MMR scare doctor faces list of charges

Read it all he

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...774388,00.html

At the heart of the GMC’s allegations is the conduct of research carried
out at the Royal Free following the award of a £55,000 contract from
lawyers in August 1996 to perform tests on 10 children for the Legal Aid
Board. Wakefield claimed last year the £55,000 contract was for a “quite
separate” study. This is called into question by confidential Royal Free
documents, including letters from Wakefield himself.

the Medical cartel chief media smearer with more drivel
http://www.whale.to/a/wakefield.html

john wrote:
the Medical cartel chief media smearer with more drivel
http://www.whale.to/a/wakefield.html

Oh, no actual refutation of the facts given in the article, then?

And the article you link says:

From Paul Shattock, "I was at the ASA conference in Indianapolis a
months back. Brian Deer and a camera crew turned up. They booked under
their own name. I was the warm up act and, when I had finished, I went
to the back of the room to talk to parents. Then Andy was on and was as
excellent as usual. As he got off the stage, he was surrounded by
mothers asking questions. Deer and his crew pushed them aside, turned
on their recording equipment and attempted to conduct an interview.
(Clearly there was no permission or request to film.) Andy did that
thing where you put your hand over the camera lens and attempted to
leave the room fast. He bent down to pick up his computer and knocked
against the cameraman. Deer interprets this as an attack. Deer's
interpretation is that his polite request for an interview was turned
down. No doubt edited highlights of this event will be shown." ----Paul
Shattock

But none of this is mentioned in the Times article. What was your
point? Edited highlights were not used here. This is just more whaleto
****.

Nor does it address:

"The GMC's inquiry, expected to conclude at a public hearing next
June, is understood to be investigating Wakefield's work with lawyers
who were trying to sue MMR manufacturers while he was apparently acting
as an independent researcher.

In the original Lancet paper, the only evidence against MMR were
statements by the parents of eight children who linked the vaccine with
autism. The GMC is now trying to establish how many of them were
lawyers' clients.

At the heart of the GMC's allegations is the conduct of research
carried out at the Royal Free following the award of a =A355,000
contract from lawyers in August 1996 to perform tests on 10 children
for the Legal Aid Board. Wakefield claimed last year the =A355,000
contract was for a "quite separate" study. This is called into
question by confidential Royal Free documents, including letters from
Wakefield himself.

These documents indicate that the lawyers' money was initially
rejected by the Royal Free's medical school, but that Wakefield then
arranged for the hospital's management to accept it and to pay it
back to his research interests. The hospital has denied any wrongdoing.


The GMC is also understood to have put it to Wakefield that he did not
have approval from the hospital's ethics committee either for
including data on specific children in The Lancet or for soliciting
other doctors to perform potentially hazardous tests, such as lumbar
punctures.

"These tests were, however, determined and routinely carried out on
the children who formed part of the study without consideration of the
individual history, diagnosis, symptoms and clinical needs of the
children, and without an adequate evaluation of the necessity of the
tests," the GMC papers allege."

In fact, you don't address anything, do you?

Cathy

cathyb wrote:
john wrote:
the Medical cartel chief media smearer with more drivel
http://www.whale.to/a/wakefield.html

Oh, no actual refutation of the facts given in the article, then?

And the article you link says:


Every darn post you make is pro-industry pro- ADA status quo-
Pro- "powers that be"

Don't you have anything better to do than being a professional
lackey.

Clinton wrote:

cathyb wrote:

john wrote:

the Medical cartel chief media smearer with more drivel
http://www.whale.to/a/wakefield.html

Oh, no actual refutation of the facts given in the article, then?

And the article you link says:



Every darn post you make is pro-industry pro- ADA status quo-
Pro- "powers that be"

Don't you have anything better to do than being a professional
lackey.

Like being a professional credophile like you? Live your life ignoring
facts and reality? Try the real world sometime Clinton, it might
surprise you.

