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Correcting misinformation on Jasper Mountain...
I have been provided your emails by my staff who monitor the accuracy of
information on the internet. In this case I understand the internet source to be a foster parent support group of some kind. I have been provided the posting on this site mentioning Jasper Mountain and I want to correct misinformation in these postings. It appears that there are people concerned about the safety and treatment of children at Jasper Mountain and I want to provide you assurances that the children are very well cared for. --No twelve year old client in the last month was killed when she “jumped out of a transport van and was struck by a car.” This did not happen in the last month or anytime over the last 25 years of agency operations. --Contrary to postings to the contrary, since the agency began in 1982 no child has ever stopped breathing either during a “safe hold” or at any other time. --Despite postings to the contrary no child’s heart has ever stopped during a hold or at any other time. --Jasper Mountain has never had a child transported to the hospital/emergency room via ambulance or by EMT’s and thus the use of “paddles” to resuscitate any child did not occur. Perhaps all of the above took place related to some other organization, but not involving Jasper Mountain. The article in the Eugene Register Guard on 12/22/07 (referenced in the discussion) pertained to injuries that occurred 14 to 24 months previously and the lawsuit a personal injury attorney has been pursuing for over a year. All three injuries were investigated in great detail and found to be accidental and unfounded for any type of abuse on the part of the agency and its staff. The newspaper continues to attempt to generate controversy but for the most part they have been unsuccessful. Since we readily accept violent children into our program we know there is always a chance of injury, although our injury record over the years is excellent. Lawsuits related to accidents are unfortunately quite routine in our society (although this is our agency’s first such suit) and the insurance company will likely offer the attorney money to resolve the matter. I hope this is helpful. Dave Ziegler Executive Director http://www.scar-jaspermtn.org/ |
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Correcting misinformation on Jasper Mountain...
"firemonkey" wrote in message ... On Jan 18, 1:57 pm, tlwaggoner wrote: On Jan 18, 12:02 am, fx wrote: I have been provided your emails by my staff who monitor the accuracy of information on the internet. In this case I understand the internet source to be a foster parent support group of some kind. I have been provided the posting on this site mentioning Jasper Mountain and I want to correct misinformation in these postings. It appears that there are people concerned about the safety and treatment of children at Jasper Mountain and I want to provide you assurances that the children are very well cared for. --No twelve year old client in the last month was killed when she "jumped out of a transport van and was struck by a car." This did not happen in the last month or anytime over the last 25 years of agency operations. --Contrary to postings to the contrary, since the agency began in 1982 no child has ever stopped breathing either during a "safe hold" or at any other time. --Despite postings to the contrary no child's heart has ever stopped during a hold or at any other time. --Jasper Mountain has never had a child transported to the hospital/emergency room via ambulance or by EMT's and thus the use of "paddles" to resuscitate any child did not occur. Perhaps all of the above took place related to some other organization, but not involving Jasper Mountain. The article in the Eugene Register Guard on 12/22/07 (referenced in the discussion) pertained to injuries that occurred 14 to 24 months previously and the lawsuit a personal injury attorney has been pursuing for over a year. All three injuries were investigated in great detail and found to be accidental and unfounded for any type of abuse on the part of the agency and its staff. The newspaper continues to attempt to generate controversy but for the most part they have been unsuccessful. Since we readily accept violent children into our program we know there is always a chance of injury, although our injury record over the years is excellent. Lawsuits related to accidents are unfortunately quite routine in our society (although this is our agency's first such suit) and the insurance company will likely offer the attorney money to resolve the matter. I hope this is helpful. Dave Ziegler Executive Director http://www.scar-jaspermtn.org/ Thats an out right lie..I have the documentation to prove that my son did in fact stop breathing, and was rushed to the hospital from Scar-Jasper.. Its a report made by CPS Social Worker to the Courts..By the way CPS WAS PAYING FOR MY SON'S TREATMENT. SO WAS CPS LIEING OR SCAR? Can you post the documents with the names of the child blacked out? I wonder where this response by the treatment center is located. Was it published in a newspaper, or what? If it was part of an article written by a journalist, the reply given by the director to the journalist, then I would think that it would be much better for TL to send the information that they have to the journalist, so that they can publish the full story, rather than provide it to us. If it's posted on their web site only, then it's possible that TL coould bring it to the attention of a local newspaper and show them the information that she/he has and make the public aware that Jasper is not only unsuafe, but also unthruthful. Parents have a right to know what kind of facility their children are going into. I'm sorry, TL, that so many issues arose with your child, and I hope that your child is doing better now, but I also hope that you coming to this group and stating that the statements of Jasper are untrue is an indicator that you would stand against them and the treatment that children receive there, and make it known publicly that it is not a safe facility before someone else's child ends up there and worse happens. If you have that 'inside' information act on it. I know that I, for one, would appreciate others standing up to inform me of what I have no idea about. I don't feel that providing that information here would accomplish anything, after all, none of us here matter...what matters is that the proof be shown to those who need proof....other parents in the area who may have children that will be placed in the facility. Besides, I would not recommend that TL put any information in a newsgroup, and most especially this one. Betty |
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Correcting misinformation on Jasper Mountain...
