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Do you let your kid get the flu shot?
Hi -- My family all gets annual flu shots. DS2 had his firsst at the allergists office at age 5, due to infant egg allergy. There were no allergic side effects, so he's had subsequent shots at local clinics. The flu shot does often have the normal side effect of swelling/pain at the hot site for 1-2 days and low-grade fever for a day. We all just deal with this and try to schedule for a day without competetive sports. (I don't know if the nasal spray works the same way.) One further thought: If you want to slow the spread of a contagious disease, your best bet is to innoculate children. Children spread germs like nobody's business! This is particularly true of the flu shot. The shot is only moderately effective (something like 70%) among the elderly, who are also the most prone to have serious cases and to die from the flu. But the shot is highly effective (I think well over 90%) in children. In areas where many children are vaccinated against the flu, cases of flu among the elderly are much reduced. I hope these thoughts help, --Beth Kevles http://web.mit.edu/kevles/www/nomilk.html -- a page for the milk-allergic Disclaimer: Nothing in this message should be construed as medical advice. Please consult with your own medical practicioner. NOTE: No email is read at my MIT address. Use the AOL one if you would like me to reply. |
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Do you let your kid get the flu shot?
Rebecca Jo wrote:
"Lady Penelope Creighton-Ward" wrote: I took the flu shot this past season, and today I'm the only one in the household not down with a bad cold. Not sure if it's related, but it would make sense to try to protect the kids next time around. I can't find info on why this might NOT be a good idea, so if anyone can point me to some I'd appreciate it. I'd like to learn both sides of the matter first. My kids are now six months and 19 months old. The only thing I know is you shouldn't get it if you're allergic to eggs. rj Fertilized chicken eggs that is a blast from the past (no offence). I am almost certain that it is not an issue these days. Check with your doctor. |
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Do you let your kid get the flu shot?
On Sep 7, 3:00 am, Chookie wrote:
I'm guessing it's not that important for children. We have a set of vaccines here that are given free to children, and the flu vaccine is not on that list. Actually, the risk of complications from the flu is as high (perhaps higher?) in young children as it is among elderly people. This is based on US data that came out in the last few years and was quite a surprise to the researchers. Also as someone pointed out, kids are germ vectors and so one of the best ways to reduce the disease burden in a population is to immunize the kids. The US recommendations only changed in the last 5 years. Perhaps if Australia hasn't changed the recommendations it's because they're studying whether the morbidity and mortality rates are true there as well -- I suspect a lot of it has to do with the prevalence of asthma in the population, as asthmatics are often the ones who get real sick. Kate, ignorant foot soldier of the medical cartel and the Bug, 4 years old and a little something else due 4/11/08 |
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Do you let your kid get the flu shot?
On Sep 6, 11:07?am, Banty wrote:
In article 3cUDi.1703$6T5.428@trnddc06, Jeff says... Chris wrote: On Sep 5, 11:37?am, Lady Penelope Creighton-Ward wrote: I took the flu shot this past season, and today I'm the only one in the household not down with a bad cold. Not sure if it's related, but it would make sense to try to protect the kids next time around. I can't find info on why this might NOT be a good idea, so if anyone can point me to some I'd appreciate it. I'd like to learn both sides of the matter first. My kids are now six months and 19 months old. We don't do the flu shot over here and have never had the flu knock- knock. I've been told that every year some specialists gather together and try to pick the 3 types of flu they predict will be the culprits for the season, then they create the flu vaccince to accommodate those. If you get the type of flu the vaccine isn't designed to lessen or prevent, then you can still get the *flu*. That's not totally true. Even when the vaccine is not a good match for the flu going around, the vaccine does offer some protection. Another good question is "how often does the flu vaccine match the flu bugs that actually go around?" It has matched the flu bugs going around about 90% of the time in the last several years. The specialists do a very good job of predicting what flu bugs will be going around. Jeff Exactly. So often folks' thinking on the question of flu vaccines let the perfect get in the way of the good. That it does not (can not) *perfectly* anticipate or *perfectly* confer immunity against a season's flu viruses does not mean it is not worthwhile to get. Sure as heck works a lot better than knocking on wood Banty- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - The knock-on-wood comment was meant jokingly so as to not undo our good luck, appropriate preventative measures, etc. with not catching the flu for 30+ years in this household, save DH's multiple bouts; not that it keeps the flu away. While DH comes from a medical family, his mother annually gave out flu shots, which I passed on. DH would then get around 2 bouts of *flu* a year, and none since he has stopped getting the flu shots. All of my coworkers also got some form of flu- like symptoms, if even not actually the actual flu due to not requiring diagnosis or treatment, after each administration of the vaccine. I'm not fixin' what ain't broke over here. I know about all of the supposed pros and cons, but my method works just fine over here for all of us now. I got the *flu* once as a child of around 7. |
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Do you let your kid get the flu shot?
