Vancouver B.C. Mom: Why did my baby die? Infant found dead daysafter being put in foster home, A report last year found that children ingovernment care died at four times the rate of those in the general population

Mom: Why did my baby die?
Infant found dead days after being put in foster home
John Bermingham, The Province
Published: Friday, September 21, 2007

http://www.canada.com/theprovince/ne...2-4e2e9f2e5950

NANAIMO - Rose Touchie wants to know why her four-month-old baby
Caroline died less than one week after going into foster care.

Choking back tears yesterday, the young Nanaimo mom told The Province
she's not getting any answers from the government.

"I'm just lost right now. I don't know what to do," she said. "The one
thing I want to know is why."

Social workers came to Rose's mother's home on Sept. 6 and took away
Caroline and her two-year-old sister, Cecilia.

They said they had reports the house, where all four lived, was untidy
and unfit for the kids.

On Sept. 11, Touchie, 20, was in court trying to get them back when she
was told there had been an incident at the foster home.

Caroline was fed at 2 a.m. and put to bed. But foster parents found her
lying on her stomach at 8.30 a.m., dead.

"What I want to know is why she went so long without being checked,"
Touchie said. "It's just common sense. I always checked on her every
hour. She was still a newborn."

Rose's mother, Corrina Touchie, 41, said Caroline had eczema on her back
and around the diaper line and was hospitalized in August for five days.

"They [social workers] said the house was untidy and that they felt the
children were in danger," she said.

"She's a good mom. She loved the children.

"The house was untidy. She was trying to keep house and look after the
two babies."

The family laid Caroline to rest with her Ucluelet First Nation
ancestors on Tuesday, after relying on the kindness of others to cover
the burial costs.

Rose has hired a lawyer through legal aid to look for answers. And she's
back in court next week to regain custody of her other daughter.

B.C. child-welfare director Marilyn Hedlund wouldn't comment
specifically on the death but said in a statement: "We are deeply
saddened by the death of a child in care."

Vancouver Island regional coroner Rose Stanton said her office is
investigating.

"One of the tasks of the autopsy is to determine whether there's any
trauma, recent or historical," she said. "If there was anything untoward
about her condition, it will be documented and reported back."

Nanaimo RCMP Const. Jen Allan said there is no criminal investigation.

The B.C. representative for children and youth, Mary Ellen
Turpel-Lafond, may conduct her own review of the death and provide a
report to the legislature.

"The family has been waiting for answers," said NDP children and
families critic Nicholas Simons, but the Children's Ministry is being
too defensive, he said.

"How are we supporting families with children? Is it a punitive
approach, or are we [taking] a supportive approach?"

B.C.'s child-protection system has been racked by crisis in recent years.

In 2002, 19-month-old Sherry Charlie was beaten to death by a foster
father who officials knew had been convicted of domestic assault.

A report last year found that children in government care died at four
times the rate of those in the general population between 1986 and 2005.
About 9,000, or one per cent, of all B.C. kids are in care, half of whom
are aboriginal.




© The Vancouver Province 2007

A report last year found that children in government care died at four
times the rate of those in the general population between 1986 and
2005.
About 9,000, or one per cent, of all B.C. kids are in care, half of
whom
are aboriginal.

Any questions?

On Sep 21, 5:36 pm, Greegor wrote:
A report last year found that children in government care died at four
times the rate of those in the general population between 1986 and
2005.
About 9,000, or one per cent, of all B.C. kids are in care, half of
whom
are aboriginal.

Any questions?

Certainly not from you gregg. You are a confirmed liar, a founded
abuser, **** disturber and general scumbag.

On Sep 21, 9:01 pm, firemonkey wrote:
On Sep 21, 5:36 pm, Greegor wrote:

A report last year found that children in government care died at four
times the rate of those in the general population between 1986 and
2005.
About 9,000, or one per cent, of all B.C. kids are in care, half of
whom
are aboriginal.

Any questions?

Certainly not from you gregg. You are a confirmed liar, a founded
abuser, **** disturber and general scumbag.

Don't hold back.

Tell Greg how you really feel.

A report last year found that children in government care died at four
times the rate of those in the general population between 1986 and
2005.
About 9,000, or one per cent, of all B.C. kids are in care, half of
whom are aboriginal.

G Any questions?

Firemonkey wrote
Certainly not from you gregg. You are a confirmed liar, a founded
abuser, **** disturber and general scumbag.

What do those accusations have to do with a newspaper story
about the death rate in state care?

Who ARE you working for?

What ARE you trying to conceal?

On Sep 21, 8:40 pm, Greegor wrote:
A report last year found that children in government care died at four
times the rate of those in the general population between 1986 and
2005.
About 9,000, or one per cent, of all B.C. kids are in care, half of
whom are aboriginal.

G Any questions?

Firemonkey wrote

Certainly not from you gregg. You are a confirmed liar, a founded
abuser, **** disturber and general scumbag.