tlwaggoner wrote:
On Jan 18, 1:30 pm, "dragonsgirl" wrote: "firemonkey" wrote in message ... On Jan 18, 1:57 pm, tlwaggoner wrote: On Jan 18, 12:02 am, fx wrote: I have been provided your emails by my staff who monitor the accuracy of information on the internet. In this case I understand the internet source to be a foster parent support group of some kind. I have been provided the posting on this site mentioning Jasper Mountain and I want to correct misinformation in these postings. It appears that there are people concerned about the safety and treatment of children at Jasper Mountain and I want to provide you assurances that the children are very well cared for. --No twelve year old client in the last month was killed when she "jumped out of a transport van and was struck by a car." This did not happen in the last month or anytime over the last 25 years of agency operations. --Contrary to postings to the contrary, since the agency began in 1982 no child has ever stopped breathing either during a "safe hold" or at any other time. --Despite postings to the contrary no child's heart has ever stopped during a hold or at any other time. --Jasper Mountain has never had a child transported to the hospital/emergency room via ambulance or by EMT's and thus the use of "paddles" to resuscitate any child did not occur. Perhaps all of the above took place related to some other organization, but not involving Jasper Mountain. The article in the Eugene Register Guard on 12/22/07 (referenced in the discussion) pertained to injuries that occurred 14 to 24 months previously and the lawsuit a personal injury attorney has been pursuing for over a year. All three injuries were investigated in great detail and found to be accidental and unfounded for any type of abuse on the part of the agency and its staff. The newspaper continues to attempt to generate controversy but for the most part they have been unsuccessful. Since we readily accept violent children into our program we know there is always a chance of injury, although our injury record over the years is excellent. Lawsuits related to accidents are unfortunately quite routine in our society (although this is our agency's first such suit) and the insurance company will likely offer the attorney money to resolve the matter. I hope this is helpful. Dave Ziegler Executive Director http://www.scar-jaspermtn.org/ Thats an out right lie..I have the documentation to prove that my son did in fact stop breathing, and was rushed to the hospital from Scar-Jasper.. Its a report made by CPS Social Worker to the Courts..By the way CPS WAS PAYING FOR MY SON'S TREATMENT. SO WAS CPS LIEING OR SCAR? Can you post the documents with the names of the child blacked out? I wonder where this response by the treatment center is located. Was it published in a newspaper, or what? If it was part of an article written by a journalist, the reply given by the director to the journalist, then I would think that it would be much better for TL to send the information that they have to the journalist, so that they can publish the full story, rather than provide it to us. If it's posted on their web site only, then it's possible that TL coould bring it to the attention of a local newspaper and show them the information that she/he has and make the public aware that Jasper is not only unsuafe, but also unthruthful. Parents have a right to know what kind of facility their children are going into. I'm sorry, TL, that so many issues arose with your child, and I hope that your child is doing better now, but I also hope that you coming to this group and stating that the statements of Jasper are untrue is an indicator that you would stand against them and the treatment that children receive there, and make it known publicly that it is not a safe facility before someone else's child ends up there and worse happens. If you have that 'inside' information act on it. I know that I, for one, would appreciate others standing up to inform me of what I have no idea about. I don't feel that providing that information here would accomplish anything, after all, none of us here matter...what matters is that the proof be shown to those who need proof....other parents in the area who may have children that will be placed in the facility. Besides, I would not recommend that TL put any information in a newsgroup, and most especially this one. Betty- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Sadly Betty the info was given to people with power to do something, Senators, State Reps, even Govenors ombudsman office. Unforunenly CPS keeps placing children at Scar-Jasper. And this artical was not in the newspaper. I don't know where it came from. I know alot about Scar-Jasper. I've seen with my own eyes the holds the children are placed in. It was e-mailed directly to me! under the heading of "Correcting misinformation" FX |
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Correcting misinformation on Jasper Mountain...
