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On vaccine dangers from a vaccine damage victim.
Dear Group, Some of you all seem as biased towards vaccines as we anti-vaccine activists seem biased against them. I am a different sort of anti-vaccine activist, I suffer from vaccine damage. Therefore I need not leaf through voluminous literature to know that vaccines can be highly dangerous. I question the very concept of vaccines. Vaccines do not strengthen our immune system, they simply compromise it by introducing another disease state. This fact was well brought out by Dr Burnett in his book, "Thuja as a cure for vaccinosis". A healthy person, he argued, cannot be made more healthy with a vaccine. Rather the chemical composition of the body is changed by introducing diseased puss. Dr Burnett said this sometime in the late 40's. At that time it was not generally known that there is much more to vaccines than diseased puss. Today Dr Burnett would have probably said, you cannot make a healthy person more healthy by introducing in him diseased puss, animal serum, animal tissues, heavy metals, carcinogens and proven toxins. I hope all sane and educated people in this forum will agree to this. Instead of pooh poohing the claims of the anti-vaccine lobby why does not the medical establishment carry out the required long term tests? What are they afraid of? The tests required are; 1. Long term tests (over 20/25 years) on a large subject base composing of components from all constitution types, all races, all countries. 2. Tests comparing a vaccinated population with a non vaccinated population. 3. Individual long term test on the total quantity of each vaccine ingredient injected during the vaccination procedure. 4. Testing how the vaccine ingredients (in their total quantity injected) interact with each other within the body. 5. Testing the effect of multiple vaccinations. While thimerosal is largely being banned in US and European countries, the vaccine manufacturers regularly push vaccines heavily laced with thimerosal into third world countries. This itself proves that the medical industry is more concerned about the marketing and profit aspect of vaccines then any concern for the welfare of the worlds children. While the US and European countries largely operate on informed consent, the population of third world countries, and sometimes even the doctors, do not have an inkling about probable vaccine dangers. Again a case of business acumen ruling over profits. Spreading awareness about vaccine dangers would lead to increased profits, falling sales and increased legal costs. These factors would definitely affect profits. As per vaccination protocol, sick children, malnourished children, underweight children, children of parents with autoimmune disorders, children suffering from autoimmune disorders, children or adults with serious skin problems should not be vaccinated. Again vaccines should be resorted to when there is a REAL threat of an epidemic. Are these rules followed? Certainly not in third world countries where all children would fall under one or more of the above categories. So, is the vaccine industry and the medical industry acting responsibly? In India a person is free to choose his method of treatment as per the law. However the entire population is forcibly vaccinated. We all know that vaccines introduce a permanent and unstudied disease state. This changed condition of the body makes it difficult for alternative practitioners to treat their patients. Therefore vaccination ensures that people are forced to fall back upon the system of suppressive medication which has ruined their health in the first instance. This is a grave infrindgement of human rights. According to me whoever insists that the medical industry is interested in improving the health of the population is either a fool or a blatant lier. Regards, Jagannath. |
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On vaccine dangers from a vaccine damage victim.
wrote in message oups.com... According to me whoever insists that the medical industry is interested in improving the health of the population is either a fool or a blatant lier. Yes, and vaccination is the biggest hoax of the last 2 centuries http://www.whale.to/b/hoax1.html |
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On vaccine dangers from a vaccine damage victim.
wrote in message oups.com... Dear Group, Some of you all seem as biased towards vaccines as we anti-vaccine activists seem biased against them. I am a different sort of anti-vaccine activist, I suffer from vaccine damage. Therefore I need not leaf through voluminous literature to know that vaccines can be highly dangerous. I question the very concept of vaccines. Vaccines do not strengthen our immune system, they simply compromise it by introducing another disease state. This fact was well brought out by Dr Burnett in his book, "Thuja as a cure for vaccinosis". A healthy person, he argued, cannot be made more healthy with a vaccine. Rather the chemical composition of the body is changed by introducing diseased puss. I think Mr. Burnett is in the wrong century. Today's vaccines are made in the laboratory. They do not contain any puss. Mr. Burnett should get an education in modern immunology. The book from Mr. Burnett is published by a vanity press. It is hard to find. That is a good thing. Jeff garbage deleted |
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On vaccine dangers from a vaccine damage victim.
