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How can I prosecute Child Stealing / Custodial Interference (CAL PC 278.5)
"Kenneth S." wrote in message ... When selecting attorneys, it's important to check their track record. It's very easy for attorneys, particularly those who are guest speakers at fathers' groups, to talk tough and try to create the impression that they will vigorously defend a father's interests. However, the acid test is their success rate in the past. Yep find the former clients. Ask the men who paid him! |
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How can I prosecute Child Stealing / Custodial Interference (CAL PC 278.5)
"Kenneth S." wrote in message ... When selecting attorneys, it's important to check their track record. It's very easy for attorneys, particularly those who are guest speakers at fathers' groups, to talk tough and try to create the impression that they will vigorously defend a father's interests. However, the acid test is their success rate in the past. Yep find the former clients. Ask the men who paid him! |
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How can I prosecute Child Stealing / Custodial Interference (CAL PC 278.5)
"Kenneth S." wrote in message ... When selecting attorneys, it's important to check their track record. It's very easy for attorneys, particularly those who are guest speakers at fathers' groups, to talk tough and try to create the impression that they will vigorously defend a father's interests. However, the acid test is their success rate in the past. The one comment about divorce that just drives me nuts is: "You should have hired a better attorney." The people who have never been through the gender biased system we call Family Law are generally the ones who make this statement. I am one of those who believe the gender of the client has a direct relationship on the attorney's ability to get results for the client. Here is an example: My ex had an attorney who several women I knew were referring each other to as a greatly skilled divorce lawyer. Of course, I got the usual hammering in my case. Then a man I know used the same attorney the women held is such high regard, and he got hammered. In fact, this male friend told me this attorney didn't do anything for him and lost every issue. I actually think I had a good attorney because he understood the process, set reasonable expectations for the outcome up front, detailed the issues we could challenge and those we couldn't, and said his role as my attorney was to cut my loses because I was male. |
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How can I prosecute Child Stealing / Custodial Interference (CAL PC 278.5)
"Kenneth S." wrote in message ... When selecting attorneys, it's important to check their track record. It's very easy for attorneys, particularly those who are guest speakers at fathers' groups, to talk tough and try to create the impression that they will vigorously defend a father's interests. However, the acid test is their success rate in the past. The one comment about divorce that just drives me nuts is: "You should have hired a better attorney." The people who have never been through the gender biased system we call Family Law are generally the ones who make this statement. I am one of those who believe the gender of the client has a direct relationship on the attorney's ability to get results for the client. Here is an example: My ex had an attorney who several women I knew were referring each other to as a greatly skilled divorce lawyer. Of course, I got the usual hammering in my case. Then a man I know used the same attorney the women held is such high regard, and he got hammered. In fact, this male friend told me this attorney didn't do anything for him and lost every issue. I actually think I had a good attorney because he understood the process, set reasonable expectations for the outcome up front, detailed the issues we could challenge and those we couldn't, and said his role as my attorney was to cut my loses because I was male. |
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How can I prosecute Child Stealing / Custodial Interference (CAL PC 278.5)
"Kenneth S." wrote in message ... When selecting attorneys, it's important to check their track record. It's very easy for attorneys, particularly those who are guest speakers at fathers' groups, to talk tough and try to create the impression that they will vigorously defend a father's interests. However, the acid test is their success rate in the past. The one comment about divorce that just drives me nuts is: "You should have hired a better attorney." The people who have never been through the gender biased system we call Family Law are generally the ones who make this statement. I am one of those who believe the gender of the client has a direct relationship on the attorney's ability to get results for the client. Here is an example: My ex had an attorney who several women I knew were referring each other to as a greatly skilled divorce lawyer. Of course, I got the usual hammering in my case. Then a man I know used the same attorney the women held is such high regard, and he got hammered. In fact, this male friend told me this attorney didn't do anything for him and lost every issue. I actually think I had a good attorney because he understood the process, set reasonable expectations for the outcome up front, detailed the issues we could challenge and those we couldn't, and said his role as my attorney was to cut my loses because I was male. |
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How can I prosecute Child Stealing / Custodial Interference (CAL PC 278.5)
