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Todd Gastaldo wrote:
Herb Denenberg: Please immediately scroll to the end of this post. Massive obstetric emergency. POOR KIDSı DENTISTS: ³DENTAL THERAPISTS² Dental therapists apparently do fillings for poor people (not just children) who regular dentists wonıt serve... HERB DENENBERG, a member of the National Academy of Sciences says: ³Dental therapists are now deployed in 42 countries including Australia, Canada, England, and New Zealand.² (Full article below.) Attention Oregon Attorney General HARDY MYERS ): Herbıs full article (reproduced below) is titled: HOW THE DENTAL PROFESSION DENIES CARE TO CHILDREN WITH ROTTING AND INFECTED TEETH, AND PERFORMS MORE LIKE A MONEY-GRUBBING BUSINESS THAN A PROFESSION.(SERIES) Hardy, surely it is ILLEGAL for dentists to abuse their licensing privilege and ³money-grub² at childrenıs expense? It is SORT of like how obstetricians are ignoring childrenıs welfare and closing birth canals up to 30% and robbing babies of up to 50% of their blood volume. See the very end of this post. MAYBE we should have dental therapists in the US? This is a valid question. Yes, the ADA opposes licensing of lesser-trained auxiliaries for what is currently within the scope of dental licenses. Examples are the so-called "denturism" movement, in which technicians are trained to dispense dentures directly to the public. I believe denturism is legal in most or all of Canada. The only state I'm aware of in the U.S. which permits licensing of denturists is Oregon. Hygienists have also lobbied in recent years for the right to practice independent of dentists, though I don't think this movement has gotten too far. The idea behind these technicians is that less extensively-trained people will work for less money, and this is true--up to a point. The cost of maintaining an independent practice is very high, and clear profit to the dentist is only one of these costs. (Most dental offices run at an overhead of 70-80%, and overheads higher than this are far from rare). So there is a question of just how much actual savings there would be to the patient. The other issue is whether licensing paraprofessionals who are not as extensively trained will put patients at potential risks. The ADA quite naturally thinks it will, but the (admittedly limited) information I have seen indicates that any risk is minor. The devil is, as always, in the details. There is a denturist who contributes regularly to sci.med.dentistry named Roy Brown. I believe he is in the Toronto area. Years of familiarity with Brown have convinced me that he is more than qualified to provide high-quality dentures to the public. What I don't know is whether he can provide them for a significantly lower fee than the average dentist. I'm sure that you, Todd, went to school for a long time, and it is certainly possible that paraprofessionals could be taught to dispense certain chiropractic services with far less academic training than you have. If it is done right, this may well be a good thing. We just don't want to do it wrong, because that is not going to be to anyone's benefit. Steve -- Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS http://www.dentaltwins.com Brooklyn, NY 718-258-5001 |
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STRANGLED BABIES/WHY DO DOGS LICK THEIR TESTICLES? See the very end of this post... Attn: Oregon Attorney General Hardy Myers ) Mass child abuse - please end it. Steven Bornfeld, DDS wrote: Todd Gastaldo wrote: Herb Denenberg: Please immediately scroll to the end of this post. Massive obstetric emergency. POOR KIDSı DENTISTS: ³DENTAL THERAPISTS² Dental therapists apparently do fillings for poor people (not just children) who regular dentists wonıt serve... HERB DENENBERG, a member of the National Academy of Sciences says: ³Dental therapists are now deployed in 42 countries including Australia, Canada, England, and New Zealand.² (Full article below.) Attention Oregon Attorney General HARDY MYERS ): Herbıs full article (reproduced below) is titled: HOW THE DENTAL PROFESSION DENIES CARE TO CHILDREN WITH ROTTING AND INFECTED TEETH, AND PERFORMS MORE LIKE A MONEY-GRUBBING BUSINESS THAN A PROFESSION.(SERIES) Hardy, surely it is ILLEGAL for dentists to abuse their licensing privilege and ³money-grub² at childrenıs expense? It is SORT of like how obstetricians are ignoring childrenıs welfare and closing birth canals up to 30% and robbing babies of up to 50% of their blood volume. See the very end of this post. MAYBE we should have dental therapists in the US? This is a valid question. Yes, the ADA opposes licensing of lesser-trained auxiliaries for what is currently within the scope of dental licenses. Examples are the so-called "denturism" movement, in which technicians are trained to dispense dentures directly to the public. I believe denturism is legal in most or all of Canada. The only state I'm aware of in the U.S. which permits licensing of denturists is Oregon. Hygienists