"fx" wrote in message ... tlwaggoner wrote: On Jan 18, 1:30 pm, "dragonsgirl" wrote: "firemonkey" wrote in message ... On Jan 18, 1:57 pm, tlwaggoner wrote: On Jan 18, 12:02 am, fx wrote: I have been provided your emails by my staff who monitor the accuracy of information on the internet. In this case I understand the internet source to be a foster parent support group of some kind. I have been provided the posting on this site mentioning Jasper Mountain and I want to correct misinformation in these postings. It appears that there are people concerned about the safety and treatment of children at Jasper Mountain and I want to provide you assurances that the children are very well cared for. --No twelve year old client in the last month was killed when she "jumped out of a transport van and was struck by a car." This did not happen in the last month or anytime over the last 25 years of agency operations. --Contrary to postings to the contrary, since the agency began in 1982 no child has ever stopped breathing either during a "safe hold" or at any other time. --Despite postings to the contrary no child's heart has ever stopped during a hold or at any other time. --Jasper Mountain has never had a child transported to the hospital/emergency room via ambulance or by EMT's and thus the use of "paddles" to resuscitate any child did not occur. Perhaps all of the above took place related to some other organization, but not involving Jasper Mountain. The article in the Eugene Register Guard on 12/22/07 (referenced in the discussion) pertained to injuries that occurred 14 to 24 months previously and the lawsuit a personal injury attorney has been pursuing for over a year. All three injuries were investigated in great detail and found to be accidental and unfounded for any type of abuse on the part of the agency and its staff. The newspaper continues to attempt to generate controversy but for the most part they have been unsuccessful. Since we readily accept violent children into our program we know there is always a chance of injury, although our injury record over the years is excellent. Lawsuits related to accidents are unfortunately quite routine in our society (although this is our agency's first such suit) and the insurance company will likely offer the attorney money to resolve the matter. I hope this is helpful. Dave Ziegler Executive Director http://www.scar-jaspermtn.org/ Thats an out right lie..I have the documentation to prove that my son did in fact stop breathing, and was rushed to the hospital from Scar-Jasper.. Its a report made by CPS Social Worker to the Courts..By the way CPS WAS PAYING FOR MY SON'S TREATMENT. SO WAS CPS LIEING OR SCAR? Can you post the documents with the names of the child blacked out? I wonder where this response by the treatment center is located. Was it published in a newspaper, or what? If it was part of an article written by a journalist, the reply given by the director to the journalist, then I would think that it would be much better for TL to send the information that they have to the journalist, so that they can publish the full story, rather than provide it to us. If it's posted on their web site only, then it's possible that TL coould bring it to the attention of a local newspaper and show them the information that she/he has and make the public aware that Jasper is not only unsuafe, but also unthruthful. Parents have a right to know what kind of facility their children are going into. I'm sorry, TL, that so many issues arose with your child, and I hope that your child is doing better now, but I also hope that you coming to this group and stating that the statements of Jasper are untrue is an indicator that you would stand against them and the treatment that children receive there, and make it known publicly that it is not a safe facility before someone else's child ends up there and worse happens. If you have that 'inside' information act on it. I know that I, for one, would appreciate others standing up to inform me of what I have no idea about. I don't feel that providing that information here would accomplish anything, after all, none of us here matter...what matters is that the proof be shown to those who need proof....other parents in the area who may have children that will be placed in the facility. Besides, I would not recommend that TL put any information in a newsgroup, and most especially this one. Betty- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Sadly Betty the info was given to people with power to do something, Senators, State Reps, even Govenors ombudsman office. Unforunenly CPS keeps placing children at Scar-Jasper. And this artical was not in the newspaper. I don't know where it came from. I know alot about Scar-Jasper. I've seen with my own eyes the holds the children are placed in. It was e-mailed directly to me! under the heading of "Correcting misinformation" FX It was mailed to you by the director? Why? What 'misinformation' did you provide and where? Is he nuts? You'd think if he was going to clear up any 'misinformation' he would be more inclined to do so with the media and the state. Did he ask you to post the letter here? Was it in direct response to TL's claims? Ask him to send you the data to prove the claims HE makes. Sheesh. |
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Correcting misinformation on Jasper Mountain...
