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TV show - toxins in breastmilk
Monday at 8 pm ITV1 (In the UK), apparently every woman to be should watch
this. They were saying that toxins in breastmilk can make your baby grow slowly. I will be watching out of interest. Andrea mom of 5. |
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TV show - toxins in breastmilk
"Andrea" wrote in message ... Monday at 8 pm ITV1 (In the UK), apparently every woman to be should watch this. They were saying that toxins in breastmilk can make your baby grow slowly. Very interesting - I'll be there too. FWIW growing slowly gives longer life expectancy :-) (I think I read that in 'Breast is Best' by Penny and Andrew Stanway. The slowest growing mammal is alledgedly the elephant and I think most of them live much longer than humans. --Poppy |
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TV show - toxins in breastmilk
"Richard" wrote in message ... Andrea wrote: : Monday at 8 pm ITV1 (In the UK), apparently every woman to be should watch : this. They were saying that toxins in breastmilk can make your baby grow : slowly. : : I will be watching out of interest. Anything about the toxins in fish, cow's milk, water, insecticide-containing vegetables and fruit, hormone-fed livestock,....... We do have a news channel here (NE USA) that carries ITV news. I'll try to catch it. On the lighter side.... Monday at 8 pm ITV1 (In the UK), apparently every woman to be should watch Richard dad to Micaela, a woman-to-be I was in a hurry to type it before I forgot when it was on ! lol After having 5 kids my brain has shrunk somewhat! It shoulda said every mom to be! Andrea mom of 5 with a shrunken brain. |
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TV show - toxins in breastmilk
Yeah but elephants don't grow slowly because of toxins! Theyt grow slowly naturally. No I think the point was that we are *supposed* to grow slowly naturally as well so maybe these 'toxins' are nature's way of maintaining good growth patterns. FF kids always grow much more rapidly which is supposed to be detrimental. *That* was the gist of the Stanway book (well not the whole book obviously). Cows grow rapidly on cow's milk because they need bulk rather than brain - that's what cows need for their way of life IYSWIM. I don't have the book to hand to do a little quote but if I get it again I'll copy here :-) Still looking forward to the documentary though. Maybe it has been billed in this slightly controversial way in order to attention grab for the audience - maybe? --Poppy |
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TV show - toxins in breastmilk
"Andrea" wrote in message
... Monday at 8 pm ITV1 (In the UK), apparently every woman to be should watch this. They were saying that toxins in breastmilk can make your baby grow slowly. Argh. I wish they'd also mention that these toxins are found in the milk of other species as well... like, for example, COWS. Bloody media. Jan -- Mum to Stephen, 22 May 2000 and Sophia, 2 October 2003 My personal page: http://www.sleepingbaby.net/jan/ Baby-related crafts: http://www.sleepingbaby.net/jan/Baby/crafts.html |
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TV show - toxins in breastmilk
"Kereru" wrote in message
... "Jan Andrea" wrote in message Argh. I wish they'd also mention that these toxins are found in the milk of other species as well... like, for example, COWS. Do you know if formula manufacturers screen for and/or remove toxins before they get their final product? I would certainly hope they do, but I don't know how plausible that is. I do know that cow's milk undergoes quite a transmutation, being turned into infant formula, but I don't know the specifics. However, anyone drinking the milk of another species, or eating its meat, for that matter, will also be exposed to environmental toxins. And I say this as a cheese lover who does eat meat. I just hate the spin that the media has put on the story -- they make it sound (in soundbites) as though ONLY breastmilk has these toxins in it, so breastfeeding is more dangerous than other infant feeding methods, which is of course hogwash. Jan -- Mum to Stephen, 22 May 2000 and Sophia, 2 October 2003 My personal page: http://www.sleepingbaby.net/jan/ Baby-related crafts: http://www.sleepingbaby.net/jan/Baby/crafts.html |
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TV show - toxins in breastmilk
"Jan Andrea" wrote in message ... "Kereru" wrote in message ... "Jan Andrea" wrote in message Argh. I wish they'd also mention that these toxins are found in the milk of other species as well... like, for example, COWS. Do you know if formula manufacturers screen for and/or remove toxins before they get their final product? I would certainly hope they do, but I don't know how plausible that is. I do know that cow's milk undergoes quite a transmutation, being turned into infant formula, but I don't know the specifics. However, anyone drinking the milk of another species, or eating its meat, for that matter, will also be exposed to environmental toxins. And I say this as a cheese lover who does eat meat. I just hate the spin that the media has put on the story -- they make it sound (in soundbites) as though ONLY breastmilk has these toxins in it, so breastfeeding is more dangerous than other infant feeding methods, which is of course hogwash. Jan -- My first question was purely out of interest BTW, not as an argument! It's a shame. It's a chance to highlight how seriously screwed up our environment is. It should be (in my opinion) a "look even our breastmilk is being affected" issue. Not one about how you feed your baby, breastfeeding *should* be safe and if it's not there's something wrong with the environment not with breastfeeding. Judy Mum to Stephen, 22 May 2000 and Sophia, 2 October 2003 My personal page: http://www.sleepingbaby.net/jan/ Baby-related crafts: http://www.sleepingbaby.net/jan/Baby/crafts.html |
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TV show - toxins in breastmilk
"Jan Andrea" wrote in message ...
