Parents spoofed by school vaccination programs (also: Chiro and hypertension)

CHIRO AND HYPERTENSION: AWESOME BLOOD PRESSURE REDUCTIONS AT AN IN-PATIENT
CHIROPRACTIC FACILITY...


Federal Official Keri and Federal Official Diana
: Please see the very end of this post...


PARENTS SPOOFED BY SCHOOL VACCINATION PROGRAMS

FACT: MDs and schools have been protecting (sending home) vaccine-exempt
children and endangering (keeping at school) vaccinated-but-not-immunized
children for all these years.

Because schools don't know which children were not immunized by their
vaccinations - ALL parents (not just those exempting their children from
vaccination) must be told that during outbreaks ALL children will be sent
home.

ALL parents (not just parents seeking vaccine exemptions) must be told that
outbreaks of disease will mean forced-time-off-from-work and extra expense
for tutors...

In other words, organized medicine's obviously fraudulent Exclusion Day
MD-needle vaccination promotion must end.

Surgeons can tap dance all they want (see Surgeon Peter's tap dancing below)
but organized medicine has for years been engaging in FRAUDULENT vaccination
promotion - and the fraud must end.

NOTE: I am NOT opposed to vaccination - indeed I ADAMANTLY SUPPORT
vaccination - as long as parents are afforded a true choice.


PARENTS: Skip the chiro commentary. Check out Surgeon Peter's tap dance.
It's great!




CHIROPRACTORS: In part because of censorship by Chiro Bouncer Bob (fmr CCA
Pres. Dr. Bob Dubin), the rank-and-file of the chiro trade unions are
missing a GOLDEN opportunity to make the passive immunzation (breastfeeding)
rate SKYROCKET!

CHIRO BOUNCER BOB'S "LUMINARIES"...

Chiro Bouncer Bob recently said on the censored version of chirolist
(chirolist@netlojix): "BTW, I am planning on inviting some luminaries to
the list, now that the disruptive elements are removed, and the dialogue
should be raised to a new level. Stay tuned for some really interesting
changes in this forum."

I know, I know... I'm being "disruptive" here - but mass immunologic child
abuse is being committed by MDs and the chiro trade unions should finally
help expose the fact that ostensibly "pro-immunization" MDs (whose
profession of organized medicine once "scientifically" addicted America to
bottlefeeding) are LYING BY OMISSION thereby STILL denying massive numbers
of babies massive numbers of free daily immunizations that reportedly make
little immune systems and MD-needle vaccinations work better.

MY PRIORITY... There is also the matter of chiro trade union silence (so
far) about my priority - stopping MDs from routinely closing birth canals
and gruesomely (sometimes fatally) manipulating most babies' spines at
birth....

MDs are killing an estimated six babies per DAY with vacuum-assisted spinal
manipulation alone - with birth canals senselessly closed up to 30%...

See USUAL MECHANISM (PS5) in my article, "Pregnant chiro patients: BIZARRE
chiro legislation - babies be damned..."
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/chiro-list/message/2135

I think Chiro Bouncer Bob's problem is that I am also pointing out
CHIROPRACTIC fraud...

See MEDICARE/MEDICAID FRAUD (was PPAC, vaccinations and chiro
bouncer Bob (Bob Dubin, Diplomate, American Board of Chiropractic
Censorship)
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/chiro-list/message/2144

Hey! Maybe some of Chiro Bouncer Bob's "luminaries" will finally address
the CHIROPRACTIC fraud - **in addition** to the sometimes fatal spinal
manipulation medical fraud, etc.! Now THAT would be really interesting!

I'll cc former chirolist luminary (now ACA Chairman) James Edwards, DC via
- again... Maybe Jim's going to be a
chirolist luminary - again. : )

I'll send this out with chiro luminary Chester Wilk, DC
on the "To" line. (Chiro Bouncer Bob recently mentioned Chet.)

ATTENTION Brian : PLEASE post this to the censored
version of chiro-list (or whereever the
censored version lives now) - AND to the CCA and ACA listservs...




SURGEON PETER'S TAP DANCE...