"Greegor" wrote in message ... [...] I have been provided your emails by my staff who monitor the accuracy of information on the internet. That's interesting! [...] All three injuries were investigated in great detail BY WHO? Screw 'who'. What I want to know is why the three incidents were 'investigated in great detail' if, as he says further below, they never happened. Yeah. Ok. Duh. and found to be accidental and unfounded for any type of abuse on the part of the agency and its staff. [...] Dave Ziegler Executive Director http://www.scar-jaspermtn.org/ I have been provided your emails by my staff who monitor the accuracy of information on the internet. In this case I understand the internet source to be a foster parent support group of some kind. I have been provided the posting on this site mentioning Jasper Mountain and I want to correct misinformation in these postings. It appears that there are people concerned about the safety and treatment of children at Jasper Mountain and I want to provide you assurances that the children are very well cared for. --No twelve year old client in the last month was killed when she "jumped out of a transport van and was struck by a car." This did not happen in the last month or anytime over the last 25 years of agency operations. --Contrary to postings to the contrary, since the agency began in 1982 no child has ever stopped breathing either during a "safe hold" or at any other time. --Despite postings to the contrary no child's heart has ever stopped during a hold or at any other time. --Jasper Mountain has never had a child transported to the hospital/emergency room via ambulance or by EMT's and thus the use of "paddles" to resuscitate any child did not occur. Perhaps all of the above took place related to some other organization, but not involving Jasper Mountain. The article in the Eugene Register Guard on 12/22/07 (referenced in the discussion) pertained to injuries that occurred 14 to 24 months previously and the lawsuit a personal injury attorney has been pursuing for over a year. All three injuries were investigated in great detail and found to be accidental and unfounded for any type of abuse on the part of the agency and its staff. The newspaper continues to attempt to generate controversy but for the most part they have been unsuccessful. Since we readily accept violent children into our program we know there is always a chance of injury, although our injury record over the years is excellent. Lawsuits related to accidents are unfortunately quite routine in our society (although this is our agency's first such suit) and the insurance company will likely offer the attorney money to resolve the matter. I hope this is helpful. |
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Correcting misinformation on Jasper Mountain...
"Greegor" wrote in message ... ""Dave"" All three injuries were investigated in great detail G BY WHO? BW Screw 'who'. What I want to know BW is why the three incidents were BW 'investigated in great detail' if, as BW he says further below, they never BW happened. BW BW Yeah. BW BW Ok. BW BW Duh. Good catch, Betty! ***Well? Doesn't that make sense? Why would they investigate incidents that never occurred? I wonder if this was really the director, in which case he's obviously not too bright of a fella because he practically put his foot in it. Or, is this someone writing to FX as if they were that director and pulling FX's chain? Doesn't make sense to me that TL posts about her/his experiences with this facility, and someone writes to FX in regard, rather than TL, claiming that they are the director of the facility and makes such a huge mistake as denying that incidents were investigated that he also claims never happened. Kinda odd. IMHO. |
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Correcting misinformation on Jasper Mountain...
