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So the FAQ Is On Our Side! ( Can anybody point me to any of these
In article , EdAugusts says...
Banty wrote: In article , Suzanne says... There are a lot of vague references to said charters and "reporting people for spam", but not one person yet has yet posted a link. Any of ya actually got one? tick tick tick.... TIME'S UP Well THAT's fair. :-/ There is no formal charter since misc.kids evolved out of another group when many of the newsgroups were renamed, but there *is* a FAQ posted in misc.kids.info, with this link: ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/news.a...kids/faq/part1 Which contains: * Please do not post advertisements. misc.kids is a non-commercial newsgroup. Reviews and discussions of commercial products relating to children are appropriate, although they would be more appropriate in misc.kids.consumers. Hmmm! "Reviews and discussions of commercial products relating to children are appropriate...." Which, I must point out, would NOT include the sellers of the products pushing them. Thank You! Case Dismissed! P.S., I think you're wrong about the evolution of ' misc.kids.' These group names haven't changed in at least 18 years...since before there was a 'web'. Look up the Great Renaming. I think Wikipedia has a decent article on it (or part of an article). And Usenet exists quite apart from the "web" and predates Google, DejaNews, and even the old webcrawlers. Banty |
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Can anybody point me to any of these famous misc.kids.etc & alt.mothers newsgroup "charters" ?
In article , aula says...
"Suzanne" wrote in message ... Nobody here seems to object to all the vioxx, celebrex, fako Rolex watches, and other garbage going on here that truly IS spam. So tell me, why is that? Why don't any of you object to that? Most readers ignore one post wonders OR report them to their ISP's for spamming. When a repeater arrives then they are usually told, in no uncertain terms, that they are violating the norms of the group. Doesn't matter how many times he protests or gets his friends to protest, pushing a product that is for sale is spamming. Now, if he wants to join in the OTHER conversations in the group and talk on those topics and only leave the product info as a sig line, well that becomes a different thing entirely. Then he becomes a part of the group, leaves the info politely available for those who might wish to use it, and that is fine. The people here are trying to educate him to that norm. He can choose to listen or not. The group can choose to accept him, ignore him, report him, or not. Absolutely. Then people who *want to*, can take the intiative to investigate a product. Banty |
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So the FAQ Is On Our Side! ( Can anybody point me to anyof these famous...
Ericka Kammerer wrote:
EdAugusts wrote: P.S., I think you're wrong about the evolution of ' misc.kids.' These group names haven't changed in at least 18 years...since before there was a 'web'. Good heavens, does your arrogance know no bounds? Misc.kids.pregnancy was not created until 1994. Several of us were around then to remember it, not to mention that anyone (including yourself) is capable of googling and verifying when it was established. Ericka, Far from being a newbie, I used to post quite a bit on misc.kids, back when there was only one misc.kids, and as far as I can see, misc.kids itself is still around. What happened was not a "name change" at all. It was a split off into two related groups. That's entirely different. S. -- === Visit my fun corner of the world :-) http://www.SuzCorner.com |
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So the FAQ Is On Our Side! ( Can anybody point me to anyof these famous...
Suzanne at SuzCorner wrote:
Ericka Kammerer wrote: EdAugusts wrote: P.S., I think you're wrong about the evolution of ' misc.kids.' These group names haven't changed in at least 18 years...since before there was a 'web'. Good heavens, does your arrogance know no bounds? Misc.kids.pregnancy was not created until 1994. Several of us were around then to remember it, not to mention that anyone (including yourself) is capable of googling and verifying when it was established. Ericka, Far from being a newbie, I used to post quite a bit on misc.kids, back when there was only one misc.kids, and as far as I can see, misc.kids itself is still around. What happened was not a "name change" at all. It was a split off into two related groups. Um, where did I say any different? Banty also made clear that m.k.p evolved out of another group (m.k), though if you go back and look at the CFV you will see that there were more than two groups involved in the misc.kids.* reorganization. Either way, the name "misc.kids.pregnancy" didn't even exist 18 years ago, and the m.k FAQ applies, just as Banty said, because it is the "lead" group in the m.k.* hierarchy. Frankly, however, this is all in the angels dancing on pinheads category, as the main point is that advertising (which this clearly is) is not acceptable in these newsgroups, and being insulting and arrogant (which the thin veneer of "content" is, even construed in the best possible light) is unwelcome just about anywhere regardless of the charter. Ignoring netiquette is poor manners, and so is being insulting to group members, and if *you* care about your brand image, you would be more concerned about the ugly light cast on it by your surrogate's behavior than you would be about defending his inappropriate behavior. Best wishes, Ericka |
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So the FAQ Is On Our Side! ( Can anybody point me to anyof these famous...
