guns in the house

"Dusty" wrote in message ...

"lm" wrote in message
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On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 21:44:23 -0500, "Dusty" wrote:


[snip]

Oh don't be such a pill. Look at my posting history. I'm not trying to
inflame anything. I've just moved to a part of the country where
attitudes toward gun use and ownership are very different to what I'm
used to and I'm interested in learning how other people from other
areas see the issue. I'm thinking that my own attitudes may have to be
revisited in light of my children's reality. That being the case, I
thank you for the comments you made that actually address the
questions I raised, and I'll ignore the polemic crap in which you
packaged it.

lm

Since I don't care to go traipsing through 100,000+ newsgroups, I'll
decline
on attempting to trace your previous postings. But I do believe that your
original posting about firearms was exactly that, a blatant attempt to
start
a flame war. But, that's my opinion, live with it.

So, did you find yourself moving to the land of Deliverance? Or did you
just move to the city? Perhaps something in between, then?

I'd suggest that you go down to the local Rod and Gun Club and ask them if
they sponsor the NRA's Safe Hunter Course. If I remember it, the course
is
2-3 days (a fair amount of both hands on and book reading - loads of
question and answer time!!). An extremely well thought out course! I'd
recommend it to anyone who's thinking of owning a hand-gun, rifle or
shotgun
(or already owns one).

Hell, take the course even if you only want to know what to do with a fire
arm. What they're about, how to safely handle them, storage, history,
etc..
You'll have an eye opening, mind expanding time. I can all but guarantee
it!


Unless you use guns on a regular basis, for hunting or perhaps an occupation
(police) I don't understand the need to own a gun. I may live in Canada,
but it would be quite easy to obtain a Firearms Certificate and possess a
gun if I wished. But the thing is I don't feel the NEED to own a gun. Just
because the Constitution says you can, doesn't mean you should. I fired a
gun for the second time in my life (all this year) and I was very good, but
the thing I felt when it was in my hands is what an awesome responsibility
that was, too much I think for the average person.

Christine

"Joelle" wrote in message
...

Who the hell are you and do you have anything to say about being a single
parent?

A. I'm the person you can't stand to speak their mind.
B. Yes, I do. And I said it in my previous post.


Or are you just popping up to assert your right to own a gun AND be an
asshole?

C. No. I'm exorcising my right of free speech. If that bothers you, too
bad.
D. As for being an asshole.. Well, Joelle, you appear to do that quite
well all by yourself.

Joelle
The world is a book and those who do not travel read only one page - St
Augustine
Joelle

"turtledove" wrote in message
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"Dusty" wrote in message
...

Oh don't be such a pill. Look at my posting history. I'm not trying to
inflame anything. I've just moved to a part of the country where
attitudes toward gun use and ownership are very different to what I'm
used to and I'm interested in learning how other people from other
areas see the issue. I'm thinking that my own attitudes may have to be
revisited in light of my children's reality. That being the case, I
thank you for the comments you made that actually address the
questions I raised, and I'll ignore the polemic crap in which you
packaged it.

lm

Since I don't care to go traipsing through 100,000+ newsgroups, I'll
decline
on attempting to trace your previous postings. But I do believe that
your
original posting about firearms was exactly that, a blatant attempt to
start
a flame war. But, that's my opinion, live with it.

Jeez, calm down there trigger! She's been a regular on this list for
years.

BFD, she's been here for some time. What's your point?

Obviously you've never seen a real blatant attempt to start a flame war.

Heh, I wouldn't say that...


So, did you find yourself moving to the land of Deliverance? Or did you
just move to the city? Perhaps something in between, then?

I'd suggest that you go down to the local Rod and Gun Club and ask them
if
they sponsor the NRA's Safe Hunter Course. If I remember it, the course
is
2-3 days (a fair amount of both hands on and book reading - loads of
question and answer time!!). An extremely well thought out course! I'd
recommend it to anyone who's thinking of owning a hand-gun, rifle or
shotgun
(or already owns one).

Hell, take the course even if you only want to know what to do with a
fire
arm. What they're about, how to safely handle them, storage, history,
etc..
You'll have an eye opening, mind expanding time. I can all but
guarantee
it!


***eegads****

*b

ps. bubble bath

:-)

"CME" wrote in message
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[snip]


Unless you use guns on a regular basis, for hunting or perhaps an
occupation
(police) I don't understand the need to own a gun. I may live in Canada,
but it would be quite easy to obtain a Firearms Certificate and possess a
gun if I wished. But the thing is I don't feel the NEED to own a gun.
Just
because the Constitution says you can, doesn't mean you should. I fired a
gun for the second time in my life (all this year) and I was very good,
but
the thing I felt when it was in my hands is what an awesome responsibility
that was, too much I think for the average person.

