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For many foster children, hard life begins as adults
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A three-parter again folks..don't know why the newreader won't take
longer posts, but there yah go.......be prepared for some rich entertainment though. Part One of Three................ Through a fluke, Broward County receives more funding than it should for out of home care. Yet the Grand Jury in that County found that foster care continued to be a major problem, despite the increase in funding. To which, Kane replies: But, but, but....Doug, not a few months ago you claimed foster care was going down....did you not. And that the "problem" was being resolved, did you not? Hi, Kane, The size of the foster care population is one thing. Funding is another. I said that through a fluke Broward County is receiving more funding than it should for foster care. And, no, I did not say that the problems of abuse and foster care bounce were being resolved. Nor did I you said "bounce." Look at my statement above..not "bounce" in it. We have had this conversation before, only a few months ago, and you claimed foster care numbers were dropping...foster placement numbers being "the problem." And here we are, with MORE money, and the problem still in place. Any chance the problem is still money related? Like they have an abuse problem in Florida, and Broward specifically that requires more CPS services? 0:- Well, I think that Florida taxpayers would need to know that a 340% increase did not solve the problem. You already know my opinion. I have consistently maintained that money will not solve the problem. You want to claim the money is exacerbating the problem, stop using a correlation, (unprovable connection), and try some causal proofs. Got any? The problem is being driven by the increase...get that, INCREASE, in the numbers of substantiated cases the BSO is conducting. It's the county that went up, as I recall, while the others stayed level, despite your prediction abuse substantiations would fall by using "trained investigtors," r r r, which of course they did not have, and had to hire out of CPS and off the street. District 10 is now receiving $25,361,756 for out-of-home care, according to DCF figures, which is a 340% increase over the 1998 allocation. This calculates to approximately $6,000 per child in out-of-home care (foster care, shelters, relative placements, and group homes), according to DCF's Administration. " Despite the 340% increase in funding for out of home care, or most likely BECAUSE of it, DCF continues to employ caseworkers who are failing to meet regularly with their wards or comply with other regulations. This is were they go wacky. They think that foster care workers and caseworkers are the same, so they are using Caseworker when someone pointed out to the them FOSTER CARE WORKERS who do NOT do client case work, aren't doing "casework as required." R R R ...and you fell for it too...watch me prove it again, that there is a division of labor. This one got totally mucked up here. The Grand Jury notes that DCF, previously noted for its lack of accountablity, remains unwilling to supervise the work of its caseworkers. You seem to have missed that investigations...by BSO increased. That's hardly the work of DCF, now is it. The LE investigators do the removals, Doug. By their findings. No, no, no. Read the paragraphs again, Kane. The 340% increase was for out of home care, not investigations. Out of home care. Out of home care. There is nothing in the paragraph about increases in funding for out of home care that says anything about any increase in investigations. No, no, no, Douggie. The most simple logic, and recalling a fact or two, tells us that because ONE program got increased it does not follow that others didn't, and the fact? Historically? Easy. You know we discussed the fact that all the four counties showed they had higer costs per investigation by LEO. Do you think there was no money allocated to pay those higher costs? 0:- Give me some more of your logic. I could con'em at the craps table with that and walk away rich. LOL!! Yes, Douggie. LOL all you wish, and know how very hollow it appears after I point out your lapses in logic and fact. Unless they are in arrears, they have to pay salaries for those investigations. Think the sheriff's office waited to get paid? Or are you so ignorant that you do know, "caseworker" that services performed by one agency for another are billed the client agency? Even the AG's office bills for services. Not only is it a required accounting practice, it IS THE LAW in most states. Otherwise track is lost of the funding streams..and that is, as they say, naughty. "Unfortunately, foster workers, who are now referred to as Family Services Counselors, are often the lowest-paid, least-experienced DCF professional employees," the Grand Jury reports. "The demands on these workers can be tremendous. Although this Grand Jury has met several excellent foster workers, we have also seen the havoc a poor or lazy foster worker can create. Examples we have seen of the latter type of foster worker a a foster worker who failed to notify the foster parent of the foster child's potentially violent tendencies, knowing at the time younger foster children were in the home, and a foster worker who failed to perform a proper home study prior to the placement of children in a home where a known sexual offender lived." Well, I noticed this very paragraph, and something odd that brought the credibility of the grand jury into question. In the next sentence, that you left off, they start talking about this foster workers errors, but in fact the issues quoted were NOT foster at all, but worker...regular worker issues of failure. Very confusing. But then you like that because you can post out of context and play. No confusion, Kane. You have created a false duality that seems to bother you. The Grand Jury, the Independent research organization, nor I