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Arizona - CPS Case Worker Admits Credit Card Fraud
krp wrote: "Ron" wrote in message ... Greegor wrote: LK Yes. You got your cut. RVD No, I dont. I get less than it costs me RVD to maintain the kids. I lose out, have RVD to pay a portion of the cost of the care RVD of these kids out of my own pocket. Christ complex Ron? Facts gregg. But then you already know that. Hey Ronny want a "LINK?" YOURS is MISSING! No kenny, you ARE the missing link. We could only hope, along with your customers, that you go missing. Ron -- Kenneth Pangborn (AKA KRP) is a lying sack of ****! Proof at: www.aboutkenpangborn.com |
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Arizona - CPS Case Worker Admits Credit Card Fraud
krp wrote: "Ron" wrote in message ... Rarely the case. Bashing is pretty easy to recognize, and moving a foster child from a home like that takes less than a day. Foster parents on an adoption tract are usually very open about that, there are even special programs within the CPS system for individuals who want to adopt from the system. Typically children are not placed with these types of individuals unless TPR and adoption are what the system has firmly in mind for the kids. Even then it does not always happen, sometimes the parents actually get their **** together in time to prevent it, or find an attorney that knows what he/she is doing and how to prevent these things. A foster parent on an adoption tract is usually someone who gets more disappointment than satisfaction. (snip relavent facts) In addition if we want ANY case study on ADOPTION - mean ANY case that rips off the veneer of BULL**** surrounding it we can look at the history of he "Baby Jessica" case and look CLOSELY at the behavior of the DeBoers. In THAT you have your TYPICAL adoptive or foster family shown bare for what they are. NOTHING - absolutely NOTHING is as telling as the video shot by Katie Couric of NBC of the day of the turnover of the girl to her REAL parents! And NO -0 Ronny the DeBoers were NEVER her "REAL PARENTS." Not even close. "The baby wasn't turned over to "parents," But to the father because the mother placed the child with the family for adoption, a private adoption, without informing the father of the child's existence. As usual your "FACTS" are wrong. Actually "Jessica" was turned over to a social worker and then BOTH PARENTS because they had married by that time, you are NOT in ANY way, Ron, entitled to your own FACTS. The child was taken by a LAWYER (see adoption RACKET) in the hospital the DeBoers did NOT come to take her. The child was given to the DeBoers (FOR MONEY $$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$) later. As in SOLD to the highest bidder! Ain't that SPECIAL? Children who are adopted through the state in similar circumstances have the rights of any missing parent, after legal search proceedings to find that person, terminated by the court. There is no "do-overs."" Sorry Ron your "FACTS" again somewhat vary from REALITY! "Let me see now, this is a guy that claims to be an expert, with graduate degrees Cum Laude, and he can't even be bothered to look up a case for facts before trying to use it to make his argument. Baby Jessica was a private adoption. Never a foster child. It was not a state managed adoption. The mother tricked the adoptive parents and the biological father." Try getting your facts right, for once. Baby Jessica is a case about ADOPTION Ronny. I even emphasized ADOPTION by capitalizing it so a MORON like YOU wouldn't miss it, but you did, or at least PRETEND to have missed it and you want to cloud this about FOSTER CARE. I said "ADOPTION" Ronny. Not foster care, although both can be tarred by extension by that case. I am VERY familiar with the Baby Jessica case. Now LET'S PLEASE look at the FACTS, shall we? Or I bet YOU don't want to. Baby "Jessica" was born in Iowa. The child was SOLD to the DeBoers who had the $$$$$ $$$$$ $$$$$$ $$$$$$ $$$$$ who lived in Michigan. The father upon finding out that the child was born (mom had lied and told him she had a miscarriage) filed an action to block the IOWA adoption and gain custody of his child (within the Iowa LAW). The Deboers opposed his position. (He filed within 30 days of the baby's birth). They LOST at trial. They appealed. they LOST at the appeal in Iowa, They appealed to the Iowa Supreme Court and LOST. They went to a Michigan judge and LOST. They SHOPPED and SHOPPED for a Judge in Michigan who would take their side. They won. The PARENTS (then married) appealed and WON. The Deboers appealed to the Michigan Supreme court and LOST. They then went to federal court and LOST, then appealed and LOST then appealed to the U.S. Supreme Court and LOST. hey REFUSED to surrender the child. The entire saga of Baby "Jessica's" last days with the DeBoers was done