Christine

Weather you have a "need" or an "occupation" that demands you have a fire
arm, is not the point. The original questions where to see if parents where
fearful about guns and those guns being around their children. Not if one
should or should not have a gun and the reason(s) associated with it.

I don't feel I have a "need" to own a fire arm. But I do have the -right-
to have them. And it is a right that I fully exorcise.

Good for you for getting out to the range and having some fun!

And I agree with you to the extent that in owning of, and in the use of,
fire arms is indeed an incredibly awesome responsibility. A responsibility
that comes with it terrible consequences if misused or abused. But it is
also a responsibility that comes from education and demands constant
respect. The average person is, IMO, more then up to the task of this level
of responsibility - with proper training and education.

And yes, my children know I have fire arms. They know right where they are.
I don't hide them from my kids. But like a lighter or matches sitting on a
table, untouched by human hands, it will never start a fire on it's own
volition. Neither will a fire arm grow legs and run to the corner store and
shoot some one in a hold-up. For that to happen it takes a human being.
And my kids know that my fire arms are mine - not theirs. If they so much
as touch them with out me around -and- with my permission... heads will
roll!

But, I also have taught them how to handle my fire arms in a safe manner.
What to look for when someone hands you a weapon, what's the first thing you
do? You check to see if the safety is on and if it's loaded. They know
what to do. Which is a lot more then I can say about some adults...

"Dusty" lifted the trapdoor, peered around and wrote:

And there is no need
to be fearful if you've taken the time to educate yourself and your children
in the use of firearms.

This will be why 11000 Americans kill each other with guns each year?

"steveb" wrote in message
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"Dusty" lifted the trapdoor, peered around and wrote:

And there is no need to be fearful if you've taken the time to educate
yourself and your children in the use of firearms.

This will be why 11000 Americans kill each other with guns each year?

Which is a problem because...?

;-)

(Runs away very fast and hides in a very, very deep hole)


--
Paul Griffiths

steveb wrote in message
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"Dusty" lifted the trapdoor, peered around and wrote:

And there is no need
to be fearful if you've taken the time to educate yourself and your
children
in the use of firearms.

This will be why 11000 Americans kill each other with guns each year?

Well, frankly, people know damn well cigarettes will probably kill them and
don't stop. Why should people stop owning guns? lol Basically, I think
Dusty's point was that those NOT educated pose a threat.

T

Paul Griffiths wrote in message
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"steveb" wrote in message
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"Dusty" lifted the trapdoor, peered around and wrote:

And there is no need to be fearful if you've taken the time to educate
yourself and your children in the use of firearms.

This will be why 11000 Americans kill each other with guns each year?

Which is a problem because...?

;-)

That is a pretty insensitve statement Paul. The problem is that sometimes
its someone's kid or loved one. There could be those on this NG who lost a
loved one as a result of an uneducated gun owner. Just wanted to let you
know that statement was hardly funny.


T

Alex Nemeth wrote in message
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On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:51:17 GMT, lm
wrote:

Do you have them?


Not any more - gave up hunting & trap shooting - saw no need to keep
them. Although will probably get a .22 rifle for Varmint hunting in
the near future


What kind?

Rifles & Shotguns - Have fired handguns in Target practice


Where/how are they kept?

Top Shelf in Bedroom Closet
Locked in Gun Cabinet

Safety cables through the barrel's and out the breach.



What about in your extended family's homes?

Yes - Rifles & Shotguns - All Hunters


What about guns in your kids' friends' houses?

not sure what your looking for here.


Do you know?

Usually

Do you care?

Depends on the people involved


Do you let them play there?

Usually - again depends upon the people involved.


How old are your kids?

now - 19 & 23
Then - ????


Other tidbits of information that may prove to be helpful.

I currently live in a Rural community more or less. Hunting,
Trap/skeet Shooting are a part of this area, even more so for this
part of the state. I pretty much came back to live in this area
when I was about 15, prior to that I lived in
Cleveland/Akron/Stubenville Ohio. Prior to coming back here ( NY )
Guns were used for other things, usually not so pleasant. And yes I
was "almost" on the wrong end of a handgun ( interesting tale behind
this ) not a pleasant thought at 15.

I hunted / shot competitively for 3 years, Never really got into it.


I also live in a area that is known for hunting. (shut up Paul F....lol)
Everyone has a gun of some sort it seems. I don't particularly want guns
around kids but they are. Kids need to be taught safety.

T

He's one of *those*... like the bubble bath guy. Apologies in advance
to the bubble bath guy if I've invoked your presence.

Oh--googles "Gun ownership" and then asserts his "rights" Doesn't give a damn
about the online community - certainly not single parents. Gotcha.

Joelle
The world is a book and those who do not travel read only one page - St
Augustine
Joelle