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| U.N. rules Canada should ban spanking
On Thu, 09 Oct 2003 09:54:34 -0500, "Michael S. Morris"
wrote: Thursday, the 9th of October, 2003 Ray Drouillard wrote: Committee on the Rights of the Child issues decision in Geneva http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=35000 [...] The U.N. body says Canada should "explicitly prohibit all forms of violence against children, however light, within the family, in schools and in other institutions where children might be placed." [...] Paul: For more context, http://www.unog.ch/news2/documents/newsen/crc0338e.htm and the report by the Canadian delegation http://www.unog.ch/news2/documents/newsen/crc0329erev1.htm I'm not sure that any context could make this kind of action against the corporal punishment of children in the home other than outrageously objectionable. You are outraged that you cannot bully, humiliate, injure, torture, your children at your whim? Fancy that. It seems to me a prime example of legislation by people who appoint themselves as scientific experts on stuff that science cannot possibly address, On the contrary. Science does address this issue. Brain scan studies show that distractions inhibit and distract from learning tasks, and if you aren't spanking to teach what ARE you doing it for? and then bolster social engineering programs with "studies" that do not show what they purport to show. "Social engineering" is what YOU do when you proport to teach children using physical and psychological pain. Your opponents at least aren't taking you literally out behind the woodshed. Whose the more honorable party, those that want parents to learn how to teach their children without the deliberate use of pain and humiliation or those, such as you, that want to continue to lie to each other about what you are doing. In my opinion, the decline of the widespread acceptance of spanking in the US is directly correlated with the widespread bad behaviour of children in the US, not to mention a whole lot nastier set of adults. Actually you are completely wrong. In the US, for instance, some of those "unscientific" studies show that 90% or more of citizens report they have been spanked. Children are being spanked at at least the same, or possibly greater rates than in the past and more abuse is an outgrowth of spanking that didn't work (as it mostly doesn't) so was escalated to injury. The nastiness you are experiencing in people comes precisely from being humiliated and tortured by parents who believe your nonsense. Non spanked children are consistently better behaved and far less likely to be involved in criminal activity. And I don't mean that a child who is spanked then when not spanked for a few weeks shows signs of improvement. I mean a consistently gently parented child. It looks to me like US conservatives were exactly right to oppose this Convention. What makes you think the idea of not spanking children is exclusive to liberals? I'm a conservative and I consider those that spank either stupid, ignorant, or vicious, not to mention socially maladjusted because of the spankings they got as a child. I know plenty of other conservatives that agee with me, and rather a lot of liberals who do NOT extend their politics to their child rearing practices. They spank. Mike Morris ) Have a good one, Mike. Kane |
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