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Undercover In High School
'Kate wrote: On 6 Nov 2006 18:17:59 -0800, "Bev" the following was posted in blue dry erase marker: 'Kate wrote: On 6 Nov 2006 15:05:48 -0800, "Bev" the following was posted in blue dry erase marker: I hear about more deaths of our teens, at least here in this State, caused by alcohol. I have never heard of someone dying from over intoxication of pot....... Yeah, but you never know what lung cancer rates will look like in 20-30 years. That 8hit ain't filtered (bongs excepted). Yeah, but there are more and more cases of lung cancer surfacing in people that never smoked so much as a ham ! smirk There are several types of lung cancer and many causes. And yes, people who have never smoked can get lung cancer. However, the incidence rate for smokers is higher than nonsmokers (of anything). So yes the long term effects of pot smoking could lead to lung cancer you are right. Speaking of bongs, I think I was the plant that night ...yowzaaa! Pot does lower inhibitions. Oh yes and how embarassing that can be ! People who are high act stupid. at least they have a good reason for it....what about the stupid people that arent high? g Some stare at plants. or as I said up there ^ ......are the plants! roflol! Others have "pipe dreams". Paranoia. Munchies. and when they try to quit, if they've been smoking often, they will get insomnia and can become aggressive/angry. seriously ......yes I know there are the down falls of being a stoner ..... Also the driving accidents that are killing our kids are alcohol related. It's DUI... doesn't mean alcohol.. anything that alters reality/perception is worthy of a DUI. Oh I know this ! What I see tho is that the front page stories of our teens dying in car wrecks, it is found that 99.9 percent of the time Alcohol is most definately involved in both driver and occupants levels being well over the legal limit for legal users of alcohol. So here we have our children consuming this stuff and getting in cars! Where as other substances are not mentioned as a contributor to the accident. I dont think there are as many stoners getting killed in car wrecks as there are alcohol consumers....... How would anyone know? Alcohol abuse is the one we hear about the most because of organizations like MADD. Alcohol is the first suspected substance when an accident happens... you can smell it on the person, there are cans or bottles, it's the one that is tested for by breathalyzer. It takes a urine test to prove pot was a factor and if a suspect tests positive, it doesn't mean that the person was smoking that day. It could have been smoked at any time within 9 weeks of the test (if the person uses daily). Because of the slow rate of "getting clean", it's easy for a lawyer to get a user off because the test cannot show that the person was impaired at that particular time. Alcohol, however, has a definite rate of absorption and... disabsorption? We know that it takes a shorter time for alcohol levels to drop. Accurate info .....my point is/was that the news stories are not saying pot was a factor or coke was a factor etc in the accident, they can tell by toxicology exams that there may have been "levels" of other drugs and will report it but not too often do we hear those levels were a contributing factor in the cause for the accident . Alcohol on the other hand is more often noted as a factor . Pot = illegal = munchies....good treatment for "wasting syndrome" Alcohol = legal = death hello ! Oh and if I lost brain cells in all of that I'm not noticing them missing lol! Matter of fact I'm pretty telligent ! ;-) yes, you are! Confucius say ......maybe it was the pot! ....... J/K of course :-) Bev Ah.... what? :-) 'K Ah...you heard me er read me...lol! Bev |
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Undercover In High School
"'Kate" wrote in message ... On Tue, 07 Nov 2006 00:53:15 GMT, "Tiffany" the following was posted in blue dry erase marker: "'Kate" wrote in message . .. On Mon, 06 Nov 2006 21:39:48 GMT, "Tiffany" the following was posted in blue dry erase marker: And I know that pot is always condemned the gate-way drug and for many it probably is. But not everyone becomes a junkie after smoking pot. Tobacco is now the new "gateway" drug. I don't know if that's because the powers that be have decided that it is a "drug" so now they study it differently. 'K So then it should be illegal?? lol It should atleast demand that smokers pay a higher price for their drug of choice. They do. The price of a pack is more than doubled by taxes in most areas. Still not enough and the taxes should go to health care. But just my opinion. They should also have to pay higher premiums for health insurance but I think other classes of folks should pay higher premiums too BUT that is a whole other newsgroup. |
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Undercover In High School
"'Kate" wrote in message ... On Tue, 07 Nov 2006 00:57:09 GMT, "Tiffany" the following was posted in blue dry erase marker: I will on occasion look through the friends friends list...... always checking for that hidden myspace. lol Me too! LOL Kids.... they keep you on your toes. Some days I just want to say screw it.... do what you want! But that doesn't last more then an hour. I can relate to that. I don't want to know everything that's going on in my children's lives. They know, by this age, how to hide something from me. They can always go to each other for advice and help and often do. Between the three of them, they usually come up with the right thing to do. 'k That's all you can ask for, right? (I am glad I am not the only parent that My Space snoops. lol) |
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Undercover In High School