"Kereru" wrote in message ... "Jan Andrea" wrote in message Argh. I wish they'd also mention that these toxins are found in the milk of other species as well... like, for example, COWS. Do you know if formula manufacturers screen for and/or remove toxins before they get their final product? I would certainly hope they do, but I don't know how plausible that is. I do know that cow's milk undergoes quite a transmutation, being turned into infant formula, but I don't know the specifics. However, anyone drinking the milk of another species, or eating its meat, for that matter, will also be exposed to environmental toxins. And I say this as a cheese lover who does eat meat. I just hate the spin that the media has put on the story -- they make it sound (in soundbites) as though ONLY breastmilk has these toxins in it, so breastfeeding is more dangerous than other infant feeding methods, which is of course hogwash. I saw what was probably a similar story a few months ago on the news (no idea which local network it was), and I had the same annoyance. There was another spin, tho - it seemed like they wanted to emphasize that these toxins were so dangerous, they even made breastmilk dangerous, and so they must be stopped. It's still a scare tactic, but at least it seems to have a better goal. Tho, it did also have the spin that made breastmilk sound more dangerous than formula, if you weren't really paying attention. blecch... Irene |
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TV show - toxins in breastmilk
What they have to realise is these toxins are in us all! Even if we didn't
breastfeed, the babies would still end up with the toxins in them one way or another. It made me very sad. There is already a very low uptake of breastfeeding in this country, and I feel it will be used as the ultimate excuse to not even bother with breastfeeding. Andrea mom of 5. |
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TV show - toxins in breastmilk
On Tue, 6 Apr 2004 07:51:30 +0100, "Andrea"
wrote: What they have to realise is these toxins are in us all! Even if we didn't breastfeed, the babies would still end up with the toxins in them one way or another. It made me very sad. There is already a very low uptake of breastfeeding in this country, and I feel it will be used as the ultimate excuse to not even bother with breastfeeding. Okay, I started to watch the prog but had to stop because I was trying to give YB his "last" bedtime feed and he kept trying to watch too. I had three points in my head before I switched the tv off. 1. I already knew about dioxins etc being in me, and being fat-soluble, and I was aware that they turn up in breastmilk, because it's a fatty product. I suspect there may have been an article in the paper last year about it. 2. The Dutch doctor who did the research said quite categorically that his findings did NOT mean that women shouldn't breastfeed, that breastfeeding is still the best thing to do, but that it would be useful to be able to make breastmilk safer. 3. Discussing pre-conceptual care and de-toxing the body to make the eggs, uterine environment and milk safer seemed a) to be making it totally the mother's responsibility to do something about these environmental toxins (therefore adding to her feelings of guilt if she does something "wrong" or loses the pregnancy or ends up having a baby who is anything less than perfect despite doing everything "right") and b) ignoring the point that it's the polluters who are putting these chemicals into the environment, and society as a whole, who should be looking at getting rid of the toxins. Perhaps these points were covered in the second half of the prog, I don't know. But I do know that I'll be continuing to BF YoungBloke as long as he wants it because I (and Bloke) feel that the benefits outweigh the disadvantages. -- Linz YB: 5 months, 17lbs |
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