suffer by trying to base anything on your false duality. I would suggest you learn something about CPS field practice. No, I've created no false duality. They have missed the boat, and then you pushed into the water with YOUR igorance. If one reads through carefully and knows and understands government and specifically CPS organization and operations they know that foster families answer to TWO kinds of personnel from CPS. The child's worker, which can change in the wink of an eye, as children come and go, from many different workers, and their own "worker." A foster care worker, certifier in some states, various names around the country. Just how would a client caseworker keep track of all the foster families they place children with..they don't place all the children on their out of home caseload with ONE foster family. They can have 20 or 30 or more children on their caseloads. They certainly can make life interesting for a foster family, but any complaints or problems goes back through two supervisors to the FOSTER FAMILY WORKER, who does everything from accepting the first application, to doing the home study, which includes crimcheck handling, medical exam forms, handling references responses, financial statement review, local non-crim bg check inhouse and out, home inspection..then on to 90 day inhome checks and interviews with the foster kids and foster parents (the kids worker, a seperate entity does the 30 day or is supposed to), annual recertifications...a highly complex bit with review of foster parent training for the year, another home and grounds inspection, collecting water sample results in rural well areas, ...deary me it goes on and on. And how is this complex changing of the guard handled....different workers..in fact one for every child is possible, with a foster home? Which caseworker does the foster parent answer to, and when the foster parents needs something that isn't specific to a child, who do they go to? I'll tell yah. The foster home 'certifier' they are called around here. One each has about 50 foster families on their load...and it's not a "caseload" but simply a work load. And that's all they do, all the live long day, is ride herd on foster families. You, sir are an ignorant twit that puts up a wonderful front, but that's all it is. Want some citations...again? We went through similar before on division of labor in CPS worker units I've got a few, but a real careful reading shows how confused this GJ was...they are NOT experts in child welfare operations, nor should they be. That's not the purpose of a GJ, or the people that serve on them. Because of Florida's ongoing reform of privatization of foster care services, foster homes have increased and caseloads have gone down. A child in foster home does not lower caseloads, Doug. Anyone with a lick of knowledge would know, had they followed this over the past year or so, that the state had a great many open cases that were NOT being dealt with. Those cases are not close, but the remainder still require as much or more attention than they were getting before. Of course a child in foster care does not lower caseloads. Gee, we concur. Obviously we are making headway. 0:- That speaks nothing about the fact that foster care caseloads have dropped in Broward County, Florida. Considerably. Well, we have to consider if that's a real drop, or the closing of phantoms. Given the stories in the recent past about all those cases that were not closed, that now are, it follows, if one actually KNOWS CPS operations and field practice, that of course many of those were foster placements that in fact had no kid in the placement. They had gone home, as you know in many cases, and the file was not closed. If it wasn't closed, then the fact of foster place in the real word was skewed by recording a child as present when they were absent. These are the little things that give you away, phony. Oh. And the recent embarrassing exposure of malfeasance by these same contractors? Yep. They are being held accountable. DCF employees were not held accountable for their malfeasance. Oh dear, here we go AGAIN with the insane, turned on its head logic. You rabid anti Government types are full of this ****. Someone is not accountable, but they are fired, they are demoted, they are disciplined, and their malfeasance noted...yet somehow, "they are not accountable." What would "accountable" consist of in your book, Doug, a firing squad? Some here seem about that rabid. I don't approve of privatizing foster care. It's the point where children are at most risk in the system, naturally...because there is no way to have 24/7 oversight. Putting another layer between the worker and this child is NOT good. And it's very costly...as the state is learning. Well, the article you cited speaks about the increase of funding that went to pay for the privatizing of foster care. Yeeeees. You say the money led to improvement and cited the article. Was the number of kids in foster care not reduced? 0:- Maybe I misread you? So, it appears you believe that privatization has led to improvement. No, that does not logically follow. "Privatization" is a general term. So is "improvement." This is ONE such case, not all privatization. Some privatization...as I've said in the past, is NOT working out..and in fact in Florida we have examples of it. The scandals? You know, the ones you folks feel you must post 48 times in a row for fear someone might not notice and not be embarassed for being an "apologist." LOL. It appears that going private is a good investment. It depends on many factors. One of which will only tell in time. That would be the safety of the children. You haven't noticed the number of children that die or are injured in privatized foster care? I have. And it's written about here. Is your lodged to firmly and your ears and eyes blocked? The quality review study found that caseplans were terrible. Yes, and they, if memory serves, confused that with "foster care horrors." It's not related to foster