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Mark, when are you going to get off your lazy behind and research
anything? There are UNIVERSITIES in the USA dedicated to naturopathic medicine. Many (probably most) health insurance companies will reimburse the cost of naturopathic care. Naturopathic doctors study the clinical sciences just like conventional doctors. They can be licensed by the state. Why not ask the naturopathic doctor to show you their license? They go through 4 years of graduate school after premed school. Get a clue, fool. Conventional medicine tries to stop health insurance companies from dealing with naturopathic medicine because they do not want the competition. Many conventional doctors will secretly go to naturopathic doctors when they can't solve their own health problems. |
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Brad_Chad wrote:
Mark, when are you going to get off your lazy behind and research anything? There are UNIVERSITIES in the USA dedicated to naturopathic medicine. Many (probably most) health insurance companies will reimburse the cost of naturopathic care. Naturopathic doctors study the clinical sciences just like conventional doctors. They can be licensed by the state. Why not ask the naturopathic doctor to show you their license? They go through 4 years of graduate school after premed school. Get a clue, fool. Conventional medicine tries to stop health insurance companies from dealing with naturopathic medicine because they do not want the competition. Many conventional doctors will secretly go to naturopathic doctors when they can't solve their own health problems. Thank you ! * * |
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"Blues Ma" wrote in message ... Mark Probert wrote: "Blues Ma" wrote in message ... Mark Probert wrote: "Brad_Chad" wrote in message ups.com... Have you seen a naturopathic doctor? Naturopathic doctors get just as much education as conventional doctors, but they can solve many problems a conventional doctor can't. Naturopathic doctors should be licensed by the state, and they should actually be required to attend school. Some get their "degrees" from schools that advertise on match book covers. Further, the claim that they get as much education as a REAL doctor is specious. What they are taught is useless. "Naturopathic doctor" is the politically correct term for "witch doctor." Too broad a generalization. Nope. I was being way to kind. I could have called them fakirs, frauds and fools. The entire idea is, AFAIAC, fraud. Gotta try one or two and see what they have to offer. I do not have to try jumping off the Golden Gate Bridge to know that it is not a good idea. Likewise, after observing the harm done by these witch doctors, I do not have to go to them to know they are useless. We all know there are plenty of ****ty, indifferent MDs out there. So what? At least their training has a basis in reality. Clearly,.......................................... yours does not. Wrong. AFAIAC, naturopathy is just another form of hocus-pocus medicine. |
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"Brad_Chad" wrote in message oups.com... Mark, when are you going to get off your lazy behind and research anything? There are UNIVERSITIES in the USA dedicated to naturopathic medicine. If you wish to use a fallacious argument, then note that there are more universities dedicated to real medicine than this brand of hocus pocus medicine. As for your other comment, what makes you "think" that I have not researched it? The fact that I do not agree with your faulty conclusions is not a sufficient basis, using logic, to conclude that I have not researched it. Many (probably most) health insurance companies will reimburse the cost of naturopathic care. Another reason why health insurance costs are so high. Paying for useless treatment that does not do anything. Naturopathic doctors study the clinical sciences just like conventional doctors. They can be licensed by the state. Why not ask the naturopathic doctor to show you their license? Some can show the matchbook cover where they applied for their degree. They go through 4 years of graduate school after premed school. Get a clue, fool. OOOOOOOOOOHHHH....name calling..... Conventional medicine tries to stop health insurance companies from dealing with naturopathic medicine because they do not want the competition. I see conventional medicine trying to stop naturopathic medicine since cleaning up the mess left behind by some naturopaths is far harder than treating the condition correctly in the first place. I was in the hospital recently and shared a room with a fellow who is a diabetic and sought treatment from a naturopath. He nearly lost his legs. Many conventional doctors will secretly go to naturopathic doctors when they can't solve their own health problems. If they go in secret, how do you know this? Another of your unsubstantiable claims. |
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Mark Probert wrote:
"Blues Ma" wrote in message ... Mark Probert wrote: "Blues Ma" wrote in message ... Mark Probert wrote: "Brad_Chad" wrote in message ups.com... Have you seen a naturopathic doctor? Naturopathic doctors get just as much education as conventional doctors, but they can solve many problems a conventional doctor can't. Naturopathic doctors should be licensed by the state, and they should actually be required to attend school. Some get their "degrees" from schools that advertise on match book covers. Further, the claim that they get as much education as a REAL doctor is specious. What they are taught is useless. "Naturopathic doctor" is the politically correct term for "witch doctor." Too broad a generalization. Nope. I was being way to kind. I could have called them fakirs, frauds and fools. The entire idea is, AFAIAC, fraud. Gotta try one or two and see what they have to offer. I do not have to try jumping off the Golden Gate Bridge to know that it is not a good idea. Likewise, after observing the harm done by these witch doctors, I do not have to go to them to know they are useless. We all know there are plenty of ****ty, indifferent MDs out there. So what? At least their training has a basis in reality. Clearly,.......................................... yours does not. Wrong. AFAIAC, naturopathy is just another form of hocus-pocus medicine. I don't argue with idiots. * * |
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"Brad_Chad" wrote in message ups.com... Have you seen a naturopathic doctor? Naturopathic doctors get just as much education as conventional doctors, but they can solve many problems a conventional doctor can't. Natuiropathic medicine has not been shown to be effective at anything (other than taking money from patient's pockets). http://www.naturowatch.org/ There is a good book called "Voodoo Medicine" by Robert Parks that I recommend you read. Jeff |