In article , Ericka Kammerer
says... Chookie wrote: I'm guessing it's not that important for children. In the US, children aged 6 months to 59 months are considered a high risk group that should be vaccinated for flu (along with others in their household). That age group is more likely to spread the disease and more likely to suffer serious complications from it. Quick quick - *everyone* - what is 59 divided by 12?? Come on, come on, it should be right at your, um, fingertips... An estimation technique using a memorized times table brings this answer right to mind Banty (mixing up threads..) |
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Banty wrote:
In article , Ericka Kammerer says... Chookie wrote: I'm guessing it's not that important for children. In the US, children aged 6 months to 59 months are considered a high risk group that should be vaccinated for flu (along with others in their household). That age group is more likely to spread the disease and more likely to suffer serious complications from it. Quick quick - *everyone* - what is 59 divided by 12?? Come on, come on, it should be right at your, um, fingertips... An estimation technique using a memorized times table brings this answer right to mind ;-) What I don't get is why this degree of precision? I find it unlikely that one month makes a huge difference in likelihood of complications or transmission to folks in high risk categories. I guess it must be that it becomes important when there are shortages and they have to make decisions about who's allowed to get the vaccine. Best wishes, Ericka |
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Do you let your kid get the flu shot?
Congratulations to you is in order I see! Congrats!
and a little something else due 4/11/08 |
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Do you let your kid get the flu shot?
In article , Ericka Kammerer
says... Banty wrote: In article , Ericka Kammerer says... Chookie wrote: I'm guessing it's not that important for children. In the US, children aged 6 months to 59 months are considered a high risk group that should be vaccinated for flu (along with others in their household). That age group is more likely to spread the disease and more likely to suffer serious complications from it. Quick quick - *everyone* - what is 59 divided by 12?? Come on, come on, it should be right at your, um, fingertips... An estimation technique using a memorized times table brings this answer right to mind ;-) What I don't get is why this degree of precision? I find it unlikely that one month makes a huge difference in likelihood of complications or transmission to folks in high risk categories. I guess it must be that it becomes important when there are shortages and they have to make decisions about who's allowed to get the vaccine. I took it as someone being stuck in toddler-age mode. "He's eighteen months old", etc. Or they felt that they had to be consistent with the time units needing to refere to "six months". (There, I can understand the precision.) But, yeah, it's dumb, and the first thing that popped in my mind was 'gosh gotta divide by 12 to understand this...' Banty |
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In article . com, Chris says...
On Sep 6, 11:07?am, Banty wrote: In article 3cUDi.1703$6T5.428@trnddc06, Jeff says... Chris wrote: On Sep 5, 11:37?am, Lady Penelope Creighton-Ward wrote: I took the flu shot this past season, and today I'm the only one in the household not down with a bad cold. Not sure if it's related, but it would make sense to try to protect the kids next time around. I can't find info on why this might NOT be a good idea, so if anyone can point me to some I'd appreciate it. I'd like to learn both sides of the matter first. My kids are now six months and 19 months old. We don't do the flu shot over here and have never had the flu knock- knock. I've been told that every year some specialists gather together and try to pick the 3 types of flu they predict will be the culprits for the season, then they create the flu vaccince to accommodate those. If you get the type of flu the vaccine isn't designed to lessen or prevent, then you can still get the *flu*. That's not totally true. Even when the vaccine is not a good match for the flu going around, the vaccine does offer some protection. Another good question is "how often does the flu vaccine match the flu bugs that actually go around?" It has matched the flu bugs going around about 90% of the time in the last several years. The specialists do a very good job of predicting what flu bugs will be going around. Jeff Exactly. So often folks' thinking on the question of flu vaccines let the perfect get in the way of the good. That it does not (can not) *perfectly* anticipate or *perfectly* confer immunity against a season's flu viruses does not mean it is not worthwhile to get. Sure as heck works a lot better than knocking on wood Banty- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - The knock-on-wood comment was meant jokingly so as to not undo our good luck, appropriate preventative measures, etc. with not catching the flu for 30+ years in this household, save DH's multiple bouts; not that it keeps the flu away. While DH comes from a medical family, his mother annually gave out flu shots, which I passed on. DH would then get around 2 bouts of *flu* a year, and none since he has stopped getting the flu shots. All of my coworkers also got some form of flu- like symptoms, if even not actually the actual flu due to not requiring diagnosis or treatment, after each administration of the vaccine. I'm not fixin' what ain't broke over here. I know about all of the supposed pros and cons, but my method works just fine over here for all of us now. I got the *flu* once as a child of around 7. Well, OK; you have a lot of faith in your flu-bubble "over there". ;-) You're still going on what is just a matter of luck and cooincidence. Which brings me back to your "knock on wood" comment, although you were partly kidding. Banty |
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Do you let your kid get the flu shot?
Ericka Kammerer wrote:
In the US, children aged 6 months to 59 months are considered a high risk group that should be vaccinated for flu (along with others in their household). That age group is more likely to spread the disease and more likely to suffer serious complications from it. What will the world be like with the projected human population of 9 or 10 billion? Is it fair to inflict a 50-percent increase in population on our descendants? .. .. -- |
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