on video by Katie Couric of NBC. From my point of view it documents the systematic mind screwing of the child by the DeBoers, primarily by Mrs. DeBoer. It shows HOW they worked the child up to a frenzy just as the social worker came to pick the child up in the desperate hope that if they got the child worked up enough they could still win. To MY point of view the case illustrates what is wrong with adoption in America. There have been many other "Baby Jessica" cases that have been dragged out for YEAR after YEAR in the courts by less than good adoptive parents. In MY opinion the DeBoers should NEVER be allowed to have a child. I think that Mrs. DeBoer PROVES that God had a good point when he didn't let her have children. The cynical use of the legal system to delay the return of the child to her parents was bad enough. The deliberate and HIGHLY CALCULATED mind screwing of the child to WIN BY ANY MEANS even if they had to destroy the child's mind and soul to WIN the PROPERTY pretty well DAMNS this who corrupt system that facilitates that crap. Please do NOT try to tell me she loved the child. It won't sell, nobody who loved a child would do those things to the child. The DeBoers lawyers told them that they would lose back at the start. They CHOSE the path they did knowing it. Which is why they have their website today. Yeah Ron - we need to talk about FACTS. Older and wiser laws made adoption a process that wasn't final for a year. That way authorities could check up to see that the fit was working. Now they WINK at abuse. Just to get the cases completed. HURRY HURRY. Forget the young mothers BLACKMAILED into giving up their kids, being COERCED to sign adoption forms even while DRUGGED and they don't know what they are signing. It's YOUR System Ronny, and it STINKS and I am against it, so you can Danny can try to attack me through my daughter and show us how SOLID your arguments are. You always have David Moore's website Ronny. That REALLY proves me wrong, don't it? IN YOUR WET DREAMS BOZO! Kenny kenny kenny, I know that the truth is the very last thing that you ever think of, but must you take so long in the telling of all those lies? The only valid point you have is the one under your hat. The rest is unsupported drivel. Please, feel free to support your "thoughts" (and I use the term quite loosely), with data. I wont hold my breath, but then again the entire news group has learned to avoid this. Ron -- Kenneth Pangborn (AKA KRP) is a lying sack of ****! Proof at: www.aboutkenpangborn.com |
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Arizona - CPS Case Worker Admits Credit Card Fraud
"Ron" wrote in message ... Yeah Ron - we need to talk about FACTS. Older and wiser laws made adoption a process that wasn't final for a year. That way authorities could check up to see that the fit was working. Now they WINK at abuse. Just to get the cases completed. HURRY HURRY. Forget the young mothers BLACKMAILED into giving up their kids, being COERCED to sign adoption forms even while DRUGGED and they don't know what they are signing. It's YOUR System Ronny, and it STINKS and I am against it, so you can Danny can try to attack me through my daughter and show us how SOLID your arguments are. You always have David Moore's website Ronny. That REALLY proves me wrong, don't it? IN YOUR WET DREAMS BOZO! Kenny kenny kenny, I know that the truth is the very last thing that you ever think of, but must you take so long in the telling of all those lies? Well Ronny - more and more I am starting to ignore your bull****. Your IDIOTIC claims tyhat the things I have detailed above don't happen are just further examples of your tendency to LIE your ass off. It's simple Ronny BABY you can vist the many site of the anti-adoption web ring. Your claims that young women are NOT blackmailed, by parents, preachers, doctors and others to give up their babies is the claim of a CRETIN! And that label fits YOU so well Ronny! You are the consumate WHORE for CPS and the adoption RACKET! Lagalized BABY SELLING! I'd suggest you research some of the cases that have hit the news of adoption battles before you make your sweeping bull**** claims.. http://s.webring.com/hub?ring=antiadoption I just LOVE it Ronny when you go into HIGH GEAR LYING... The bull**** just drips off your lying lips Ronny. (figuratively) http://www.exiledmothers.com/ We are mothers who lost our babies to the adoption industry in both closed adoptions and "open" adoptions. NONE of us willingly surrendered our children. None of us "gave them away." Our babies were NOT gifts. They were NOT "unwanted." I don't know how somebody could possibly be AS full of **** as YOU are Ronny! You must WORK at it very hard. Anyone can do a search on the anti adoption webring and see documentation of what *I* have said. |
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