SURGEON PETER **AGAIN** MISSES MY POINT!

Retired Australian Surgeon Peter Moran, MB wrote:

"It is unfair for the immunised to be penalised by missing schooling and
being exposed to any ongoing risks because of a pool of unimmunised."

Earth to Peter! Children NOT immunized by their vaccinations are in your
"immunised" group...

Because of this, ALL children - not just those who have been exempted from
vaccination - must be protected (sent home) during disease outbreaks.

Remember Peter: TRULY immunized children cannot possibly be exposed to
"ongoing risks" from "a pool of unimmunised."

(How funny though that further on, you WANT expose unimmunized children to
"ongoing risks" (see below)...)


Surgeon Peter continued:

"We know that with the more effective vaccines (they vary) a fully immunised
population is virtually immune to epidemic illnesses."

Peter, in again missing my point you make my point: If a population is only
"virtually" immune - then it is NOT fully immune.

Pseudonymous usenet pediatrician "PF Riley, MD" has estimated that 1 in 6
persons are not immunized by their vaccinations! I hope he is wrong!

See Confusing vaccination and immunization (Jane Orient, MD;
also: 'PF Riley, MD')...
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/chiro-list/message/2149



Surgeon Peter continued:

"And apart from confusing the meaning of 'vaccination' and 'immunisation'
further..."

Peter, YOU are confusing the meaning of "vaccination" and "immunisation"!
Some in your "immunised" group were NOT immunized by their vaccinations!



Surgeon Peter continued:

",,,you are probably quite wrong that simply sending all children home
offers protection to anybody."

??????????????????

Surgeon Peter, you also thought I was quite wrong about MDs and MBs closing
birth canals...

To your credit, you finally in effect admitted your error...

See Surgeon under chiropractic care finally starts to grok 'Gastaldo's
nonsense'
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/chiro-list/message/1335

Surgeon Peter, *I* like your idea of using natural disease to immunize - see
below - and I *especially* like the idea of making sure parents have this
CHOICE...

But parents who choose vaccination - esp. parents of
vaccinated-but-not-immunized children might disagree with your idea of using
schools to allow natural disease to immunize! At the very least Peter, can
we agree that diseased/symptomatic children who do not wish to be at school
can go home?

Surgeon Peter continued:

"If the children continue to mingle, it will increase the risk that the
unimmunised will convey disease to other unimmunised children, as well as to
any of the immunised who have not developed full immunity."

LOL! Peter's phrase "immunised who have not developed full immunity" is
MD/MB-FRAUD EUPHEMISM.

FACT: Some of Peter's "immunised" children were NOT immunized by their
vaccinations. Like most MD/MBs, Peter has a problem acknowledging this fact
in the context of the Exclusion Day vaccination fraud.

For the benefit of any MDs/MBs who may not be clear about the Exclusion Day
vaccination fraud:

We don't know WHICH children weren't immunized by their vaccinations - so
ALL children - not just vaccine-exempt children - must be protected (sent
home) during disease outbreaks...

ALL parents - not just those who choose to exempt their children - must hear
that they must miss work and hire tutors during outbreaks. It has been
unfair for MDs and schools to endanger vaccinated-but-not-immunized children
for all these years.

Surgeon Peter concludes:

"If they don't mingle there is no chance of the unimmunised being
'immunised' by natural infections. They will run serious risk of fatal
illness or
serious complications when infected later as adults."


Make up your mind, Peter!

Either...

1. During outbreaks, send all children home to prevent risk of fatal illness
or serious complications in CHILDHOOD; or

2. During outbreaks, **keep everyone in school** (unless they want to go
home) so that - between MD-needle vaccinations and natural disease -
everyone gains protection by ADULTHOOD...

Some parents choose to skip having an MD INTENTIONALLY BREACH their
children's immune systems with a needle.

These parents choose instead to DEPEND on their children's immune systems -
and natural disease (as Surgeon Peter suggests)...

Some parents try to FIND children who are diseased so that their children
might gain immunity via natural disease. (I have heard of "measles
parties.")

