already dealt with
previously, so I won't post about him again.

Hoxsey's herbal treatments include a paste of antimony, zinc and
bloodroot, arsenic, sulfur, and talc for external treatments. There is
also a liquid tonic of licorice, red clover, burdock root, Stillingia
root, barberry, Cascara, prickly ash bark, buckthorn bark, and potassium
iodide to be taken internally.

The paste is very caustic and can burn or scar the skin. The liquid
tonic can cause nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, anxiety, trembling,
abdominal cramps and heart block. Moreover, red clover mimics estrogen,
and would never be suitable for women with estrogen-responsive breast
tumors. None of those have a known effect against cancer, and it's a
matter of record that Hoxey himself died of the cancer his treatment
failed to cure.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoxsey_Therapy

As noted previously, wikipedia isn't very reliable for anything that
concerns establishment policy.
The current policy is to support pharmaceutical treatments, which has been
going on for a long time as there is big money involved.
If you want to get the real story you need to read other sources such as
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#hoxsey and reviews at
http://www.amazon.com/When-Healing-B.../dp/0892819251

If I was only going to read the wikipedia story, I would agree that Hoxley
was a fraud.
However, there are other sources.

And if you're going to say that some of Hoxley's ingredients were harmful,
how to you explain chemo and radiation?

I won't go into the rest of the healers you've looked up because it will be
the same story --suppression of alternative cures to eliminate the
competition.

carole
www.conspiracee.com

"Bob Officer" wrote in message
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On Wed, 8 Sep 2010 21:58:28 +1000, in misc.health.alternative,
"carole" wrote:






No, this ng is concerned with the uselessness and dangers of drugs,
merely
to counter all the pharmaceutical apologists that populate it.

It isn't up to you to decide that Carole. The users themselves make
the decision by participation.

Peter b said "No Carole, there is nothing in the charter about discussion
of
dangers of pharmaceutical drugs. You just like to add things which
are unnecessary or inflammatory, don't you?"

Which is true, the red herrings you toss in to discussions are
designed to do exactly what?

Read what you wrote before my response, moron.



There are only about 1 or 2 real alties in the group, the vast majority
being pro pharmaceutical.

Well I happen to be pro-truth. and pro-evidence.

That's all very nice bob, but what happens when the evidence is stolen or
otherwise goes missing?

What evidence are you talking about, Carole. you mean the stuff you
keep calling suppressed which can be found by the hundreds of books
and web sites?

Remember rummy's quote - There are things we know we know, things we know we
don't know, and things we don't know that we don't know.
These books would fall into the "things we know we don't know" category. ie
the knowledge is there but the practise of it is suppressed.
They DDT it with propaganda, and exile the treatments to mexico then do
writeups in conventional sources to say it didn't work.


Really Carole? You don't have a clue. Evidence which is missing will
stand out like a glaring red light, just because it is missing. Like
a line of prose with a word missing, the Evidence tells a story, the
missing evidence will be just like the missing word. One need not
make up through speculation and conspiracy wishes missing evidence..

There are intelligence agencies which run around the world finding and
confiscating evidence of anything that is to be kept from the public, for
whatever contrived reason that best fits with plausible deniability, ie
"concern for the public good", "making the world a safer place", "national
security" ...take your pick.


Do you really think you are in a position to understand how the system
works?

I am in a far better position than you, are Carole, because I can
understand what I read. I understand the evidence and the
technicalities and the "Jargon" as you call it often which is the
Precision of the Language developed to discuss the evidence.

No, I don't think you're in a better position unfortunately because as a
skeptic you look for any reasons to discredit anything that doesn't fit in
with the status quo.
You are a "yes" man posing as an independent thinker.


"Outlawing books that tell me how to heal myself (such as Stale Food
Versus
Fresh Food) is racketeering activity.

Fallacy, you haven't shown books actually tell you how to heal
yourself.

What the medical gangsters have done
to Rife, Hoxsey, Gerson, Ivy, Durovic, Privitera, Krebs, Koch, Crane,

Sorry We already debunk the claims to show that Rife's story isn't
how you and others presented it Carole.

You really need to ditch your skeptic dictionary bob.
"Debunking" ...what does that tell us?
That you (as a skeptic) have decided using your little (inadequate)
processes that some therapy or theory isn't valid.