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wrote in message .. . Let me begin by telling you that I am not an allergy sufferer; however, I have a new stepdaughter who has terrible allergies to what appears to be everything under the sun. Her father, my husband, has custody over the girl and her brother for a two-week long period during the spring. Naturally, he wants his children to come to our house, which includes as its residents a Persian feline (who will be vacationing at my friend's home for the length of the girl's stay) and an admittedly untidy woman. Of course, I plan on cleaning top to bottom before the girl arrives. It may take some time, as the cat has lived here a while and has laid claim to all available surfaces as her personal shedding grounds. I'll also stock the kitchen with enough ice cream and Benadryl to keep my stepdaughter content for her next fifty visits. Any other advice for temporarily allergy-proofing my home? Have you talked the child's mother about what treatment she thinks might be helpful as well as the girl's experience with cats? It may very well be that the girl has had major problems with cats in the past. perhaps taking some non-drowsy nonprescription anti-histamines will take care of the problem. Or perhaps, she is around cats all the time without any problems. I would suggest talking to the mother about the meds that the girl is taking, any emergency procedures that are needed (e.g., having an Epipen on hand) as well as info about the girl's doctor, so that you can contact her in case she is experiencing problems as well as her experience with cats. BTW, I do realize that you may have done all of these things already. However, even if you have, I think these are helpful reminders for other families in a similar situation. Jeff |
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"Blues Ma" wrote in message ... Mark Probert wrote: "Blues Ma" wrote in message ... Mark Probert wrote: "Blues Ma" wrote in message ... Mark Probert wrote: "Brad_Chad" wrote in message ups.com... Have you seen a naturopathic doctor? Naturopathic doctors get just as much education as conventional doctors, but they can solve many problems a conventional doctor can't. Naturopathic doctors should be licensed by the state, and they should actually be required to attend school. Some get their "degrees" from schools that advertise on match book covers. Further, the claim that they get as much education as a REAL doctor is specious. What they are taught is useless. "Naturopathic doctor" is the politically correct term for "witch doctor." Too broad a generalization. Nope. I was being way to kind. I could have called them fakirs, frauds and fools. The entire idea is, AFAIAC, fraud. Gotta try one or two and see what they have to offer. I do not have to try jumping off the Golden Gate Bridge to know that it is not a good idea. Likewise, after observing the harm done by these witch doctors, I do not have to go to them to know they are useless. We all know there are plenty of ****ty, indifferent MDs out there. So what? At least their training has a basis in reality. Clearly,.......................................... yours does not. Wrong. AFAIAC, naturopathy is just another form of hocus-pocus medicine. I don't argue with idiots. Thanks for the heads up. I won't bother dealing with you. |
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"Blues Ma" wrote in message ... Mark Probert wrote: "Blues Ma" wrote in message ... Mark Probert wrote: "Blues Ma" wrote in message ... Mark Probert wrote: "Brad_Chad" wrote in message ups.com... Have you seen a naturopathic doctor? Naturopathic doctors get just as much education as conventional doctors, but they can solve many problems a conventional doctor can't. Naturopathic doctors should be licensed by the state, and they should actually be required to attend school. Some get their "degrees" from schools that advertise on match book covers. Further, the claim that they get as much education as a REAL doctor is specious. What they are taught is useless. "Naturopathic doctor" is the politically correct term for "witch doctor." Too broad a generalization. Nope. I was being way to kind. I could have called them fakirs, frauds and fools. The entire idea is, AFAIAC, fraud. Gotta try one or two and see what they have to offer. I do not have to try jumping off the Golden Gate Bridge to know that it is not a good idea. Likewise, after observing the harm done by these witch doctors, I do not have to go to them to know they are useless. We all know there are plenty of ****ty, indifferent MDs out there. So what? At least their training has a basis in reality. Clearly,.......................................... yours does not. Wrong. AFAIAC, naturopathy is just another form of hocus-pocus medicine. I don't argue with idiots. I assume you do not have any mirrors. http://www.quackwatch.org/01Quackery...hy/misrep.html |
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There is this place called fantasy land. In fantasy land conventional
doctors never make medical mistakes. In Mark's world, health insurance companies keep paying naturopathic doctors keep even though they do NO good. Why don't these consumer fraud news reporters ever report this? Did you ever try asking a naturopathic doctor for references from their patients, Mark? Speaking of name calling, I seem to recall somebody calling naturopathic doctors witch doctors. Is that brave? Calling educated people names when they are not here to defend themselves. I noticed that you had to rely on a story that somebody told you. Let me tell you a story from my personal experience. As a child I had a chronic fatigue problem. I saw several doctors. They could not figure out what the problem was, so I had to get on with life anyway. In my 20's I started getting bad hayfever. I took hayfever medicine. In my 30's I got severe joint pain. I also had gastrointestinal problems. My conventional doctors didn't have a clue. One day while in the supermarket, I read a magazine article about hidden food allergies. I found out that I was sensitive to corn (corn starch, corn syrup, etc.) and dairy products. I had to stop eating most processed foods because they often contain ingredients made from corn. I now buy most of my food from health food stores. Then I found out that if I had seen a naturopathic doctor I would have found out about my hidden food allergies years ago. Naturopathic doctors look for hidden food allergies. My energy level started to skyrocket. My joint pain started to disappear. My hayfever started to disappear, and my gastrointestinal problems are improving. I don't know about your friend, Mark. Did he check the license of the naturopathic doctor? How do you know if he followed the doctors orders? Maybe he has a grudge against naturopathic doctors for another reason? Why can't I know that conventional doctors secretly see naturopathic doctors? If the naturopathic doctors don't release their names, what difference does it make? I then started to have gastrointestinal |
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