"'Kate" wrote in message ... On Mon, 06 Nov 2006 23:44:27 GMT, "Moon Shyne" the following was posted in blue dry erase marker: My kids know, bottom line, they have no rights. They live in my home, on my nickel, while the rest of the nickels pay for everything around here. Yes, if it's in plain view, it was there to be seen. Yes, I have the right to go into their rooms at will. Yes, I have the right to their usernames and passwords for email (and if they don't work, I will force them to cancel). They're kids. I'm the adult. If they break the law, the law will find me, as their parent, responsible. Damn right! And ya know what? It works, at least here. The worst trouble my oldest got into was to be on the receiving end of a punch to the face (for which the puncher was found guilty) - the worst trouble my younger has gotten into was detention for being late to class. Wow... you've done a GREAT job keeping your kids safe! They talk to me - sure, probably not about everything everything, but certainly about the important stuff (opposite sex, drugs, all that stuff), when and if I catch them lying, it's about the little stuff (like being home by curfew versus 20 minutes late)... And in return for following the rules of the house, respecting me as the keeper of the goodies, and staying in school and out of trouble, they are allowed their privacy. It works for us. Rules sure do make parenting easier. You wouldn't believe the number of parents and kids that don't know and don't set rules. "They should know"... um.... how? Tell them what you expect and check up. I didn't expect my kids to get into what they did but they were caught right away when they made bad decisions. They were told. They chose not to follow the rules. They payed the price. They know I'll test. The schools here are rife with drugs. The community that I live in is ineffective at controlling illicit drugs. All the kids know which house sells. It's a shame. It makes everyone unsafe. 'K Don't feel bad..... I think most schools are ripe with drugs now a days. I also will test on a drop of a dime. And she will pay for the test. lol |
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Undercover In High School
"'Kate" wrote in message ... On Tue, 07 Nov 2006 13:55:34 GMT, "Tiffany" the following was posted in blue dry erase marker: "'Kate" wrote in message . .. On Tue, 07 Nov 2006 00:53:15 GMT, "Tiffany" the following was posted in blue dry erase marker: "'Kate" wrote in message m... On Mon, 06 Nov 2006 21:39:48 GMT, "Tiffany" the following was posted in blue dry erase marker: And I know that pot is always condemned the gate-way drug and for many it probably is. But not everyone becomes a junkie after smoking pot. Tobacco is now the new "gateway" drug. I don't know if that's because the powers that be have decided that it is a "drug" so now they study it differently. 'K So then it should be illegal?? lol It should atleast demand that smokers pay a higher price for their drug of choice. They do. The price of a pack is more than doubled by taxes in most areas. Still not enough and the taxes should go to health care. But just my opinion. They should also have to pay higher premiums for health insurance but I think other classes of folks should pay higher premiums too BUT that is a whole other newsgroup. They pay higher life insurance rates. They also feed the system with social security money because they die sooner... and they don't use the same ongoing level of care once they're older. Lung cancer takes'em pretty quickly. My understanding of private health insurance policies is that they cost more for smokers and they often test for nicotine in the system. So what's next? Higher premiums for anyone who's 'obese', since that causes health problems too? What about people who drink alcohol? They're impairing their own health too...... as is anyone who picks up an STD, anyone who drives too fast, anyone with high cholesterol, or diabetes.... By the time you get done, everyone will fall into some group who "should also have to pay higher premiums for health insurance" And then we're right back at square one. |
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Undercover In High School
"'Kate" wrote in message ... On Tue, 07 Nov 2006 13:58:21 GMT, "Tiffany" the following was posted in blue dry erase marker: "'Kate" wrote in message .. . On Mon, 06 Nov 2006 23:44:27 GMT, "Moon Shyne" the following was posted in blue dry erase marker: My kids know, bottom line, they have no rights. They live in my home, on my nickel, while the rest of the nickels pay for everything around here. Yes, if it's in plain view, it was there to be seen. Yes, I have the right to go into their rooms at will. Yes, I have the right to their usernames and passwords for email (and if they don't work, I will force them to cancel). They're kids. I'm the adult. If they break the law, the law will find me, as their parent, responsible. Damn right! And ya know what? It works, at least here. The worst trouble my oldest got into was to be on the receiving end of a punch to the face (for which the puncher was found guilty) - the worst trouble my younger has gotten into was detention for being late to class. Wow... you've done a GREAT job keeping your kids safe! They talk to me - sure, probably not about everything everything, but certainly about the important stuff (opposite sex, drugs, all that stuff), when and if I catch them lying, it's about the little stuff (like being home by curfew versus 20 minutes late)... And in return for following the rules of the house, respecting me as the keeper of the goodies, and staying in school and out of trouble, they are allowed their privacy. It works for us. Rules sure do make parenting easier. You wouldn't believe the number of parents and kids that don't know and don't set rules. "They should know"... um.... how? Tell them what you expect and check up. I didn't expect my kids to get into what they did but they were caught right away when they made bad decisions. They were told. They chose not to follow the rules. They payed the price. They know I'll test. The schools here are rife with drugs. The community that I live in is ineffective at controlling illicit drugs. All the kids know which house sells. It's a shame. It makes everyone unsafe. 'K Don't feel bad..... I think most schools are ripe with drugs now a days. I also will test on a drop of a dime. And she will pay for the test. lol The threat alone gives them something to say when they're offered. "Sorry, I can't. Mom drug tests." lol... but only if mom suspects something. Kids can be so sneaky. Gotta love em. |
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SPAM
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