have also lobbied in recent years for the right to practice independent of dentists, though I don't think this movement has gotten too far. The idea behind these technicians is that less extensively-trained people will work for less money, and this is true--up to a point. The cost of maintaining an independent practice is very high, and clear profit to the dentist is only one of these costs. (Most dental offices run at an overhead of 70-80%, and overheads higher than this are far from rare). So there is a question of just how much actual savings there would be to the patient. The other issue is whether licensing paraprofessionals who are not as extensively trained will put patients at potential risks. The ADA quite naturally thinks it will, but the (admittedly limited) information I have seen indicates that any risk is minor. The devil is, as always, in the details. There is a denturist who contributes regularly to sci.med.dentistry named Roy Brown. I believe he is in the Toronto area. Years of familiarity with Brown have convinced me that he is more than qualified to provide high-quality dentures to the public. What I don't know is whether he can provide them for a significantly lower fee than the average dentist. I'm sure that you, Todd, went to school for a long time, and it is certainly possible that paraprofessionals could be taught to dispense certain chiropractic services with far less academic training than you have. TODD REMARKS: The chiropractic profession was BUILT by people with far less academic training than I have. As a consequence, the chiropractic profession is focusing on hypothetical secondary mechanical irritants called "vertebral subluxations," ignoring its BROADSCOPE fundamental hypothesis that disease is caused by noxious irritation of the nervous system by mechanical, chemical and/or psychic factors in the internal and external environments. After having been in spinal adjusting practice and seen remarkable responses following spinal adjustments, I sincerely BELIEVE vertebral subluxations exist and cause disease and stop causing disease when adjusted - but to my knowledge this has never been scientifically demonstrated. The chiropractic profession could adjust spines AND adjust/remove obvious noxious psychic (educational) irritants that are killing and paralyzing babies as they (noxious psychic irritants/obstetricians) likely cause more putative vertebral subluxations than chiropractors will ever be able to adjust by hand. Regarding "paraprofessionals" practicing chiropractic... ANYONE - licensed degreed or not - can adjust/discuss/expose these obvious noxious psychic (educational) irritants - the Four OB Lies. Highly academically trained doctors of chiropractic are studiously IGNORING the Four OB Lies. Meanwhile obstetricians are wrenching babies' spines with birth canals closed the "extra" up to 30%. For further details (donıt miss the Four OB Lies * they are whoppers)... See ACOG's 2005 edition: How NOT to birth http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group...t/message/3606 See also: RNs: 'Stitches, episiotomy, and postpartum complications' (Maternal care learning needs) http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group...t/message/3725 Academic training is fine I suppose - but it isn't getting the chiropractic job done right. Obstetricians are out-of-control spinal manipulators - and academically trained chiros are silent. Regarding "dental therapy"... My impressionn was that Herb Denenberg was saying that academic training for DENTISTS isn't getting the job done right - children are suffering as a consequence - and as a consequence of that some countries are taking advantage of "dental therapists," as in, HERB DENENBERG, a member of the National Academy of Sciences says: ³Dental therapists are now deployed in 42 countries including Australia, Canada, England, and New Zealand.² (Full article below.) Steve Bornfeld, DDS concluded: If it is done right, [dental therapy] may well be a good thing. We just don't want to do it wrong, because that is not going to be to anyone's benefit. DENTISTRY is not being "done right"... The American Dental Association/ADA has been anti-scientifically hammering dentists who oppose putting the toxic substance mercury into the human mouth. The American Dental Association/ADA has also been anti-scientifically hammering citizens who oppose ADA's push to mass medicate with the cumulative poison fluoride. It is a CRIME for dentists to force even GOOD medicine on entire populations. Dentists are ignoring science and using public relations to manufacture consent to get people drinking poison. Part of the dental public relations campaign is calling the cumulative poison fluoride a "nutrient." Recently, a Harvard dental academic was caught concealing an epidemiologic link between the cumulative poison fluoride and osteosarcoma. Bottomline, the largest dental trade union has been abusing its licensure-derived political power WAY above and beyond the