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"LadyLollipop" wrote in message news:hBwge.71615$r53.16627@attbi_s21... "Mark Probert" Mark wrote in message ... "LadyLollipop" wrote in message news:mmpge.74270$WI3.66141@attbi_s71... "Mark Probert" Mark wrote in message ... "LadyLollipop" wrote in message news:4Kbge.69305$r53.42743@attbi_s21... "Mark Probert" Mark wrote in message ... The CSPI monograph on AD/HD refers to several of these studies. The model used was double blind, cross-over challenge. For one thing, sugar having a role was soundly debunked. While that is true, sugar certain does make kids hyper!!!!! Not necessarily YES ALWAYS!!!!!!!!!!! Forget any crossover study, ask any teacher!!!!!!!! I have. They agree with me. There are MANY factors that will affect what I like to call situational hyperactivity. Example: A child attends a day camp which has several activity periods. First period: Playground Second period: Free swimming Third period: Free play Fourth period: Arts & Crafts. A&C teacher tells parents kid is hyperactive after kid has had three periods of unstructured activity. Camp is a bit different than daycare. For example a Halloween Party. On a rainy day. So, the kiddies were confined and could not burn off their excess energy by playing outside. LL/Jan . In the crossover challenge studies, kids whose parents "absolutely knew when they had consumed sugar" were given either a placebo or sugar, and then switched. The parents were not able to accurately select those times when the kids got sugar. LL/Jan "Beth Kevles" wrote in message ... Hi -- I'd be curious to know about the studies that 00doc cites, about the parents who couldn't tell if their kids had been given "trigger" foods. Do you have the cites available? By the way, I'll strongly second the notion of having some sort of a double-blind test of trigger foods before accepting a diagnosis of food intolerance. --Beth Kevles http://web.mit.edu/kevles/www/nomilk.html -- a page for the milk-allergic Disclaimer: Nothing in this message should be construed as medical advice. Please consult with your own medical practicioner. NOTE: No email is read at my MIT address. Use the AOL one if you would like me to reply. |
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"LadyLollipop" wrote in message news:TUzge.75012$c24.55108@attbi_s72... "Jeff" wrote in message nk.net... "LadyLollipop" wrote in message news:s3wge.72386$NU4.1341@attbi_s22... "Mark Probert" Mark wrote in message (...) In the area of AD/HD research, citing a book, etc. written 1998 is the equivalent of citing King Tut. Mark is correct that the info in a book from about 8 years ago (a book is typically about a year out of date when it is published) is old. Mark diverted from the subject. Who brought up the subject of the book in the first place? You. Mark's comment were appropriate. In addition, there was a lot of information that indicated that ADHD was a real problem involving the biochemistry of the brain, even back in 1997. What Mark stated was:The DSM IV clearly delineates the diagnostic criteria for AD/HD. And you posted info that suggested that ADHD was not a biological condition. Your diversionary tactics did not work. ... |
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"Mark Probert" Mark wrote in message news "LadyLollipop" wrote in message news:hBwge.71615$r53.16627@attbi_s21... "Mark Probert" Mark wrote in message ... "LadyLollipop" wrote in message news:mmpge.74270$WI3.66141@attbi_s71... "Mark Probert" Mark wrote in message ... "LadyLollipop" wrote in message news:4Kbge.69305$r53.42743@attbi_s21... "Mark Probert" Mark wrote in message ... The CSPI monograph on AD/HD refers to several of these studies. The model used was double blind, cross-over challenge. For one thing, sugar having a role was soundly debunked. While that is true, sugar certain does make kids hyper!!!!! Not necessarily YES ALWAYS!!!!!!!!!!! Forget any crossover study, ask any teacher!!!!!!!! I have. They agree with me. There are MANY factors that will affect what I like to call situational hyperactivity. Example: A child attends a day camp which has several activity periods. First period: Playground Second period: Free swimming Third period: Free play Fourth period: Arts & Crafts. A&C teacher tells parents kid is hyperactive after kid has had three periods of unstructured activity. Camp is a bit different than daycare. For example a Halloween Party. On a rainy day. So, the kiddies were confined and could not burn off their excess energy by playing outside. SUGAR MAKES KIDS HYPER!!! LL/Jan . In the crossover challenge studies, kids whose parents "absolutely knew when they had consumed sugar" were given either a placebo or sugar, and then switched. The parents were not able to accurately select those times when the kids got sugar. LL/Jan "Beth Kevles" wrote in message ... Hi -- I'd be curious to know about the studies that 00doc cites, about the parents who couldn't tell if their kids had been given "trigger" foods. Do you have the cites available? By the way, I'll strongly second the notion of having some sort of a double-blind test of trigger foods before accepting a diagnosis of food intolerance. --Beth Kevles http://web.mit.edu/kevles/www/nomilk.html -- a page for the milk-allergic Disclaimer: Nothing in this message should be construed as medical advice. Please consult with your own medical practicioner. NOTE: No email is read at my MIT address. Use the AOL one if you would like me to reply. |