Warner, Keller, Ghadiali, Beard, Taylor, Wright, Brodie, Naessens,
Burzynski, Halstead, Richardson, Thurston, Pixley, Bolles and many others
are great crimes, nearly invariably done in the name of "protecting the
public." "

Who are you citing about, Carole. and many of those people you claim
as visionaries were crackpots. (Young and Kock)

Take them one by one and I'll look into them.
I'm not going to do the whole list ...one will do for now.
And don't use conventional sources to look them up, or wikipedia, the
establishment approved encyclopedia.



Were is your own evidence about the foot fungus?

That right you have none. and most of what you do post, is basically
nothing but fallacies.

Exactly what I mean bob.
Until you get given evidence, you don't believe anything.

Which is how science works carole. your anecdotal account is called a
story unless backed by evidence. In all things, the burden of proof
is the onus of the claimant.

There are problems with that MO though - the evidence can be confiscated,
there may be reasons such as expense that don't allow satisfactory tests, or
the science might not agree with conventional thinking, a whole list of
reasons for no evidence - and vice versa. Things WITH evidence may not be
satisfactory for various reasons.


You live in your own little world, and the idea of a bigger picture where
things are manipulated from high up the food chain doesn't compute with
you.

You do not understand I do see the bigger picture. I understand how
the system works and work with it. It is why I am successful person.

It all depends on your definition of success - different people have
different definitions.

All societies develop systems and methods. What you claim as
conspiracy is just you anto-social behavior.

Oh so you're into playing "blame the victim". Its not the fault of the
corrupt system, its the fault of the person talking about it.


You think that showing some peer reviewed study or some randomed
controlled
clinical study shows the evidence and that the evidence can never be
wrong.

No It could be wrong. when it is wrong it will be shown to be wrong
sooner or later. that reason it will show up wrong sooner or later is
because those test and data should be tested and replicated and if
they are not in agreement then we know something is wrong.

Maybe but in the meantime?


That's why when you cite a web page which shows the only person which
could even preform the tests or see the results claimed was just one
person, it is self-evidence that something isn't right.

What you don't understand is that there are very few pieces of scientific
evidence that haven't got a opposing view, or that can't be controlled or
manipulated.

Sorry, Carole that is your claim, it is up to you to prove it.


carole
www.conspiracee.com

"carole" wrote in
news
"Outlawing books that tell me how to heal myself (such as Stale Food
Versus Fresh Food) is racketeering activity. What the medical
gangsters have done to Rife, Hoxsey, Gerson, Ivy, Durovic,
Privitera, Krebs, Koch, Crane, Warner, Keller, Ghadiali, Beard,
Taylor, Wright, Brodie, Naessens, Burzynski, Halstead, Richardson,
Thurston, Pixley, Bolles and many others are great crimes, nearly
invariably done in the name of "protecting the public." "

Let's take a look of those "heroes" then. Rife's been already dealt
with previously, so I won't post about him again.

Hoxsey's herbal treatments include a paste of antimony, zinc and
bloodroot, arsenic, sulfur, and talc for external treatments. There
is also a liquid tonic of licorice, red clover, burdock root,
Stillingia root, barberry, Cascara, prickly ash bark, buckthorn bark,
and potassium iodide to be taken internally.

The paste is very caustic and can burn or scar the skin. The liquid
tonic can cause nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, anxiety, trembling,
abdominal cramps and heart block. Moreover, red clover mimics
estrogen, and would never be suitable for women with
estrogen-responsive breast tumors. None of those have a known effect
against cancer, and it's a matter of record that Hoxey himself died
of the cancer his treatment failed to cure.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoxsey_Therapy

As noted previously, wikipedia isn't very reliable for anything that
concerns establishment policy.

As noted previously, you only have empty assertions about your claim,
but evidence is missing. Please also remember I do check the references,
and wikipedia editors cannot change the contents of external links.

The current policy is to support pharmaceutical treatments, which has
been going on for a long time as there is big money involved.
If you want to get the real story you need to read other sources such
as http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#hoxsey and reviews at
http://www.amazon.com/When-Healing-Becomes-Crime-
Alternative/dp/0892819
251

Healing is not a crime - huckstering stuff that cannot work and can be
dangerous for big bucks IS.

If I was only going to read the wikipedia story, I would agree that
Hoxley was a fraud.
However, there are other sources.

Find me an other source that says Hoxley did not die of cancer -
complete with the death certificate showing some other cause.