"Bob Whiteside" wrote in message link.net... The one comment about divorce that just drives me nuts is: "You should have hired a better attorney." The people who have never been through the gender biased system we call Family Law are generally the ones who make this statement. I am one of those who believe the gender of the client has a direct relationship on the attorney's ability to get results for the client. I went through it and won custody of three daughters, ages 10, 8 and 6 at the time. So I know. I also have been consulting on father custody cases for almost 30 years and in that time have helped make several thousand custodial dads. Yes there is a bias against dads. Often it starts with the lawyer you hire, but it is everywhere else. Just because it is a bad situation that is no excuse to quit or be stupid. It's unfair, boo hoo, now quit or go out and win. Bitching about how unfair it all is changes nothing just makes you bitter and she wins. Here is an example: My ex had an attorney who several women I knew were referring each other to as a greatly skilled divorce lawyer. Of course, I got the usual hammering in my case. Then a man I know used the same attorney the women held is such high regard, and he got hammered. In fact, this male friend told me this attorney didn't do anything for him and lost every issue. Look - it takes LITTLE skill to win for a woman. In 90% of the cases all a lawyer needs to do is say; "look judge my client has boobs" and he wins. It takes skill to win for a dad. It's that bias thing you were speaking about. It makes it difficult and it makes it expensive to win, not impossible. That lawyer never had to work before he represented women and his heart wasn't in representing a man. I actually think I had a good attorney because he understood the process, set reasonable expectations for the outcome up front, detailed the issues we could challenge and those we couldn't, and said his role as my attorney was to cut my loses because I was male. Reasonable expectations is to WIN................!! Unless you want to lose. |
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How can I prosecute Child Stealing / Custodial Interference (CAL PC 278.5)
"Bob Whiteside" wrote in message link.net... The one comment about divorce that just drives me nuts is: "You should have hired a better attorney." The people who have never been through the gender biased system we call Family Law are generally the ones who make this statement. I am one of those who believe the gender of the client has a direct relationship on the attorney's ability to get results for the client. I went through it and won custody of three daughters, ages 10, 8 and 6 at the time. So I know. I also have been consulting on father custody cases for almost 30 years and in that time have helped make several thousand custodial dads. Yes there is a bias against dads. Often it starts with the lawyer you hire, but it is everywhere else. Just because it is a bad situation that is no excuse to quit or be stupid. It's unfair, boo hoo, now quit or go out and win. Bitching about how unfair it all is changes nothing just makes you bitter and she wins. Here is an example: My ex had an attorney who several women I knew were referring each other to as a greatly skilled divorce lawyer. Of course, I got the usual hammering in my case. Then a man I know used the same attorney the women held is such high regard, and he got hammered. In fact, this male friend told me this attorney didn't do anything for him and lost every issue. Look - it takes LITTLE skill to win for a woman. In 90% of the cases all a lawyer needs to do is say; "look judge my client has boobs" and he wins. It takes skill to win for a dad. It's that bias thing you were speaking about. It makes it difficult and it makes it expensive to win, not impossible. That lawyer never had to work before he represented women and his heart wasn't in representing a man. I actually think I had a good attorney because he understood the process, set reasonable expectations for the outcome up front, detailed the issues we could challenge and those we couldn't, and said his role as my attorney was to cut my loses because I was male. Reasonable expectations is to WIN................!! Unless you want to lose. |
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How can I prosecute Child Stealing / Custodial Interference (CAL PC 278.5)
"Bob Whiteside" wrote in message link.net... The one comment about divorce that just drives me nuts is: "You should have hired a better attorney." The people who have never been through the gender biased system we call Family Law are generally the ones who make this statement. I am one of those who believe the gender of the client has a direct relationship on the attorney's ability to get results for the client. I went through it and won custody of three daughters, ages 10, 8 and 6 at the time. So I know. I also have been consulting on father custody cases for almost 30 years and in that time have helped make several thousand custodial dads. Yes there is a bias against dads. Often it starts with the lawyer you hire, but it is everywhere else. Just because it is a bad situation that is no excuse to quit or be stupid. It's unfair, boo hoo, now quit or go out and win. Bitching about how unfair it all is changes nothing just makes you bitter and she wins. Here is an example: My ex had an attorney who several women I knew were referring each other to as a greatly skilled divorce lawyer. Of course, I got the usual hammering in my case. Then a man I know used the same attorney the women held is such high regard, and he got hammered. In fact, this male friend told me this attorney didn't do anything for him and lost every issue. Look - it takes LITTLE skill to win for a woman. In 90% of the cases all a lawyer needs to do is say; "look judge my client has boobs" and he wins. It takes skill to win for a dad. It's that bias thing you were speaking about. It makes it difficult and it makes it expensive to win, not impossible. That lawyer never had to work before he represented women and his heart wasn't in representing a man. I actually think I had a good attorney because he understood the process, set reasonable expectations for the outcome up front, detailed the issues we could challenge and those we couldn't, and said his role as my attorney was to cut my loses because I was male. Reasonable expectations is to WIN................!! Unless you want to lose. |
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How can I prosecute Child Stealing / Custodial Interference (CAL PC 278.5)