tlwaggoner wrote:
On Jan 19, 8:18 am, "dragonsgirl" wrote: "Greegor" wrote in message ... ""Dave"" All three injuries were investigated in great detail G BY WHO? BW Screw 'who'. What I want to know BW is why the three incidents were BW 'investigated in great detail' if, as BW he says further below, they never BW happened. BW BW Yeah. BW BW Ok. BW BW Duh. Good catch, Betty! ***Well? Doesn't that make sense? Why would they investigate incidents that never occurred? I wonder if this was really the director, in which case he's obviously not too bright of a fella because he practically put his foot in it. Or, is this someone writing to FX as if they were that director and pulling FX's chain? Doesn't make sense to me that TL posts about her/his experiences with this facility, and someone writes to FX in regard, rather than TL, claiming that they are the director of the facility and makes such a huge mistake as denying that incidents were investigated that he also claims never happened. Kinda odd. IMHO. Very strange indeed. Why would the director of Scar care about what's posted here? I found it very odd myself that anyone let alone the director of Scar would be interested in what's happening with this newsgroup! here is the raw e-mail source as I received it... P.S. I added to return address to his signature and Web site for the convenience of others exactly as I found them in the raw source.... the message appears to have been sent both in plain text and hypertext... FX From - Fri Jan 18 00:26:20 2008 X-Account-Key: account5 X-UIDL: 1167262038.504 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Return-Path: Received: from nurrti.email.starband.net ([unix socket]) by nurrti.email.starband.net (Cyrus v2.2.1-BETA) with LMTP; Thu, 17 Jan 2008 19:18:18 -0500 X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 Received: from apollo.email.starband.net (apollo.email.starband.net [10.78.249.32]) by nurrti.email.starband.net (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m0I0IIFI023547 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2008 19:18:18 -0500 Received: from toaster1.peak.org (toaster1.peak.org [207.55.97.138]) by apollo.email.starband.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id m0I0INki003853 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2008 19:18:24 -0500 Received: (qmail 4895 invoked by uid 89); 18 Jan 2008 00:18:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO rhdaveofc) ) by toaster1.peak.org with ESMTPA; 18 Jan 2008 00:18:23 -0000 From: "Dave Ziegler" To: , , , , , , Subject: Correcting misinformation Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 16:18:13 -0800 Message-ID: 000f01c85967$a3d41d30$5506a8c0@rhdaveofc MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0010_01C85924.95B0DD30" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Thread-Index: AchZZ50OaaiOVQVgTiqbQlm7XEHFog== X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.86.2, clamav-milter version 0.86 on apollo X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 tagged_above=0 required=5 X-Spam-Report: HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE,HTML_NONELEMENT_20_30 X-Spam-Flag: NO This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C85924.95B0DD30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have been provided your emails by my staff who monitor the accuracy of information on the internet. In this case I understand the internet source to be a foster parent support group of some kind. I have been provided the posting on this site mentioning Jasper Mountain and I want to correct misinformation in these postings. It appears that there are people concerned about the safety and treatment of children at Jasper Mountain and I want to provide you assurances that the children are very well cared for. --No twelve year old client in the last month was killed when she "jumped out of a transport van and was struck by a car." This did not happen in the last month or anytime over the last 25 years of agency operations. --Contrary to postings to the contrary, since the agency began in 1982 no child has ever stopped breathing either during a "safe hold" or at any other time. --Despite postings to the contrary no child's heart has ever stopped during a hold or at any other time. --Jasper Mountain has never had a child transported to the hospital/emergency room via ambulance or by EMT's and thus the use of "paddles" to resuscitate any child did not occur. Perhaps all of the above took place related to some other organization, but not involving Jasper Mountain. The article in the Eugene Register Guard on 12/22/07 (referenced in the discussion) pertained to injuries that occurred 14 to 24 months previously and the lawsuit a personal injury attorney has been pursuing for over a year. All three injuries were investigated in great detail and found to be accidental and unfounded for any type of abuse on the part of the agency and its staff. The newspaper continues to attempt to generate controversy but for the most part they have been unsuccessful. Since we readily accept violent children into our program we know there is always a chance of injury, although our injury record over the years is excellent. Lawsuits related to accidents are unfortunately quite routine in our society (although this is our agency's first such suit) and the insurance company will likely offer the attorney money to resolve the matter. I hope this is helpful. 