The fact that Hoxley himself died of cancer shows his treatment was
ineffective. The same goes for Hulda Clark.

And if you're going to say that some of Hoxley's ingredients were
harmful, how to you explain chemo and radiation?

Tu quoque fallacy.

Nobody's claimed chemo is completely harmless, but it has been shown to
have a beneficial effect, unlike Hoxley's quackery.

I won't go into the rest of the healers you've looked up because it
will be the same story --suppression of alternative cures to eliminate
the competition.

LOL. Run, carole, run. Don't look into anything, just stay the dumb
believer that you are.

The reality is that some of those "cures" are either useless or
downright harmful, laetrile being a good example. I fully support
prosecuting charlatans who peddle harmful "cures" to the gullible.

Look up Ghadiali, btw. Maybe you like sexual predators, but I don't. He
did 5 years in jail for violating the Mann Act. The case is Ghadiali v.
United States, 9 Cir., 17 F.2d 236

"In 1925, when Ghadiali was on a lecture tour, he was arrested in
Seattle and sentenced under the Mann Act to five years in the Atlanta
Penitentiary. He later published a two-volume work, Railroading a
Citizen, in which he blamed this unjust "persecution" on the medical
trusts, the KKK, Catholics, Negroes, Henry Ford, the Department of
Justice, and Great Britain. The book reprints the more sensational parts
of the trial in which his teen-age secretary accuses him of rape,
forcing her into "unnatural practices," and later performing an
abortion. Ghadiali's purpose in reprinting this testimony is to allow
himself a chance to interject comments accusing the girl of lying.
Unfortunately, the impression left on the reader is that the girl was
telling a straightforward story."
- Gardner, Fads and Fallacies, 1957

--
The trouble with the World is that the stupid are so confident
while the intelligent are full of doubt. -Bertrand Russell

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On 9/9/10 10:04 AM, carole wrote:
wrote in message
. 16.121...
wrote in
nd.com:


"Outlawing books that tell me how to heal myself (such as Stale Food
Versus Fresh Food) is racketeering activity. What the medical
gangsters have done to Rife, Hoxsey, Gerson, Ivy, Durovic, Privitera,
Krebs, Koch, Crane, Warner, Keller, Ghadiali, Beard, Taylor, Wright,
Brodie, Naessens, Burzynski, Halstead, Richardson, Thurston, Pixley,
Bolles and many others are great crimes, nearly invariably done in the
name of "protecting the public." "

Let's take a look of those "heroes" then. Rife's been already dealt with
previously, so I won't post about him again.

Hoxsey's herbal treatments include a paste of antimony, zinc and
bloodroot, arsenic, sulfur, and talc for external treatments. There is
also a liquid tonic of licorice, red clover, burdock root, Stillingia
root, barberry, Cascara, prickly ash bark, buckthorn bark, and potassium
iodide to be taken internally.

The paste is very caustic and can burn or scar the skin. The liquid
tonic can cause nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, anxiety, trembling,
abdominal cramps and heart block. Moreover, red clover mimics estrogen,
and would never be suitable for women with estrogen-responsive breast
tumors. None of those have a known effect against cancer, and it's a
matter of record that Hoxey himself died of the cancer his treatment
failed to cure.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoxsey_Therapy

As noted previously, wikipedia isn't very reliable for anything that
concerns establishment policy.
The current policy is to support pharmaceutical treatments, which has been
going on for a long time as there is big money involved.

The current treatments have also been shown to work clinically.

If you want to get the real story you need to read other sources such as
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#hoxsey and reviews at
http://www.amazon.com/When-Healing-B.../dp/0892819251

If I was only going to read the wikipedia story, I would agree that Hoxley
was a fraud.
However, there are other sources.

What other sources? References and evidence that it works, please.

Alternative medicine really means unproven medicine. This certainly is
the case with the Hoxley treatment.

And if you're going to say that some of Hoxley's ingredients were harmful,
how to you explain chemo and radiation?

They work by killing cancerous cells. And, they have proven tract
records. Modern medicine (including surgery) cures about 80% of kids
with cancer.

I won't go into the rest of the healers you've looked up because it will be
the same story --suppression of alternative cures to eliminate the
competition.

You've got the wrong words in the last sentence: "cures" is
inappropriate because those treatments don't work; competition is also
inappropriate - a better phrase would be "unproven treatments that don't
work and waste people's time and resources."

Jeff

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