Suzanne at SuzCorner wrote:
[snip] Ericka, Far from being a newbie, I used to post quite a bit on misc.kids, back when there was only one misc.kids, and as far as I can see, misc.kids itself is still around. What happened was not a "name change" at all. It was a split off into two related groups. That's entirely different. S. There was both a name change and a split. In about 1987, almost every newsgroup in existance at the time changed its' name. Net.kids changed its' name to misc.kids. Im about 1994, misc.kids split into several newsgroups. -- Penny Gaines usenetting since 1993 |
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So the FAQ Is On Our Side! ( Can anybody point me to any of these famous...
I really don't understand why everyone is feeding this person's
self-importance. Just kf the idiot and forget he/it/they exist. /shrug Angela /back to lurk mode |
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So the FAQ Is On Our Side! ( Can anybody point me to any of these famous...
Dizzysmamma wrote:
I really don't understand why everyone is feeding this person's self-importance. Just kf the idiot and forget he/it/they exist. /shrug It's probably fun to have one of those damn spammers who actually talks back and he's getting spanked for the sins of all his ilk. Mind you, Ed lost me with his over use of caps, there's only a certain amount of eye-pain I'll put up with for the entertainment value. |
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So the FAQ Is On Our Side! ( Can anybody point me to any of these famous...
"Dizzysmamma" wrote in message ... I really don't understand why everyone is feeding this person's self-importance. Just kf the idiot and forget he/it/they exist. /shrug Angela Oh but angela! It is more fun to prod them and see how far they are going to take these specious arguements. Entertainment value alone makes these threads fascinating reading! /me offers popcorn and tim tams Now, if you want to talk about kids......DS is turning 13, has a broken arm [cast of course], and is going into seventh grade, homeschooled, in the fall. I'm a crazy woman doing various crafts and life goes on. /me offers coffee too since it is sunrise in Vermont. So, who else thinks this is a highly amusing thread and is ready to pull up a lounge chair with me? A, fresh from travian /back to lurk mode |
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Can anybody point me to any of these famous misc.kids.etc & alt.mothersnewsgroup "charters" ?
Suzanne wrote:
There are a lot of vague references to said charters and "reporting people for spam", but not one person yet has yet posted a link. Any of ya actually got one? tick tick tick.... TIME'S UP Well as you use giganews.com you may as well read the AUP: Net Etiquette and Abuse Each newsgroup can be considered as a separate "community", where those who regularly use the newsgroup have standards for what is appropriate and what is not. These standards can vary from one group to the next. Many groups have written charters and FAQs that reflect a consensus of those who regularly use the newsgroup. You should always read posts in a newsgroup to learn what is considered appropriate before posting to that newsgroup. For a listing of charters and FAQs on various subjects, be sure to check out www.usenetfaqguides.com. At Giganews, we would like every member to have the best experience possible with the newsgroups. We do not, however, wish that to be at the expense of others. The newsgroups are comprised of people from diverse backgrounds. When communicating with people on the newsgroups, it is best to keep in mind that there are many other people that read what you post. Please consider the views and feelings of everyone who might read your posts and give them the same consideration and respect as you would like to receive yourself. # Commercial Posts Commercial posts are frowned upon in nearly every newsgroup. Most groups do not welcome contributions from a business or commercial website. # Promotional Posts Promoting a business, a website, or an organization will usually be considered as spam, in nearly every newsgroup. This can even include inviting visitors to a 'personal', 'public service', or charitable website. Crossposting A few binary newsgroups, such as certain music groups, encourage posting to more than one group at the same time, as long as the content is appropriate to each newsgroup. The majority of binary groups and almost all text groups, however, discourage any form of crossposting. Please consider that a thread in a text group may begin as appropriate to two newsgroups, but followups may soon become "off topic" in one of the groups Abuse Reports Reports of abuse can be sent to Oh, and look. A handy e-mail link Every time you cross post, God kills a kitten -- scrum (\_/) Procrastinator bunny says: ( . .) "I'll conquer the internets tomorrow" C(")(") |
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