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It appears = that there are people concerned about the safety and treatment of children at = st1lace w:st=3D"on"st1:PlaceName w:st=3D"on"Jasper/st1:PlaceName = st1:PlaceType w:st=3D"on"Mountain/st1:PlaceType/st1lace and I want to provide you assurances that the children are very well = cared for.o/o/span/font/p p class=3DMsoNormalfont size=3D2 face=3DArialspan = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'o /o/span/font/p p class=3DMsoNormalfont size=3D2 face=3DArialspan = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'--No twelve year old client in the last month was = killed when she “jumped out of a transport van and was struck by a = car.” This did not happen in the last month or anytime over the last 25 years = of agency operations.o/o/span/font/p p class=3DMsoNormalfont size=3D2 face=3DArialspan = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'o /o/span/font/p p class=3DMsoNormalfont size=3D2 face=3DArialspan = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'--Contrary to postings to the contrary, since the = agency began in 1982 no child has ever stopped breathing either during a = “safe hold” or at any other time.o/o/span/font/p p class=3DMsoNormalfont size=3D2 face=3DArialspan = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'o /o/span/font/p p class=3DMsoNormalfont size=3D2 face=3DArialspan = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'--Despite postings to the contrary no child’s = heart has ever stopped during a hold or at any other = time.o/o/span/font/p p class=3DMsoNormalfont size=3D2 face=3DArialspan = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'o /o/span/font/p p class=3DMsoNormalfont size=3D2 face=3DArialspan = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'--st1lace w:st=3D"on"st1:PlaceName = w:st=3D"on"Jasper/st1:PlaceName st1:PlaceType w:st=3D"on"Mountain/st1:PlaceType/st1lace has = never had a child transported to the hospital/emergency room via ambulance or by = EMT’s and thus the use of “paddles” to resuscitate any child did = not occur.o/o/span/font/p p class=3DMsoNormalfont size=3D2 face=3DArialspan = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'o /o/span/font/p p class=3DMsoNormalfont size=3D2 face=3DArialspan = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'Perhaps all of the above took place related to some = other organization, but not involving st1lace w:st=3D"on"st1:PlaceName = w:st=3D"on"Jasper/st1:PlaceName st1:PlaceType w:st=3D"on"Mountain/st1:PlaceType/st1lace. = The article in the Eugene Register Guard on 12/22/07 (referenced in the discussion) = pertained to injuries that occurred 14 to 24 months previously and the lawsuit a = personal injury attorney has been pursuing for over a year. All three = injuries were investigated in great detail and found to be accidental and unfounded = for any type of abuse on the part of the agency and its staff. The = newspaper continues to attempt to generate controversy but for the most part they = have been unsuccessful. Since we readily accept violent children into = our program we know there is always a chance of injury, although our injury = record over the years is excellent. Lawsuits related to accidents are unfortunately quite routine in our society (although this is our = agency’s first such suit) and the insurance company will likely offer the = attorney money to resolve the matter. 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Correcting misinformation on Jasper Mountain...
"fx" wrote in message ... tlwaggoner wrote: On Jan 19, 8:18 am, "dragonsgirl" wrote: "Greegor" wrote in message ... ""Dave"" All three injuries were investigated in great detail G BY WHO? BW Screw 'who'. What I want to know BW is why the three incidents were BW 'investigated in great detail' if, as BW he says further below, they never BW happened. BW BW Yeah. BW BW Ok. BW BW Duh. Good catch, Betty! ***Well? Doesn't that make sense? Why would they investigate incidents that never occurred? I wonder if this was really the director, in which case he's obviously not too bright of a fella because he practically put his foot in it. Or, is this someone writing to FX as if they were that director and pulling FX's chain? Doesn't make sense to me that TL posts about her/his experiences with this facility, and someone writes to FX in regard, rather than TL, claiming that they are the director of the facility and makes such a huge mistake as denying that incidents were investigated that he also claims never happened. Kinda odd. IMHO. Very strange indeed. Why would the director of Scar care about what's posted here? I found it very odd myself that anyone let alone the director of Scar would be interested in what's happening with this newsgroup! here is the raw e-mail source as I received it... P.S. I added to return address to his signature and Web site for the convenience of others exactly as I found them in the raw source.... the message appears to have been sent both in plain text and hypertext... FX From - Fri Jan 18 00:26:20 2008 X-Account-Key: account5 X-UIDL: 1167262038.504 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 X-Mozilla-Keys: Return-Path: Received: from nurrti.email.starband.net ([unix socket]) by nurrti.email.starband.net (Cyrus v2.2.1-BETA) with LMTP; Thu, 17 Jan 2008 19:18:18 -0500 X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.2 Received: from apollo.email.starband.net (apollo.email.starband.net [10.78.249.32]) by nurrti.email.starband.net (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m0I0IIFI023547 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2008 19:18:18 -0500 Received: from toaster1.peak.org (toaster1.peak.org [207.55.97.138]) by apollo.email.starband.