"john" wrote in message ... wrote in message oups.com... According to me whoever insists that the medical industry is interested in improving the health of the population is either a fool or a blatant lier. Yes, and vaccination is the biggest hoax of the last 2 centuries http://www.whale.to/b/hoax1.html A hoax? There is no more smallpox or polio in the US. Polio cases in the world are near an all-time low. Measles and mumps are very rare in vaccinated countries. So are kids who are harmed by maternal rubella. Kids are dying from chicken pox much more rarely. Bacterial meningitis is much more rare. All because of vaccination. The only hoax here is that whale.to site. It is clearly written by someone who doesn't understand science, medicine or vaccines. jeff |
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On vaccine dangers from a vaccine damage victim.
jeff is our resident pharma shill http://www.whale.to/m/putz.html
"Jeff" wrote in message ink.net... wrote in message oups.com... Dear Group, Some of you all seem as biased towards vaccines as we anti-vaccine activists seem biased against them. I am a different sort of anti-vaccine activist, I suffer from vaccine damage. Therefore I need not leaf through voluminous literature to know that vaccines can be highly dangerous. I question the very concept of vaccines. Vaccines do not strengthen our immune system, they simply compromise it by introducing another disease state. This fact was well brought out by Dr Burnett in his book, "Thuja as a cure for vaccinosis". A healthy person, he argued, cannot be made more healthy with a vaccine. Rather the chemical composition of the body is changed by introducing diseased puss. I think Mr. Burnett is in the wrong century. Today's vaccines are made in the laboratory. They do not contain any puss. Mr. Burnett should get an education in modern immunology. The book from Mr. Burnett is published by a vanity press. It is hard to find. That is a good thing. Jeff garbage deleted |
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On vaccine dangers from a vaccine damage victim.
"john" wrote in message ... jeff is our resident pharma shill http://www.whale.to/m/putz.html Wow! My own page! I see the author of the page is good at name-calling. If only she could learn about science and medicine! Thanks for the laughs. Jeff "Jeff" wrote in message ink.net... wrote in message oups.com... Dear Group, Some of you all seem as biased towards vaccines as we anti-vaccine activists seem biased against them. I am a different sort of anti-vaccine activist, I suffer from vaccine damage. Therefore I need not leaf through voluminous literature to know that vaccines can be highly dangerous. I question the very concept of vaccines. Vaccines do not strengthen our immune system, they simply compromise it by introducing another disease state. This fact was well brought out by Dr Burnett in his book, "Thuja as a cure for vaccinosis". A healthy person, he argued, cannot be made more healthy with a vaccine. Rather the chemical composition of the body is changed by introducing diseased puss. I think Mr. Burnett is in the wrong century. Today's vaccines are made in the laboratory. They do not contain any puss. Mr. Burnett should get an education in modern immunology. The book from Mr. Burnett is published by a vanity press. It is hard to find. That is a good thing. Jeff garbage deleted |
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On vaccine dangers from a vaccine damage victim.
"Jeff" wrote in message Wow! My own page! I see the author of the page is good at name-calling. If only she could learn about science and medicine! Thanks for the laughs. Jeff I'll ignore the fact you have known about it for years. If you enjoyed it so much may I suggest you put it as your tag line? You used to be P.Utz, so I am sure you don't mind my abbreviation, after all, you invented it, how apt is that cheers |
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On vaccine dangers from a vaccine damage victim.
"john" wrote in message ... "Jeff" wrote in message Wow! My own page! I see the author of the page is good at name-calling. If only she could learn about science and medicine! Thanks for the laughs. Jeff I'll ignore the fact you have known about it for years. If you enjoyed it so much may I suggest you put it as your tag line? You used to be P.Utz, so I am sure you don't mind my abbreviation, after all, you invented it, how apt is that Actually, it is name calling. I never have been P. Utz. Jeff cheers |
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On vaccine dangers from a vaccine damage victim.
"Jeff" wrote in message ink.net... "john" wrote in message ... "Jeff" wrote in message Wow! My own page! I see the author of the page is good at name-calling. If only she could learn about science and medicine! Thanks for the laughs. Jeff I'll ignore the fact you have known about it for years. If you enjoyed it so much may I suggest you put it as your tag line? You used to be P.Utz, so I am sure you don't mind my abbreviation, after all, you invented it, how apt is that Actually, it is name calling. I never have been P. Utz. Jeff Jeffrey P. Utz, M.D. http://www.msu.edu/~utz/ |
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On vaccine dangers from a vaccine damage victim.
"john" wrote in message ... "Jeff" wrote in message ink.net... "john" wrote in message ... "Jeff" wrote in message Wow! My own page! I see the author of the page is good at name-calling. If only she could learn about science and medicine! Thanks for the laughs. Jeff I'll ignore the fact you have known about it for years. If you enjoyed it so much may I suggest you put it as your tag line? You used to be P.Utz, so I am sure you don't mind my abbreviation, after all, you invented it, how apt is that Actually, it is name calling. I never have been P. Utz. Jeff Jeffrey P. Utz, M.D. http://www.msu.edu/~utz/ Only an ass would think the name is P. Utz. Clearly, the first name is "Jeffrey," the middle initial "P." and the last name "Utz." Unitl now, I have never seen someone who is stupid enough to call someone by his or her middle initial and last name, unless that person does by his middle name instead of his first name. For example, if I went by Patrick instead of Jeff, then I would I could also be P. Utz. But I don't go by Patrick. I have never been P. Utz (I notice you left out the space between P. and Utz, too). Putz is a derogatory Yiddish word. Jeff |
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