My guess is that many of these latter "pro-natural-disease" parents choose
ALSO to give their children FREE DAILY IMMUNIZATIONS (breastfeedings)
because free daily immunizations (breastfeedings) reportedly ACTIVELY help
immune systems be the best they can be...

In contrast, ostensibly "proimmunization" MDs LIE BY OMISSION thereby
DENYING massive numbers of babies massive numbers of these PRE-SCHOOL free
daily immunizations which reportedly help immune systems be the best they
can be...

Earth to all MD and MBs reading: THINK ABOUT IT. Your profession
"scientifically" addicted the West to bottlefeeding and brought the
immunization rate WAY down - and now you have the cultural power to make the
immunization rate SKYROCKET - and you are squandering your cultural
authority by obviously FRAUDULENTLY promoting your MD-needle vaccinations!

PLEASE use your cultural authority to make the immunization rate sky rocket.

ASK yourselves: What woman - explicitly informed by a powerful cultural
authority - i.e. *an MD or MB* - that she is a natural IMMUNIZER - is going
to fail to at least ATTEMPT to give her baby free daily immunizations that
reportedly ACTIVELY help make baby's immune system work better and
reportedly also make MD-needle vaccinations work better?

Your ongoing lie of omission constitutes mass IMMUNOLOGIC child abuse.

Your profession is also committing other obvious crimes...

See again: Confusing vaccination and immunization (Jane Orient, MD;
also: 'PF Riley, MD')...
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/chiro-list/message/2149

Onward...

Rich Shewmaker initially missed my point too.

But now Rich writes:

"I understand your point that 'vaccinations' are not universally
successful."
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm...&output=gplain

Thank you, Rich. Unfortunately, vaccinations may be FAR from "universally
successful." Again, pseudonymous usenet pediatrician "PF Riley, MD" (see
URL above) has estimated that 1 in 6 persons are not immunized by their
vaccinations! I hope he is wrong!

Rich continued...

"But I doubt that your expertise in immunology and public health is
sufficient to allow you to dictate policy to state boards of health or to
the CDC."
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm...&output=gplain

One does not need much "expertise in immunology and public health" to expose
the FACT that...

Ostensibly "pro-immunization" MDs (and CDC) are supporting obvious Exclusion
Day vaccination fraud to promote MD-needle vaccinations as they LIE BY
OMISSION thereby DENYING massive numbers of babies massive numbers of free
daily immunizations that reportedly make immune systems (and MD-needle
vaccinations) work better.

Rich concluded:

"The fact that the rates of death and disability from those diseases
for which we have effective vaccines are down to negligible levels convinces
me that current policies are sufficient."
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm...&output=gplain


Earth to Rich!

One does NOT need much "expertise in immunology and public health" to expose
the FACT that...

Ostensibly "pro-immunization" MDs (and CDC) are supporting obvious Exclusion
Day vaccination fraud to promote MD-needle vaccinations as they LIE BY
OMISSION thereby DENYING massive numbers of babies massive numbers of free
daily immunizations that reportedly make PRE-SCHOOL immune systems (and
MD-needle vaccinations) work better.


Rich, why are MDs (and CDC) failing to tell America that MDs are closing
birth canals and GRUESOMELY manipulating most babies' spines?

Why are you only criticizing spinal manipulation by DCs?

CHIRO AND CARDIAC DEATH?

Rich Shewmaker wrote:

Spinal manipulation is bogus. The MI is not being caused by the spine, and
is not going to be fixed by spinal treatment. In fact, even the nerve that
serves the heart does not come from the spine, but is one of the cranial
nerves that comes directly from the brain...Of course [David
] wouldn't know that...[but] Hawki would.
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm...&output=gplain

David asked,

Doesn't pass through ANY vertabra on the way huh?
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm...&output=gplain

Mark Lowry, MD replied:

No, Genius, it doesn't. The vagus nerve passes through the jugular
foramen in the base of the skull, bypassing the foramen magnum, the
spine, and the vertebrae entirely...[David ] evidently
hasn't spent much time on neuroanatomy.
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm...&output=gplain

Rich Shewmaker similarly replied to David:

