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Old March 24th 05, 06:13 PM
Melissa
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Default 13 reasons not to vaccinate

1. Disease decline
2. Disease dangers
3.Vaccine safety
4.Governments eg ACIP committee
5.Vaccination self-policing
6.Vaccine ingredients
7.Contaminants
8.Medical politics
9.Vaccine failure
10. Disease theory
11. Long term effects
12.Vaccine costs
13. Misplaced Trust

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Old March 24th 05, 07:44 PM
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MDs MOSTLY *ANTI*-IMMUNIZATION

See below

After Melissa posted her 13 reasons not to vaccinate...

wrote:
13 Reasons to Vaccinate:

1. Measels
http://www.med.sc.edu:85/mhunt/meas4.jpg

2. Mumps
http://homepage1.nifty.com/nakamurapc/photo/mumps.jpg

3. Rubella
http://www.immunize.org/images/slides/slide18a.jpg

4. Polio
http://www.immunize.org/images/slides/slide10a.jpg
(my personal favorite:
http://www.immunize.org/images/slides/slide08a.jpg )

5. Tetanus
http://www.immunize.org/images/slides/slide03a.jpg

6. Hepatitis
http://www.immunize.org/images/slides/slide21a.jpg
http://www.immunize.org/images/slides/slide22a.jpg

7. Diptheria
http://www.immunize.org/images/ca.d/...61/img0001.htm

8. Pertussis
http://www.immunize.org/images/slides/slide07a.jpg

9. Influenza
http://www.stanford.edu/group/virus/uda/

10. Varicella
http://www.immunize.org/images/slides/slide24a.jpg

11. Pnuemonicoccal Disease
http://www.immunize.org/images/slides/slide26a.jpg

12. Small Pox
http://www.immunize.org/images/slides/slide27a.jpg

13. Expert Opinions:
http://www.cdc.gov/nip/
http://www.fda.gov/fdac/features/2001/vaccside.html
http://www.cispimmunize.org/
http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/collection/immunization

Love & kisses,
Amy


Melania replied:


Good girl, Amy!! Thanks for posting this!

Melania
Mom to Joffre (Jan 11, 2003)
and #2 (edd May 21, 2005)


Melania,

Ostensibly "pro-immunization" MDs are concealing a vaccine adverse event
(failure-to-immunize) as
they fraudulently promote their vaccinations as being 100% effective as they
(in effect) deny massive numbers of babies massive numbers of free daily
immunizations.

MDs have no business hiding the fact that breastfeeding women scan the
environment for pathogens and manufacture immunizations.

MDs have no business hiding the fact that breastfeedings are immunizations
which reportedly make MD-needle-vaccinations work better...

MDs are mysteriously concealing a SIMPLE way to make both the immunization
(breastfeeding) and vaccination rates skyrocket.

See Breasts as doctors (also: Medical Veritas)
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group...t/message/3284

MDs are also temporarily asphyxiating babies and robbing massive
amounts of blood volume from them (up to 50%).

MDs are committing this robbery of baby blood volume in order to obtain (rob
from babies) powerful IMMUNE cells called stem cells.

The medical euphemism for this latter obvious medical crime is "immediate
cord clamping."

Amy is a "good girl" to be sure - but she is inclined to intellectual
dishonesty (snipping key facts) and blind trust in doctors...

Umbilical assault (also: Amy: Futue te ipsum et caballum tuum : )
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group...t/message/3211

Whatever the case with the benefit of vaccinations...

It is obvious that MDs are quite ANTI-immunization - anti-immunizations that
reportedly make MD-needle vaccinations work better.

Most bizarre - sort of like MDs closing birth canals up to 30% and keeping
birth canals closed the "extra" up to 30% when babies get stuck, etc.

Todd


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Old March 25th 05, 12:10 AM
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Melania wrote:

Good girl, Amy!! Thanks for posting this!


Thanks Melania and Sue and Nan!!

Ironically, it was a very similar post that got me drummed off of the
iVillage boards. Just goes to prove the vast superiority of usenet.

PS - Todd - I plan to vaccinate both via needle and via breast, so
you're preachin' to the choir. IIRC, aren't the "vaccinations" given
via breastmilk only temporary (until the baby forms its own immune
system)?

Amy

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Old March 25th 05, 01:52 AM
Todd Gastaldo
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WAIT TILL AGE TWO TO VACCINATE?

See below.

wrote in message
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Melania wrote:

Good girl, Amy!! Thanks for posting this!


Thanks Melania and Sue and Nan!!