What do those accusations have to do with a newspaper story
about the death rate in state care?

Who ARE you working for?


I am working for all the little girls out there whose mothers are to
stupid to realize guys like you should never be allowed around their
babies and they need to wake up, once that babies out the rules about
their own lives have changes dramatically. Its nor about them anymore.
Guys like you greggory scott hanson, come from mothers like these.


What ARE you trying to conceal?

what? put it together dumb ass

A report last year found that children in government care died at four
times the rate of those in the general population between 1986 and
2005. About 9,000, or one per cent, of all B.C. kids are in care,
half of
whom are aboriginal.


http://www.canada.com/theprovince/ne...2-4e2e9f2e5950

Mom: Why did my baby die?
Infant found dead days after being put in foster home

John Bermingham The Province Friday, September 21, 2007

NANAIMO - Rose Touchie wants to know why her four-month-old baby
Caroline died less than one week after going into foster care.

Choking back tears yesterday, the young Nanaimo mom told The Province
she's not getting any answers from the government.

"I'm just lost right now. I don't know what to do," she said. "The one
thing I want to know is why."

Social workers came to Rose's mother's home on Sept. 6 and took away
Caroline and her two-year-old sister, Cecilia.

They said they had reports the house, where all four lived, was untidy
and unfit for the kids.

On Sept. 11, Touchie, 20, was in court trying to get them back when
she was told there had been an incident at the foster home.

Caroline was fed at 2 a.m. and put to bed. But foster parents found
her lying on her stomach at 8.30 a.m., dead.

"What I want to know is why she went so long without being checked,"
Touchie said. "It's just common sense. I always checked on her every
hour. She was still a newborn."

Rose's mother, Corrina Touchie, 41, said Caroline had eczema on her
back and around the diaper line and was hospitalized in August for
five days.

"They [social workers] said the house was untidy and that they felt
the children were in danger," she said.

"She's a good mom. She loved the children.

"The house was untidy. She was trying to keep house and look after the
two babies."

The family laid Caroline to rest with her Ucluelet First Nation
ancestors on Tuesday, after relying on the kindness of others to cover
the burial costs.

Rose has hired a lawyer through legal aid to look for answers. And
she's back in court next week to regain custody of her other daughter.

B.C. child-welfare director Marilyn Hedlund wouldn't comment
specifically on the death but said in a statement: "We are deeply
saddened by the death of a child in care."

Vancouver Island regional coroner Rose Stanton said her office is
investigating.

"One of the tasks of the autopsy is to determine whether there's any
trauma, recent or historical," she said. "If there was anything
untoward about her condition, it will be documented and reported
back."

Nanaimo RCMP Const. Jen Allan said there is no criminal investigation.

The B.C. representative for children and youth, Mary Ellen Turpel-
Lafond, may conduct her own review of the death and provide a report
to the legislature.

"The family has been waiting for answers," said NDP children and
families critic Nicholas Simons, but the Children's Ministry is being
too defensive, he said.

"How are we supporting families with children? Is it a punitive
approach, or are we [taking] a supportive approach?"

B.C.'s child-protection system has been racked by crisis in recent
years.

In 2002, 19-month-old Sherry Charlie was beaten to death by a foster
father who officials knew had been convicted of domestic assault.

A report last year found that children in government care died at four
times the rate of those in the general population between 1986 and
2005. About 9,000, or one per cent, of all B.C. kids are in care, half
of whom are aboriginal.



© The Vancouver Province 2007

http://www.canada.com/theprovince/ne...2-4e2e9f2e5950

A report last year found that children in government care died at four
times the rate of those in the general population between 1986 and
2005. About 9,000, or one per cent, of all B.C. kids are in care, half
of whom are aboriginal.

Marley and J. :
Aren't these future users of alt.adoption?

On Sep 23, 1:03 pm, Greegor wrote:
http://www.canada.com/theprovince/ne...fdf804-2174-40...

A report last year found that children in government care died at four
times the rate of those in the general population between 1986 and
2005. About 9,000, or one per cent, of all B.C. kids are in care, half
of whom are aboriginal.

Marley and J. :
Aren't these future users of alt.adoption?

Only if they are adopted.

Unless you expect them to land up here to protest that they were not
adopted.

Otherwise, they may be future users of wherever these cross-posts are
coming from.

wrote in message
ups.com...
On Sep 23, 1:03 pm, Greegor wrote:
http://www.canada.com/theprovince/ne...fdf804-2174-40...

A report last year found that children in government care died at four
times the rate of those in the general population between 1986 and
2005. About 9,000, or one per cent, of all B.C. kids are in care, half
of whom are aboriginal.

Marley and J. :
Aren't these future users of alt.adoption?

Only if they are adopted.

Unless you expect them to land up here to protest that they were not
adopted.

Otherwise, they may be future users of wherever these cross-posts are
coming from.

Right. Anything over the age of 3 is damaged goods They are unadoptable
and will stay in fostercare.

Marley