Nope. Not one. The heart is served by the tenth cranial nerve, also called
the Vagus nerve, which originates in the brain stem, and exits the skull
through the same opening through which the jugular vein passes. No vertebrae
involved.
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm...&output=gplain

Rich also wrote:

Yes, indeed. Just seeing someone walk in with that "cardiac gray" look is
enough to set our ER staff into our rapid chest pain protocol mode. Within
five minutes, the patient will be on oxygen, he's on a monitor, an EKG has
been done, and a brief history is taken. In the next five minutes, he has a
running IV, blood has been sent to the lab, the doctor has talked to the
patient and read the EKG, nitroglycerine and aspirin have been given, and,
if indicated, thrombolytic meds are being drawn up and prepared for
administration.
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm...&output=gplain


Rich and Mark MD forgot to mention the cardiac plexus and the notion that
pain arising in the cardiac efferents (eg from a heart attack) can be
confused with pain from the somatic efferents, as in,

"The sympathetic supply to the heart is provided through the cardiac plexus,
a network of fibres around the aortic arch, pulmonary artery, left and right
coronary arteries. From the plexus both atra and ventricles are supplied.
The fibres of the cardiac plexus arise in the upper four or five thoracic
spinal segments. Many of the preganglionic fibres synapse in the T1-T5
ganglia, but others ascend in the cervical sympathetic chain to synapse in
the cervical ganglia. The cardiac fibres from the cervical ganglia descend
in the neck to reach the cardiac plexus. Afferent fibres from the heart
travel the same course as sympathetic fibres. The afferent fibres therefore
enter the T1-T5 spinal segments, particularly on the left side. This
visceral afferent input is associated with somatic sensory input in the same
spinal cord segments. Pain arising in the cardiac afferents (e.g. from a
heart attack), can thus be confused with pain from the somatic afferents.
This is described as referred pain. In the case of pain arising from the
heart, pain is felt over the distribution of the T1-T5 somatic fibres on the
left side, and extending up into the root of the neck."
http://www.med.mun.ca/anatomyts/thorax/thornerv.htm

DCs thinking they are helping patients with cardiac symptoms may only be
helping somatic symptoms - or they may be "merely" eliciting the placebo
effect with their spinal manipulation...

J Manipulative Physiol Ther. 1995 Jul-Aug;18(6):379-97. PubMed abstract

Comment in:
J Manipulative Physiol Ther. 1996 Feb;19(2):147-9.
J Manipulative Physiol Ther. 1997 Mar-Apr;20(3):218-24.

Somatic dysfunction and the phenomenon of visceral disease simulation: a
probable explanation for the apparent effectiveness of somatic therapy in
patients presumed to be suffering from true visceral disease.

Nansel D, Szlazak M.

Department of Life Sciences and Clinical Diagnosis, Palmer College of
Chiropractic-West San Jose, CA 95134, USA.

BACKGROUND AND OBJECTIVES: Several theories have been put forth in attempts
to explain the possible mechanisms by which patients presumed to be
suffering from any of a variety of internal organ diseases are occasionally
found to respond quickly and dramatically to therapies delivered to purely
somatic structures (e.g., spinal manipulation). The purpose of this review
is to examine the scientific bases upon which these sorts of clinical
phenomenaight be interpreted. DATA SOURCES: A review was conducted of over
350 articles that have appeared in the scientific literature over the last
75 years. Initially, a MEDLINE search was performed; however, because of the
variability of indexing terms employed by investigators within a wide
variety of biomedical disciplines, most of this literature had to be located
article by article. DATA SYNTHESIS: At present, there have been no
appropriately controlled studies that establish that spinal manipulation or
any other form of somatic therapy represents a valid curative strategy for
the treatment of any internal organ disease. Furthermore, current scientific
knowledge also fails to support the existence of a plausible biological
mechanism that could account for a causal segmentally or regionally related
"somato-visceral disease" relationship. On the other hand, it has now been
firmly established that somatic dysfunction is notorious in its ability to
create overt signs and symptoms that can mimic, or simulate (rather than
cause), internal organ disease. CONCLUSIONS: The proper differential
diagnosis of somatic vs. visceral dysfunction represents a challenge for
both the medical and chiropractic physician. The afferent convergence
mechanisms, which can create signs and symptoms that are virtually
indistinguishable with respect to their somatic vs. visceral etiologies,
need to be appreciated by all portal-of-entry health care providers, to
insure timely referral of patients to the health specialist appropriate to
their condition. Furthermore, it is not unreasonable that this somatic
visceral-disease mimicry could very well account for the "cures" of presumed
organ disease that have been observed over the years in response to various
somatic therapies (e.g., spinal manipulation, acupuncture, Rolfing, Qi Gong,
etc.) and may represent a common phenomenon that has led to "holistic"
health care claims on the part of such clinical disciplines.