"krp" wrote in message ... "Bob Whiteside" wrote in message link.net... The one comment about divorce that just drives me nuts is: "You should have hired a better attorney." The people who have never been through the gender biased system we call Family Law are generally the ones who make this statement. I am one of those who believe the gender of the client has a direct relationship on the attorney's ability to get results for the client. I went through it and won custody of three daughters, ages 10, 8 and 6 at the time. So I know. I also have been consulting on father custody cases for almost 30 years and in that time have helped make several thousand custodial dads. Yes there is a bias against dads. Often it starts with the lawyer you hire, but it is everywhere else. Just because it is a bad situation that is no excuse to quit or be stupid. It's unfair, boo hoo, now quit or go out and win. Bitching about how unfair it all is changes nothing just makes you bitter and she wins. I can tell you from personal experience that pushing the envelope to overcome the bias within the system is treated by the courts as extending the divorce process, harassing your soon to be ex, and causing her to run up unnecessary legal expenses. As a result I have paid 100% of my exes attorney fees totalling 10's of thousands of dollars. The bias in the divorce industry is to protect women from the big, bad men who are trying to manipulate them. The truth is women who are surveyed are very satisfied with the divorce system because they get more than a fair share of everything AND they feel in control of the process because of their gender. Here is an example: My ex had an attorney who several women I knew were referring each other to as a greatly skilled divorce lawyer. Of course, I got the usual hammering in my case. Then a man I know used the same attorney the women held is such high regard, and he got hammered. In fact, this male friend told me this attorney didn't do anything for him and lost every issue. Look - it takes LITTLE skill to win for a woman. In 90% of the cases all a lawyer needs to do is say; "look judge my client has boobs" and he wins. It takes skill to win for a dad. It's that bias thing you were speaking about. It makes it difficult and it makes it expensive to win, not impossible. That lawyer never had to work before he represented women and his heart wasn't in representing a man. This theory seems to run counter to the well documented concept of "negotiating in the shadow of the law." Fathers have two choices - accept their attorney's knowledge of how the courts like to rule, or fight the system. The latter option costs a lot of money and the results are questionable. I actually think I had a good attorney because he understood the process, set reasonable expectations for the outcome up front, detailed the issues we could challenge and those we couldn't, and said his role as my attorney was to cut my loses because I was male. Reasonable expectations is to WIN................!! Unless you want to lose. Actually, a reasonable expectation is to have the opposing party negotiate in good faith, be honest about the facts and circumstances, and be willing to compromise. I fought the system hard because of dirty trick negotiation tactics used by my ex and her attorney, gross misrepresentations about her lifestyle to the mediators and the court, personal attacks on me that were baseless, her lying under oath, and her desire to end up with 100% of everything and me sitting in jail. I paid the price for standing up against these types of tactics. And the judge protected my ex from having to be responsible for her unreasonable actions. |
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How can I prosecute Child Stealing / Custodial Interference (CAL PC 278.5)
"krp" wrote in message ... "Bob Whiteside" wrote in message link.net... The one comment about divorce that just drives me nuts is: "You should have hired a better attorney." The people who have never been through the gender biased system we call Family Law are generally the ones who make this statement. I am one of those who believe the gender of the client has a direct relationship on the attorney's ability to get results for the client. I went through it and won custody of three daughters, ages 10, 8 and 6 at the time. So I know. I also have been consulting on father custody cases for almost 30 years and in that time have helped make several thousand custodial dads. Yes there is a bias against dads. Often it starts with the lawyer you hire, but it is everywhere else. Just because it is a bad situation that is no excuse to quit or be stupid. It's unfair, boo hoo, now quit or go out and win. Bitching about how unfair it all is changes nothing just makes you bitter and she wins. I can tell you from personal experience that pushing the envelope to overcome the bias within the system is treated by the courts as extending the divorce process, harassing your soon to be ex, and causing her to run up unnecessary legal expenses. As a result I have paid 100% of my exes attorney fees totalling 10's of thousands of dollars. The bias in the divorce industry is to protect women from the big, bad men who are trying to manipulate them. The truth is women who are surveyed are very satisfied with the divorce system because they get more than a fair share of everything AND they feel in control of the process because of their gender. Here is an example: My ex had an attorney who several women I knew were referring each other to as a greatly skilled divorce lawyer. Of course, I got the usual hammering in my case. Then a man I know used the same attorney the women held is such high regard, and he got hammered. In fact, this male friend told me this attorney didn't do anything for him and lost every issue. Look - it takes LITTLE skill to win for a woman. In 90% of the cases all a lawyer needs to do is say; "look judge my client has boobs" and he wins. It takes skill to win for a dad. It's that bias thing you were speaking about. It makes it difficult and it makes it expensive to win, not impossible. That lawyer never had to work before he represented women and his heart wasn't in representing a man. This theory seems to run counter to the well documented concept of "negotiating in the shadow of the law." Fathers have two choices - accept their attorney's knowledge of how the courts like to rule, or fight the system. The latter option costs a lot of money and the results are questionable. I actually think I had a good attorney because he understood the process, set reasonable expectations for the outcome up front, detailed the issues we could challenge and those we couldn't, and said his role as my attorney was to cut my loses because I was male. Reasonable expectations is to WIN................!! Unless you want to lose. Actually, a reasonable expectation is to have the opposing party negotiate in good faith, be honest about the facts and circumstances, and be willing to compromise. I fought the system hard because of dirty trick negotiation tactics used by my ex and her attorney, gross misrepresentations about her lifestyle to the mediators and the court, personal attacks on me that were baseless, her lying under oath, and her desire to end up with 100% of everything and me sitting in jail. I paid the price for standing up against these types of tactics. And the judge protected my ex from having to be responsible for her unreasonable actions. |
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