care at all. Your duality. You don't understand the "Quality Review Study" is a two parter. One by a private firm, and this GJ report. They are in fact, in the GJ, confusing foster family workers with caseworkers, because, as I've seen many times before, the public, hell even the foster parents sometimes, confuse the two. I've seen foster parents calling the child's caseworker over their own recert paperwork being held up somewhere. That's the newbie foster parents. And the client caseworker directs them to please call their "certifier" the FOSTER PARENT WORKER for that business. DCF caseworkers did not involve parents, children and other family members to contribute to setting goals for the plans. (This is such a basic social work best practice, that it is unlikely safety plans constructed without parent input have ANY effectiveness whatsoever). Yep, and in states with money, Doug, they ARE involving more. Oh, so it takes more MONEY for caseworkers to follow the basics of their job and involve clients in setting goals for safety/treatment plans? No, it takes more TIME. Each case likely costs on average about the same, but the time is the same for each as well, and if one has more of them, eventually one runs out of time. Your logic would have them having no case load cap at all, and being held accountable for quality of work output. Brilliant, just brilliant..."caaaasssseeeewwwwooooorrrrkkkkkeeeeer rrr" R R R R R ....phony. At some point we know that quality of planning, setting, execution, and plain old work, is going to top out and begin to suffer...it's not malfesance or malpractice, it's mal funding....not enough money for enough workers to hold caseloads to the standards set by national review. Roughly 12 to 15 caseloads max for certain types of specialties (you still don't think there are many of those, do you Doug? R R R ) An investigator, for instance, can have a lot of cases, because they flow through their hands rather quickly. An ongoing worker, that is doing the execution and supervision of the elements of the caseplan...like those family unity meetings, etc. and appearing in court, etc. and running shotgun on emergencies, etc. can't handle as many. An adoption worker can handle more, usually, if they are doing only adoptoins, as was the case..and may be slipping now. Foster parent workers, my "certifiers" can and do handle up to 50 with enough experience, but often in the foster units it's divided up...new applicants through certification by one or two workers in the unit that do nothing else in busy urban practices, and ongoing certifiers that have to do the day to day year in year out drudge work with the foster families. In that case, it's reversed. The new applicants foster workers can only handle a few at a time, because the amount of work is so intense. I listed some items earlier. They usually have no more than 20 or so at a time, and many of those washout...bad crimchecks, bad financial statements, bad health reports, etc. Or just get terrified during the training when they start to glim on what the truth is about child abuse and what it does to children and what they will do to each other, the foster parents, and themselves as a result. I hope you are remembering some of this, because I'm considering a test smile because you seem to forget the education I've give you in the past and keep insisting I don't know casework field practice, Silly Boy. "The Quality Service Review also criticized many case plans as "cookie cutter" and "one size fits all", citing numerous instances where everyone was assigned the same or similar tasks regardless of the relevance of such assignments," said the Grand Jury. "It is very apparent to this Grand Jury that too many case plans have been prepared without regard to the foster child or the child's biological family's needs or concerns. Even more apparent is the fact that no supervisor was conducting meaningful reviews of these case plans." Sounds pretty bad to me. I notice you are cherry picking like mad, though. It is very bad. And the malpractice is going on in Broward County now. No it isn't. I Checked the hits I got were mostly all about medical malpractice suits in Broward, and I'm still trying to find an actual suit. Are are you just judging before the trial? Laying YOUR standards on, when you don't even know case practice standards, and barely understand policy? their biological families. The study questioned whether the group of professionals providing services to a particular foster child possessed the necessary collective technical skills, knowledge of the family, and access to resources to organize effective services for families with complex needs. Sounds like required spews. It's a very open ended kind of statement. One almost anyone could make about almost anyone else. I don't see the meat in the statement. It said the study "questioned." Not the study doubted, or found that it was not happening as it should. It was a question. Phrased to appear as though they found something that proved services weren't happening. It sounds like a very harsh criticism to me. Of course...to YOU. It was a question. This is NOT a panel of experts. They can't help but be a bit hesitant. They didn't even get it that their national foster care expert was nonplussed at their question why a foster care worker was not doing client casework duties. And you to are confused about that. YOu keep putting the spotlight on yourself. I guess if you learn enough from me it will be easier to con the young innocent Kane of the future that shows up here wonder what the hell you are selling and why. I might die next week. But there will always be someone like me Doug. And yah can't fool all of the people all of time, only some some of the time. Like your two dupes, boober and greegor, the two second bananas. They should, of course, as the grand jury, question a great many things. I'm glad they do. Me, too. .....end part one of three........... |
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