JohnDoe wrote:
Clinton wrote:

cathyb wrote:

Like being a professional credophile like you?

Your a complete liar. i haven't expressed a definite opinion on
anything except amalgam that includes MMR-autism. By the way
craphead, in case you haven't noticed I'm not from an alt-med
background.



Live your life ignoring
facts and reality?

Don't lecture me you smug jerk. In fact I'm the opposite of
a crediophile so your Pr trick of opposite characterization
won't work. let some other sucker trip over their own feet
defending themselves against a characterization that isn't true.
I think your a "kissindustryassophile".

By the way reality IS using your real name and accepting all
information with reasoned skeptiscim, and not swapping anyonmous
psuedonems and equating accepting "what everyone else says"
with socratic level wisdom.... , but really, post after post after post
from Cathy mike, bill, Jane etc with the "they must be right" message
and I'm about to puke so enough of this. I hope for your
guys sake that your doing it for the money.

Clinton wrote:
JohnDoe wrote:

Clinton wrote:


cathyb wrote:


Like being a professional credophile like you?


Your a complete liar. i haven't expressed a definite opinion on
anything except amalgam that includes MMR-autism. By the way
craphead, in case you haven't noticed I'm not from an alt-med
background.

My my, did my post upset you so much you have to revert to namecalling?
I may not know much about your background but I do know now about your
ability to make intelligent conversation.

Live your life ignoring
facts and reality?


Don't lecture me you smug jerk.

Here we go again. I really seem to have struck a nerve.

In fact I'm the opposite of a crediophile so your Pr trick of opposite characterization
won't work. let some other sucker trip over their own feet
defending themselves against a characterization that isn't true.

Then why are *you* defending yourself? Bad conscience?

I think your a "kissindustryassophile".

Tsk tsk.

By the way reality IS using your real name

And get (cyber)stalked by you know who? No thanks.

and accepting all information with reasoned skeptiscim,

that would be '*approach* all information'. What use is skepticism if
you accept all information anyway, as you here admit doing.

and not swapping anyonmous psuedonems and equating accepting "what everyone else says"
with socratic level wisdom....

Wow, you're so ticked off by my insignificant little post you haven't
checked your spelling or your coherence. Damn I'm good!

, but really, post after post after post
from Cathy mike, bill, Jane etc with the "they must be right" message
and I'm about to puke so enough of this.

Ah, psychosomatic puking disorder. You really should focus your Chi on
more positive things.

I hope for your guys sake that your doing it for the money

What money? Where?

Clinton wrote:
cathyb wrote:
john wrote:
the Medical cartel chief media smearer with more drivel
http://www.whale.to/a/wakefield.html

Oh, no actual refutation of the facts given in the article, then?

And the article you link says:


Every darn post you make is pro-industry pro- ADA status quo-
Pro- "powers that be"

Don't you have anything better to do than being a professional
lackey.

So you have no refutation either?

Do you have anything to say about the actual article posted?

Do you seriously think the whaleto crap John posted had anything to do
with the actual article posted?

Or are you just indulging in ad hominem rubbish?

Cathy

john wrote:
the Medical cartel chief media smearer with more drivel
http://www.whale.to/a/wakefield.html


John cannot handle the FACT that his hero was a crook and incompetent.

Now, his hero is inflicted on the US.

Clinton wrote:
cathyb wrote:

john wrote:

the Medical cartel chief media smearer with more drivel
http://www.whale.to/a/wakefield.html

Oh, no actual refutation of the facts given in the article, then?

And the article you link says:



Every darn post you make is pro-industry pro- ADA status quo-
Pro- "powers that be"

Don't you have anything better to do than being a professional
lackey.

I am truly sad that you cannot handle the truth that one of the heroes
of the anti-vac liars is about to get officially roasted for actions
that, if done by an employee of the FDA would cause you and your ilk to
post a gadzillion lines of diatribe about how unethical the FDA is.