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id m0I0INki003853 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2008 19:18:24 -0500 Received: (qmail 4895 invoked by uid 89); 18 Jan 2008 00:18:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO rhdaveofc) ) by toaster1.peak.org with ESMTPA; 18 Jan 2008 00:18:23 -0000 From: "Dave Ziegler" To: , , , , , , Subject: Correcting misinformation Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 16:18:13 -0800 Message-ID: 000f01c85967$a3d41d30$5506a8c0@rhdaveofc MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0010_01C85924.95B0DD30" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Thread-Index: AchZZ50OaaiOVQVgTiqbQlm7XEHFog== X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.86.2, clamav-milter version 0.86 on apollo X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 tagged_above=0 required=5 X-Spam-Report: HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE,HTML_NONELEMENT_20_30 X-Spam-Flag: NO This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C85924.95B0DD30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have been provided your emails by my staff who monitor the accuracy of information on the internet. In this case I understand the internet source to be a foster parent support group of some kind. I have been provided the posting on this site mentioning Jasper Mountain and I want to correct misinformation in these postings. It appears that there are people concerned about the safety and treatment of children at Jasper Mountain and I want to provide you assurances that the children are very well cared for. --No twelve year old client in the last month was killed when she "jumped out of a transport van and was struck by a car." This did not happen in the last month or anytime over the last 25 years of agency operations. --Contrary to postings to the contrary, since the agency began in 1982 no child has ever stopped breathing either during a "safe hold" or at any other time. --Despite postings to the contrary no child's heart has ever stopped during a hold or at any other time. --Jasper Mountain has never had a child transported to the hospital/emergency room via ambulance or by EMT's and thus the use of "paddles" to resuscitate any child did not occur. Perhaps all of the above took place related to some other organization, but not involving Jasper Mountain. The article in the Eugene Register Guard on 12/22/07 (referenced in the discussion) pertained to injuries that occurred 14 to 24 months previously and the lawsuit a personal injury attorney has been pursuing for over a year. All three injuries were investigated in great detail and found to be accidental and unfounded for any type of abuse on the part of the agency and its staff. The newspaper continues to attempt to generate controversy but for the most part they have been unsuccessful. Since we readily accept violent children into our program we know there is always a chance of injury, although our injury record over the years is excellent. Lawsuits related to accidents are unfortunately quite routine in our society (although this is our agency's first such suit) and the insurance company will likely offer the attorney money to resolve the matter. I hope this is helpful. Dave Ziegler Executive Director ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C85924.95B0DD30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable html xmlns=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-comfficeffice" = xmlns:w=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-comffice:word" = xmlns:st1=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-comffice:smarttags" = xmlns=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40" head meta http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Dus-ascii" meta name=3DGenerator content=3D"Microsoft Word 11 (filtered medium)" o:SmartTagType = namespaceuri=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-comffice:smarttags" name=3D"PlaceType"/ o:SmartTagType = namespaceuri=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-comffice:smarttags" name=3D"PlaceName"/ o:SmartTagType = namespaceuri=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-comffice:smarttags" name=3D"place"/ !--[if !mso] style st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) } /style ![endif]-- style !