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"LadyLollipop" wrote in message news:9NMge.76092$c24.13733@attbi_s72... Jan once again demonstrates her inability to carry on a civil discussion or to express an original idea by just reposting what has gone before as if that says it all. Not even one complete sentence was added to this 14Kb of wasted bandwidth. --Rich |
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"Jeff" wrote in message . net... "LadyLollipop" wrote in message news:TUzge.75012$c24.55108@attbi_s72... "Jeff" wrote in message nk.net... "LadyLollipop" wrote in message news:s3wge.72386$NU4.1341@attbi_s22... "Mark Probert" Mark wrote in message (...) In the area of AD/HD research, citing a book, etc. written 1998 is the equivalent of citing King Tut. Mark is correct that the info in a book from about 8 years ago (a book is typically about a year out of date when it is published) is old. Mark diverted from the subject. Who brought up the subject of the book in the first place? You. WRONG. It was contianed in the websites I posted. Mark's comment were appropriate. Mark'ss. comment were a diversion, just like you are doing right now. In addition, there was a lot of information that indicated that ADHD was a real problem involving the biochemistry of the brain, even back in 1997. What Mark stated was:The DSM IV clearly delineates the diagnostic criteria for AD/HD. And you posted info that suggested that ADHD was not a biological condition. Your diversionary tactics did not work. ... In fact YOU are now doing just that! Well known how you LIARS stick together. Marks words: Those websites you posted do not provide factual information. I suggest the American Academy of Pediatrics and the National Institutes of Health. Now Jeff, you can go back and read what I posted and count the times the National Institutes of Health was mentioned. then you can do the right thing and admit you lied and then apologize or not. LL/Jan |
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"LadyLollipop" wrote in message news:_OMge.76122$WI3.19288@attbi_s71... SUGAR MAKES KIDS HYPER!!! .. . . shouts Jan, with no supporting arguement or evidence. Say in your own words, Jan, why you believe this to be so, and how we may determine if it is true. Add something of your own to this group for a change, instead of just kilobytes of repetition. I DO congratulate you on the fact that the above exclamation is a complete sentence, an unusual accomplishment for you. Now it's time to attempt an entire paragraph. --Rich |
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"Rich" wrote in message ... "LadyLollipop" wrote in message news:9NMge.76092$c24.13733@attbi_s72... Once again Rich is off topic atttempting to personally trash., wasting 2kb LL/Jan --Rich |
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"Rich" wrote in message ... "LadyLollipop" wrote in message news:_OMge.76122$WI3.19288@attbi_s71... SUGAR MAKES KIDS HYPER!!! . . . shouts Jan, with no supporting arguement or evidence. Say in your own words, Jan, why you believe this to be so, and how we may determine if it is true. Excuse me, if I have not one shred of confidence in your judgment to determine what is true, as you also do not believe in God and you don't care if Peter lies to this newsgroup, his mother or the pope, neither can you see all the evidence and studies concerning the fact that amalgams do cause mercury poisoning, and you also are a liar, and you as proven by your recent private e-mailing me. You also dodged the issue of you memory problems and did not wish to discuss it. My evidence is based on 38 years of seeing it with my very own eyes, it's called EXPERIENCE! Now there's you paragraph and more. LL/Jan Add something of your own to this group for a change, instead of just kilobytes of repetition. I DO congratulate you on the fact that the above exclamation is a complete sentence, an unusual accomplishment for you. Now it's time to attempt an entire paragraph. --Rich |
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"LadyLollipop" wrote in message news:JdOge.76221$WI3.19235@attbi_s71... "Rich" wrote in message ... "LadyLollipop" wrote in message news:_OMge.76122$WI3.19288@attbi_s71... SUGAR MAKES KIDS HYPER!!! . . . shouts Jan, with no supporting arguement or evidence. Say in your own words, Jan, why you believe this to be so, and how we may determine if it is true. Excuse me, if I have not one shred of confidence in your judgment to determine what is true, as you also do not believe in God and you don't care if Peter lies to this newsgroup, his mother or the pope, neither can you see all the evidence and studies concerning the fact that amalgams do cause mercury poisoning, and you also are a liar, and you as proven by your recent private e-mailing me. You also dodged the issue of you memory problems and did not wish to discuss it. My evidence is based on 38 years of seeing it with my very own eyes, it's called EXPERIENCE! Now there's you paragraph and more. LL/Jan Yes, that is a paragraph of sorts, so I thank you and congratulate you. I won't critique your grammer, because that would be belittling. Now let's see if you can get back to the subject, and do a paragraph on why "sugar makes kids hyper." --Rich |
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