Rant: Over indulgent parents strike again

On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 15:09:38 GMT,
(wrestleantares) wrote:

Case in point, I was picked on a bit until 7th grade. Why? I was
very small.

I doubt it. That may have been what initiated it, but from my
personal experience, and most of what I have read supports the idea
that they bullied you because you allowed it to happen. However, I
admit, I don't know your personal experience.

Moron. What do you tell your daughter when she gets raped by some
child molester when she is 6. It is her fault because she allowed it
to happen. What a piece of work you are.

Nate Nagel wrote in news:4001f66c_2
@newsfeed.slurp.net:

I doubt at this late date I would even care about missing three days of
school, nor would anyone else.


What would have your fellow tamborine players thought of you not getting
your perfect attendence award that year?

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(Rob Kleinschmidt) wrote in
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I was just wondering, would this count as Darwinism in Action ?

You know, taking out classmates who are slow to flee or take cover
or fail to properly camoflage themselves ?


Now that's just durn good thinking...

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On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 09:30:45 -0600,
(Matthew Russotto) wrote:

In article ,
DTJ wrote:

Case in point, I was picked on a bit until 7th grade. Why? I was
very small. Why did it stop? Christmas vacation I got a weight set.
Perfect age. Next asshole who tried to pick on me understood what it
was like to be on the receiving end of a darth vader style throat lock
against a locker.

You did it without touching them, like Vader? :-)

Nope. One day I was unable to lift the bar over my head. Two weeks
later I could clean and jerk 110 pounds repetitively without strain.
Perfect age for lifting. By high school I could bench press 380
pounds, so there goes the theory of whatever teacher-asshole thought
it was because I stood up for myself. No, the reason is, when bullies
see you grab some kid by the neck, lift him up, place him against the
lockers hard enough that he gets a nose bleed, and hold him there
until 3 male gym teachers somehow manage to separate your fingers from
his throat - it appears to have some effect on the bad guys.

Funny thing is, had the same asshole gym teachers done their job
instead of picking on all the small kids, encouraging the bullies to
pick on the small kids, and laughing when the small kids got beat, the
one I took out would not have been in the hospital for the next few
days. He recovered, but tended to walk the other way when he saw me
after that.

On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 15:56:50 GMT, (Brent P)
wrote:

How have things "gone for the worse" when schools are
no longer teaching computer languages that you say are
dead and obsolete?

Because they are no longer teaching programming at all as stated
by the person I was responding to. DUH. Today they should probably
be teaching C and VB. BASIC isn't obsolete as a learner language
either. Fortran, as old as it is, will still be useful for anyone
going into an engineering / research field and could serve as an
alternative for BASIC.

The person you were responding to is the same idiot that asked how
things are worse. Can't even follow his own thoughts I guess.

And you are right. The high school nearest to me uses Visual C++,
Visual Basic and JAVA. Not that anyone in the industry would use such
archaic languages. :-D Not that my experience developing software
using those tools has any bearing. Not that my project experience
includes managing a major ERP implementation in 6 months that
everybody said couldn't be done in less than a year. Not that another
company I worked at released six major updates in a year, all bug free
except for one, which was due to an unexpected data condition that was
not handled by the developer I replaced. No, I wouldn't be qualified
to teach.

On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 16:13:40 GMT, (Brent P)
wrote:

It did a very good job of blaming the whole thing on faults in the
victims' skill base and personality. How wonderful. Don't be different,
be like everyone else and you won't have a problem. If you are different,
if your skills have a different distribution, oh well.

Just another problem with schools. Conform or die.

On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 17:04:45 GMT,
(wrestleantares) wrote:

I
personally risked expulsion from two different schools in order to
keep from being bullied.

You must really be an ugly, stupid, small, asshole kid to be bullied
in two schools. What did you do, tease the bullies? Or did you start
it every time by kicking the bullies in the teeth?

On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 18:21:20 GMT,
(wrestleantares) wrote:

I was 5' 4" and under 100 pounds and being bullied by a large number
of athletes on one particular team. I went directly to their locker
room at a time when I knew the coach was not there, and directly
challenged all of them to meet me off campus. I told them I would
take them all on as a group or individually if they felt like they had
that much of a problem with me that they constantly had to bully me.

It was a measured risk, and it worked. That was my most audacious
moment.

You are leaving out how they stuffed you into the toilet, and laughed
so hard they were unable to kick your ass.

On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 11:17:39 -0800, Ignasi Palou-Rivera
wrote:

Because they are no longer teaching programming at all as stated
by the person I was responding to. DUH. Today they should probably
be teaching C and VB. BASIC isn't obsolete as a learner language
either. Fortran, as old as it is, will still be useful for anyone
going into an engineering / research field and could serve as an
alternative for BASIC.

If it was only in HS it would be OK, but a lot of undergrad college
engineering curricula barely touches any programming anymore. And
writing Excel macros is not real programming.

SIGH. This is either not true, or you are making a specious claim.
All colleges that offer a COMPUTER ENGINEERING degree have
significantly more than "bare" bones programming. A degree in
MECHANICAL ENGINEERING DOES NOT REQUIRE EXTENSIVE
KNOWLEDGE OF C++, FORTRAN, or BASIC. If one desires, they can always
do a double major. DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.

On 15 Jan 2004 13:55:44 -0800, (Roger Dodger)
wrote:

Hey Roger boy, learn to quote people correctly. Otherwise I will be
forced to remove your computer from the Internet as punishment.

DTJ wrote in message . ..
On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 01:34:53 GMT, Charles Soto
wrote:

Columbine could have been avoided if some of the other kids had just
beat the **** out of the whackos a bit more often.

Columbine was a result of the other kids beating the **** out of the
whackos one time too many.

No. Other kids were "mean to them." Called them names.

I did not say that. Note the number of indents....

And physically abused them to the point of mental breakdown.
That's when they became whackos. And these kids were not the
only victims. If you ask the non-jock students and ex-students
of that school, and even some of the teachers, most will admit
that bullying was out of control for many years.

The insanity also started with compulsory attendance laws.
If you stay at home, because of bullies, you get penalized.
Not the bullies. If you fight back, you get penalized.
So the tension builds until the victims "fight back" with
murder.

You got this part right.

No, Columbine was what assholes kids deserve when they
think they are better than others (especially those who
know how to buy guns!).

Too bad some innocent people who were probably also bullying
victims had to die, too.

Personally, I have little sympathy for them. From what the FBI
investigation found, not only was virtually every kid in Columbine
harassing them, so were the teachers. I only wish they could have
taken out more of the bad guys, so that the remaining bullies in the
country would learn.

And please, let's not whine about my comment everyone. The fact is,
sometimes it is better to kill a few, to save a lot more. Iraq for
instance. We killed a bunch of Iraqis, but saved millions more.