-- /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman";} a:link, span.MsoHyperlink {color:blue; text-decoration:underline;} a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed {colorurple; text-decoration:underline;} span.EmailStyle17 {mso-style-typeersonal-compose; font-family:Arial; color:windowtext;} @page Section1 {size:8.5in 11.0in; margin:2.5in 1.0in 1.0in 1.5in;} div.Section1 {page:Section1;} -- /style /head body lang=3DEN-US link=3Dblue vlink=3Dpurple div class=3DSection1 p class=3DMsoNormalfont size=3D2 face=3DArialspan = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'I have been provided your emails by my staff who = monitor the accuracy of information on the internet. In this case I understand = the internet source to be a foster parent support group of some kind. = I have been provided the posting on this site mentioning st1lace = w:st=3D"on"st1:PlaceName w:st=3D"on"Jasper/st1:PlaceName st1:PlaceType = w:st=3D"on"Mountain/st1:PlaceType/st1lace and I want to correct misinformation in these postings. It appears = that there are people concerned about the safety and treatment of children at = st1lace w:st=3D"on"st1:PlaceName w:st=3D"on"Jasper/st1:PlaceName = st1:PlaceType w:st=3D"on"Mountain/st1:PlaceType/st1lace and I want to provide you assurances that the children are very well = cared for.o/o/span/font/p p class=3DMsoNormalfont size=3D2 face=3DArialspan = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'o /o/span/font/p p class=3DMsoNormalfont size=3D2 face=3DArialspan = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'--No twelve year old client in the last month was = killed when she “jumped out of a transport van and was struck by a = car.” This did not happen in the last month or anytime over the last 25 years = of agency operations.o/o/span/font/p p class=3DMsoNormalfont size=3D2 face=3DArialspan = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'o /o/span/font/p p class=3DMsoNormalfont size=3D2 face=3DArialspan = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'--Contrary to postings to the contrary, since the = agency began in 1982 no child has ever stopped breathing either during a = “safe hold” or at any other time.o/o/span/font/p p class=3DMsoNormalfont size=3D2 face=3DArialspan = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'o /o/span/font/p p class=3DMsoNormalfont size=3D2 face=3DArialspan = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'--Despite postings to the contrary no child’s = heart has ever stopped during a hold or at any other = time.o/o/span/font/p p class=3DMsoNormalfont size=3D2 face=3DArialspan = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'o /o/span/font/p p class=3DMsoNormalfont size=3D2 face=3DArialspan = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'--st1lace w:st=3D"on"st1:PlaceName = w:st=3D"on"Jasper/st1:PlaceName st1:PlaceType w:st=3D"on"Mountain/st1:PlaceType/st1lace has = never had a child transported to the hospital/emergency room via ambulance or by = EMT’s and thus the use of “paddles” to resuscitate any child did = not occur.o/o/span/font/p p class=3DMsoNormalfont size=3D2 face=3DArialspan = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'o /o/span/font/p p class=3DMsoNormalfont size=3D2 face=3DArialspan = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'Perhaps all of the above took place related to some = other organization, but not involving st1lace w:st=3D"on"st1:PlaceName = w:st=3D"on"Jasper/st1:PlaceName st1:PlaceType w:st=3D"on"Mountain/st1:PlaceType/st1lace. = The article in the Eugene Register Guard on 12/22/07 (referenced in the discussion) = pertained to injuries that occurred 14 to 24 months previously and the lawsuit a = personal injury attorney has been pursuing for over a year. All three = injuries were investigated in great detail and found to be accidental and unfounded = for any type of abuse on the part of the agency and its staff. The = newspaper continues to attempt to generate controversy but for the most part they = have been unsuccessful. Since we readily accept violent children into = our program we know there is always a chance of injury, although our injury = record over the years is excellent. Lawsuits related to accidents are unfortunately quite routine in our society (although this is our = agency’s first such suit) and the insurance company will likely offer the = attorney money to resolve the matter. I hope this is = helpful.o/o/span/font/p p class=3DMsoNormalfont size=3D2 face=3DArialspan = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'o /o/span/font/p p class=3DMsoNormalfont size=3D2 face=3DArialspan = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'Dave Zieglero/o/span/font/p p class=3DMsoNormalfont size=3D2 face=3DArialspan = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt; font-family:Arial'Executive Directoro/o/span/font/p /div /body /html ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C85924.95B0DD30 Wow. I notice that the e-mail went to other people as well. Why is FX the only one to receive it who presented it here? |
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Correcting misinformation on Jasper Mountain...
"Greegor" wrote in message ... BW Wow. I notice that the e-mail went to other people as well. BW Why is FX the only one to receive it who presented it here? I should check my SPAM filter more often? ***Probably |
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Correcting misinformation on Jasper Mountain...
"tlwaggoner" wrote in message ... On Jan 19, 10:33 pm, "dragonsgirl" wrote: "Greegor" wrote in message ... BW Wow. I notice that the e-mail went to other people as well. BW Why is FX the only one to receive it who presented it here? I should check my SPAM filter more often? ***Probably Sorry Im not in the habit of checking my spam box. I did find the e-mail. I think I;ll save it. ****Yeah, you should. If they persist in lying about the incidents that occurred there, as you have outlined here, then you might want to take action on it. |
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