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Another reason why spanking is safe in America
Opinions wrote: ..snip......... Even kids understand that there is a difference between being paddled by a stranger at school and being spanked by a parent at home. So you think they'd much rather be spanked by someone they know, is that it? That is one reason why teachers and other mandated reporters under CAPTA are out of the loop. With the mess that currently passes for public education, teachers are no longer seen as saviors. Oh, the "mess?" Really? You can support that claim? One of the standards most used in the past to claim that education was going to hell was the claim that SATs were so poor. From the time of William "the ethics king" Bennett, these kinds of claims were made...all for the profits to be generated by scare tactics...the Chicken Little claims, with the Turkey Lurky reactions by stupid people such as you. I don't hold with SAT scores being the correct measure of how PSing is going, because not every child wants to go to college, or needs to, given the reality of employment and our economy (most jobs are in the service and hospitality sector, nor engineering and science), but just to show you the scale of the lies perpetrated on the US public, and you, dummy, have a gander on the SAT score issue: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...oogle+Searc h collegeboard.com - Press - Releases - Article Washington, DC-The College Board announced SAT® scores today for ... For the class of 2005, the average SAT math scores continued their strong upward trend ... www.collegeboard.com/cbseniors - 22k - Nov 7, 2005 - Cached - Similar pages collegeboard.com - Press - Releases - Article "Higher SAT scores, a record number of test-takers, and more diversity add ... Math Scores Continue Upward Swing. The average score on the math section has ... http://www.collegeboard.com/press/ar...,26858,00.html - 15k - Cached - Similar pages [ More results from www.collegeboard.com ] [PDF] Attention Upward Bound Juniors! You MUST register to take the SAT .... File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML Upward Bound requires students to take the SAT in the spring of their. junior year. Most colleges use the SAT score from your junior year to help ... www.equity.psu.edu/ub/docs/sat_notice_jrs.pdf - Similar pages CALIFORNIA / SAT I scores rise in math, verbal tests statewide ... .... the SAT I and that math scores have continued their upward trend nationwide. .... Nationwide, math scores continued their upward trend, growing to 520 ... sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2005/08/31/BAGD0EFKAH1.DTL - 28k - Cached - Similar pages Hawai'i's latest SAT scores nudge upward - The Honolulu Advertiser ... Hawaii's Newspaper Online, Hawaii news and information from the state's largest daily newspaper. the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2005/Aug/30/ln/FP508300340.html - 58k - Cached - Similar pages AutoAdmit.com - Chances with low GPA, high SAT score, upward GPA ... Would this score nullify my other bad, old SAT score? Could my SAT scores, essay, and upward GPA trend still give me a chance at the colleges of my choice? ... http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?th...c=8&forum_id=1 - 19k - Cached - Similar pages Onward and upward: Enrollment, freshman SAT scores continue to rise Onward and upward Enrollment, freshman SAT scores continue to rise ... The average SAT score in Georgia was 969 and for the country the average was 1016. .... www.uga.edu/columns/991101/front2.html - 11k - Cached - Similar pages UNH Upward Bound Pipeline Student Newsletter .... Seniors: Do all your colleges have your SAT scores? ... Senior CollegeAcceptances; Spring SAT I Dates; Recruitment of New Upward Bound Students ... www.upwardbound.unh.edu/pipelinearchive.html - 28k - Cached - Similar pages CNN.com - SAT math scores hit 30-year high - August 29, 2000 Math scores continued an upward trend, increasing by three points from 1999 ... Verbal SAT scores have remained stable at 505 for the fifth year in a row. ... cnnstudentnews.cnn.com/2000/US/08/29/sat.scores.01/ - 40k - Cached - Similar pages 2004 SAT Scores for DoDEA Released Strong Gains in SAT Verbal Scores Reported for DoDEA Students ... There has been a consistent upward trend in the math scores of DoDEA's Hispanic students ... http://www.dodea.edu/communications/...ses/090705.htm - 18k - Cached - Similar pages You'll find that all other voluntary testing outcomes have the same results. Public schools seem to be doing an adequate to excellent job. It's the occasional failure, and the sickness of uneven funding that makes SOME schools give such a bad showing that are the problem, not "public education," but social incapacity to respond to social problems. About the only area of teaching that exceeds public school generally is homeschooing, and many of them DO send their children to public school for some coursework, and of course, college. I wish public school was better...but I know it's adequate except where it isn't....in the poor and minority enclaves of this country. A problem for society, not government. Government can't do what the public will not let them, and no elected official has made it into office EVER by saying let's help the POOR SCHOOLS AND STOP THIS UNEVEN DISTRIBUTION OF THE EDUCATION DOLLAR. No, they have, in their smarmy way, rather like you and the pack of fools that continue to defend assualt on children and call it "spanking," instead say, "I'm for improving 'the' schools." Yeah, sure. like the schools on the right side of the tracks are badly in need of yet another sports field and two computers per child. How DO you people get so dumb? Watch a lot of TV do yah? http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...00969?v=glance I know first hand, as I have experience in both the public and private sectors of education that there was a deliberate attempt to undermine public education back in the Reagan and Bush administrations for the sole purpose creating a profitable crisis. Check up on William Bennett and the educational programs HE and his his cronies brought to market in recent years. It's crap, educationally, but they have armies of salespeople in the field pushing their crap and with the excuse of all the "proof" of a "broken educational system." It's the big lie, written even bigger. A thoughtful reviewer had this to say about their book, and the times haven't change, but instead gotten worse as the fundy conservatives...rightests all....have come to profit by the lies they sowed in the those years: The Best Book on the So-called Education Crisis, June 22, 2000 Reviewer: Susan Nunes (Reno, NV United States) - See all my reviews Few subjects have been more lied about than the issue of the state of public schools. Berliner and Biddle, two academics in the field of education, methodically demolish every single lie, every single myth that's been perpetrated by the right wing in the past two decades. They dispel the myth of "declining" SAT scores, they take on the Reagan administration propaganda piece A NATION AT RISK, they dispute the notion that private schools are inherently superior than public schools... and they repeatedly show, with a truckload of documentation, what is right with public schools. One of the most notable parts of the book concerns a governmental report conducted during the Bush administration called "The Sandia Report." The report's researchers looked at existing studies about such diverse areas in education as teacher preparation, SAT scores, funding of schools, postsecondary education, and dropout/retention rates. Contrary to the gloom-and-doom of A NATION AT RISK, the researchers found that our educational system in the United States was, on the whole, in far better shape than the propaganda had claimed. Unfortunately, the Bush administration squelched the report as it did not support its preconceived notions on the state of education in America. It wasn't until 1993 when the report was finally released. Berliner and Biddle describe how the report had to be rewritten and rewritten to fit the Bush mold. Still, the results of the study weren't good enough. This was a major and unreported scandal during the Bush years.... Berliner and Biddle do acknowledge there are problems in the public schools; for example, the increased numbers of immigrants and the disparities in funding of different school districts in different states. These are REAL problems which require increased spending, unlike the anti-public school propaganda which states the public schools are failures and the only way to save them is to give taxpayer money to private schools via vouchers, which in turn starve the public schools even more for funding and the quality goes down even further. At bottom, the anti-public school propaganda campaign is a campaign against our very form of democracy and social mobility which has made this country great. Berliner and Biddle provide ample ammunition to counter the anti-public school lies. Kane |
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