Interesting abstract...

J Manipulative Physiol Ther. 1989 Dec;12(6):469-77. PubMed abstract

Possible role of spinal joint dysfunction in the genesis of sudden cardiac
death.

Jarmel ME.

Disturbances in sympathetic and parasympathetic regulation of the heart are
associated with increased vulnerability to sudden cardiac death.
Destabilizing neural input to the vagus and cardiac sympathetic nerves may
originate from mechanically irritated intervertebral joints. Asymptomatic
spinal joint dysfunction can affect the autonomic nervous system and may
activate potent somatocardiac reflexes. Aberrant neural impulses from
vertebral dysfunction may adversely affect the electrical stability of the
heart and increase susceptibility to ventricular fibrillation. Correcting
the spinal joint dysfunction which activates these articulovisceral reflexes
may have beneficial effects in decreasing vulnerability to sudden cardiac
death.


What about cardiovasular problems in general? What about hypertensioin?

Fortunately, chiropractic is far more than spinal manipulation.

See Fasting, chiropractic, hypertension (also: shoulder dystocia)
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/chiro-list/message/2145


CHIRO AND HYPERTENSION: AWESOME BLOOD PRESSURE REDUCTIONS AT AN IN-PATIENT
CHIROPRACTIC FACILITY...

Alan Goldhamer, DC quickly replied to "Fasting, chiropractic, hypertension"
making a REMARKABLE statement:

"The largest effect size in all of the scientific literature on the
treatment of high blood pressure were published in JMPT and JACM and involve
the use of fasting and diet at a CHIROPRACTIC in-patient facility."

Alan wrote:

"The articles can be found on our web site at www.healthpromoting.com

Study 1:
http://www.healthpromoting.com/335-3...115263.QXD.pdf
Study 2:
http://www.healthpromoting.com/Artic.../acmpaper5.pdf "

Goldhamer also wrote: "We recently...published in JACM on the treatment of
diabetes and HBP with the same protocol."

Here is Dr. Goldhamer's address - just in case readers wish to further
explore supervised water-only fasting and diet in the chiropractic treatment
of disease.

Alan Goldhamer, D.C.
TrueNorth Health
www.healthpromoting.com

(707) 586-5555

INCREDIBLE...

"The average reduction in blood pressure was 37/13 mm Hg, with the greatest
decrease being observed for subjects with the most severe hypertension...All
of the subjects who were taking antihypertensive medication at entry (6.3%
of the total sample) successfully discontinued the use of
medication...Although no generalizations can be made from these limited
data, the results are nonetheless suggestive that this approach may have
some sustainable benefits."
--Goldhamer et al. [J Manipulative Physiol Ther 2001;24:335-9]
http://www.healthpromoting.com/335-3...115263.QXD.pdf

I liked Alan's emphasis on CHIROPRACTIC.

Most student doctors of chiropractic are no longer seriously introduced to
NON-SPINAL aspects of chiropractic...

I think organized medicine wants chiros to jump into a "neuromusculoskeletal
box."

I think ACA (post-'failed'-ICA/ACA merger) is willingly going along with the
gag... BJ-"straight" chiropractic and ACA-"mixer" "neuromusculoskeletal"
chiropractic could make chiropractic a spinal cult permanently - finally.

ACA should discuss the FACT that ACA attempted to censor "my" BROADSCOPE
definition of chiropractic (which I got from the Founder via ACA!) - by
subsituting the late Ed Maurer's NARROWSCOPE "neuromusculoskeltal" box
definition...