dental therapy question. That said, I agree with Steve Bornfeld, DDS that in bringing dental therapists to the US, we would want to do it right... Who would want to do it WRONG? BTW, I have heard something similar to the "we just don't want [them] to do it wrong" excuse used by chiropractors to stop physical therapists from manipulating spines. The fall-back position is licensure-derived political power... LICENSURE-DERIVED POLITICAL POWER... In November of 1982, the Public Affairs Research Group (PARG), 1826 Capitol Avenue, Sacramento, CA *95814 issued a Medical Board-commissioned report indicating that in the early days of licensure, medical associations were "virtually indistinguishable" from state licensing agencies. *According to the PARG report, "in California, the medical association still plays a significant role..." According to Medical Board staff analysis of the 1980-82 PARG study: "[T]he foremost advocates of licensure have been the members of health professions themselves, not the citizens they serve...While the professional associations used public protection to justify the need for licensure, the more immediate motivations appear to have been gaining control of health care delivery, elimininating competition, restricting supply, acquiring the mantle of orthodoxy and assuring desirable levels of reimbursement." (p. 7, PARG) Licensure-derived political power is out of control. Patient safety was the excuse - but the intent was (and I believe still is) political power for the licensed. It's not just dentistry. It's medicine and chiropractic too. STRANGLED BABIES AND LICENSURE-DERIVED POLITICAL POWER Keeping in mind that babies breathe through their umbilical cords... Licensure-derived political power is likely what is keeping licentiates of all professional stripes from stepping up to the plate to stop obstetricians from STRANGLING BABIES and robbing up to 50% of their blood volume. This is happening to EVERY CESAREAN BABY, according to retired obstetrician George Malcolm Morley, MB ChB FACOG... Regarding routine baby strangling...here is something I emailed recently to Oregon Attorney General Hardy Myers... ....AMERICAN MEDICINEıS **MOST** FREQUENT SURGICAL BEHAVIOR IS OBVIOUS CHILD ABUSE THE WAY OBSTETRICIANS PRACTICE IT... Retired obstetrician George Malcolm Morley, MB ChB FACOG is recommending that his fellow obstetricians temporarily strangle babies - to help obstetricians learn why they should not immediately clamp/cut umbilical cords thereby PERMANENTLY strangling babies/robbing them of up to 50% of their blood volume. Dr. Morley indicates that EVERY CESAREAN BABY is being robbed of up to 50% of his/her blood volume. HERE IS DR. MORLEY RECOMMENDING THE **TEMPORARY** BABY STRANGLING ON THE WEB... "[T]he umbilical cord [is] immediately closed between finger and thumb...The [fetal heart rate/FHR] will decelerate quickly to about 60 bpm...the color will change from purple-pink (normal at birth) to pallid blue (vaso-constriction and asphyxia.)...Few midwives or obstetricians will be able to observe, without interference, a deep, prolonged FHR deceleration on a non-breathing newborn for a period of 60 seconds.* Common sense will soon release the finger and thumb." http://www.cordclamping.com/acog-cp.htm Hardy [Oregon Atty Genl Hardy Myers], some OREGON obstetricians may be going to Dr. Morley's website and experimenting with his temporary baby strangling - as they engage in PERMANENT baby strangling - robbing babies of up to 50% of their blood volume. Dr. Morley MEANS well * but it is simply (obviously) illegal for him to encourage obstetricians to commit ³lesser² child abuse in order to encourage them to stop committing greater child abuse - robbing babies of up to 50% of babiesı blood volume. See Michigan Baby Strangler George Malcolm Morley, MB ChB FACOG http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group...t/message/3739 Again Hardy, I know that you may be unable to investigate MDs because you part of the medico-"legal" "just us" system... But at least offer assistance to pregnant women in your circle of family and friends, OK? STRANGLED BABIES/WHY DO DOGS LICK THEIR TESTICLES? This mass baby strangling/mass baby blood robbery is OBVIOUS - "visual" as Donna Young says. Why are obstetricians doing it? Why do dogs lick their testicles? Because they can. Licensure-derived political power is the sordid trick. Oregon Atty Genl Hardy Myers should be stopping it. But he isn't - at least he hasn't contacted me. I will cc Atty Genl Hardy yet again at . EVERYONE ought to be crying out to stop the grisly obstetric travesty. The Red Cross wouldn't take 50% of someone's blood! Thanks for reading. Sincerely, Todd Dr. Gastaldo Hillsboro, Oregon USA This umpteenth email Suspected Child Abuse Report to Oregon Atty Genl Hardy Myers will be archived in the Google usenet archive. Search http://groups.google.com for "Strangled babies/Why do dogs lick their testicles?" |
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