I'd like "luminaries" on Chiro Bouncer Bob's censored list to discuss this
matter...

Thanks for reading, everyone,

Sincerely,

Todd

Dr. Gastaldo


PS Again, ATTENTION Brian : PLEASE post this to the
censored version of chiro-list (or whereever
the censored version lives now) - AND to the CCA and ACA listservs...

I would like to see ACA/WCA/ICA/FSCO unity on exposing the MD lie of
omission whereby ostensibly "proimmunization" MDs are denying massive
numbers of babies massive numbers of free daily immunizations.

I would ALSO like to see ACA/WCA/ICA/FSCO unity on stopping MDs from closing
birth canals and gruesomely manipulating most babies' spines...

I would like to see this unity BEFORE the Sept. 16, 2003 ACA House of
Delegates meeting in Albuquerque, New Mexico.

All the world's DCs should unite to increase the immunization rate and save
tiny lives and tiny limbs and PREVENT more putative vertebral subluxations
than DCs will ever be able to charge to adjust by hand.

NOTE: As I've already mentioned, the modern miracle of teleconferencing
makes ACA/WCA/ICA/FSCO unity possible on such issues before the Sept. 16 ACA
meeting...

See the end of: Confusing vaccination and immunization (Jane Orient, MD;
also: 'PF Riley, MD')...
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/chiro-list/message/2149

I urge DCs to also end the obvious (albeit rather innocuous) ongoing
CHIROPRACTIC fraud (x-ray/subluxation fraud imposed by medical lobbiest via
Congress in 1972/made an option by Congress in 2000 - optional fraud is
still fraud)...

Now, to be sure, the Chiro Bouncer Bob Show is entertaining - but it's
crooked as hell - badly subluxated.

REMEMBER...

MDs are gruesomely manipulating baby spines en masse - pulling and pushing
on most babies' spines - with birth canals senselessly closed!

Some babies are dying...

MDs are killing an estimated six babies per DAY with vacuum-assisted spinal
manipulation alone - with birth canals senselessly closed up to 30%...

See USUAL MECHANISM (PS5) in my article, "Pregnant chiro patients: BIZARRE
chiro legislation - babies be damned..."
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/chiro-list/message/2135

PLEASE Brian, post this to chirolist@netlojix (or wherever that list is
now) - and also forward it to the CCA and ACA lists...


As noted above, I'm sending this out with Chester Wilk, DC
on the "To" line...

ACA was opposed to Chet's famous lawsuit for the longest time...

Maybe Chet will help motivate ACA to help babies...the tiniest chiropractic
patients...


CMS/MEDICARE/MEDICAID (via Federal Official Keri and
Federal Official Diana ) - esp. Federal Official
Diana...

Diana, will the CMS PPAC members receive my previous email prior to their
Sept. 16, 2003 meeting?

See again: MEDICARE/MEDICAID FRAUD (was PPAC, vaccinations and chiro
bouncer Bob (Bob Dubin, Diplomate, American Board of Chiropractic
Censorship)
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/chiro-list/message/2144

It would be great if the world's largest health insurance program (DHHS/CMS)
would lead the way on stopping MDs from closing birth canals and preventing
gruesome spinal manipulation by MDs...

If PPAC members (mostly MDs but one DC - Dr. Joe Johnson) spoke loud
enough - and persistently - America would listen. So would DHHS Sec. Tommy
Thompson and the big boss Pres GW Bush...

PPAC members should do it for the tiniest chiropractic patients - the babies
who are senselessly facing senselessly closed birth canals, etc.

Sorry to repeat myself but MDs are killing an estimated six babies per DAY
with vacuum-assisted spinal
manipulation alone - with birth canals senselessly closed up to 30%...

See USUAL MECHANISM (PS5) in my article, "Pregnant chiro patients: BIZARRE
chiro legislation - babies be damned..."
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/chiro-list/message/2135


CMS/MEDICARE/MEDICAID, please help stop this grisly obstetric travesty...

Thanks,

Sincerely,

Todd

Dr. Gastaldo


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