Ironically, it was a very similar post that got me drummed off of the
iVillage boards. Just goes to prove the vast superiority of usenet.

PS - Todd - I plan to vaccinate both via needle and via breast, so
you're preachin' to the choir. IIRC, aren't the "vaccinations" given
via breastmilk only temporary (until the baby forms its own immune
system)?


Amy,

IMMUNIZATIONS provided by mom in breastmilk are passive immunizations - the
baby's immune system is growing - with mom's help.

VACCINATIONS... WHO recommends breastfeeding to age two "and beyond" (I
think) and Prof. Donald Miller, MD recommends waiting until age two to begin
vaccinating...

Prof Miller writes:

Before a child reaches the age of two he or she will have received 32
vaccinations on this schedule, including four doses each of vaccines for
Hemophilus influenzae type b infections, diphtheria, tetanus, and
pertussis - all of them given during the first 12 months of life. Seven
vaccines injected into a 13 lb. two-month old infant are equivalent to 70
doses in a 130 lb. adult.
The schedule states, "Your child can safely receive all vaccines
recommended for a particular age during one visit." Public health
officials, however, have not proven that it is indeed safe to inject this
many vaccines into infants. What's more, they cannot explain why,
concurrent with an increasing number of vaccinations, there has been an
explosion of neurologic and immune system disorders in our nation's
children.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/miller/miller15.html

INCREDIBLE VACCINATION FACTOID...

No vaccination studies where a control group was not vaccinated...

Prof Miller writes:

The CDC has not done any studies to assess the long-term effects of its
immunization schedule. To do that one must conduct a randomized controlled
trial, the lynchpin of evidenced-based medicine, where one group of
children is vaccinated on the CDC's schedule and a control group is not
vaccinated. Investigators then follow the two groups for a number of years
(not just three to four weeks, as has been done in vaccine safety
studies). Concerns that vaccinations in infants cause chronic neurologic
and immune system disorders would be put to rest, and their safety
certified, if the number of children who develop these diseases is the
same in both groups. No such studies have been done, so vaccine proponents
cannot say that vaccines are indeed as safe as they think they are. (One
proponent, interviewed by Dan Rather on 60 Minutes, who has financial ties
to the vaccine industry that he did not disclose, claims that vaccines
"have a better safety record than vitamins." He neglected to mention that
the U.S. government has paid out more than $1.5 billion in its Vaccine
Injury Compensation Program to families of children who have been injured
or killed by vaccines.)


AGE TWO - SINGLE VACCINES - SPACED EVERY SIX MONTHS...

Prof. Miller writes:

"...a user-friendly vaccination schedule requires that vaccinations, after
the age of two, be given no more than once every six months, one at a time,
in order to allow the immune system sufficient time to recover and stabilize
between shots."
http://www.lewrockwell.com/miller/miller15.html



Todd



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Old March 25th 05, 02:05 AM
Jamie Clark
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I big reason for me to vaccinate...

I had to sign a form saying that I would vaccinate my children, in order to
complete our adoptions.

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Jamie
Earth Angels:
Taylor Marlys, 1/3/03 -- Little Miss Manners, who says, "No skank you" and
"Tank you very much, momma."
Addison Grace, 9/30/04 -- The Prodigy, who can now roll over, and pull
herself to standing while holding onto someone's fingers!

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"Melissa" wrote in message
oups.com...
1. Disease decline
2. Disease dangers
3.Vaccine safety
4.Governments eg ACIP committee
5.Vaccination self-policing
6.Vaccine ingredients
7.Contaminants
8.Medical politics
9.Vaccine failure
10. Disease theory
11. Long term effects
12.Vaccine costs
13. Misplaced Trust



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Old March 25th 05, 02:06 AM
Jamie Clark
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wrote in message
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13 Reasons to Vaccinate:

1. Measels
http://www.med.sc.edu:85/mhunt/meas4.jpg

2. Mumps
http://homepage1.nifty.com/nakamurapc/photo/mumps.jpg

3. Rubella
http://www.immunize.org/images/slides/slide18a.jpg

4. Polio
http://www.immunize.org/images/slides/slide10a.jpg
(my personal favorite:
http://www.immunize.org/images/slides/slide08a.jpg )

5. Tetanus
http://www.immunize.org/images/slides/slide03a.jpg

6. Hepatitis
http://www.immunize.org/images/slides/slide21a.jpg
http://www.immunize.org/images/slides/slide22a.jpg

7. Diptheria
http://www.immunize.org/images/ca.d/...61/img0001.htm

8. Pertussis
http://www.immunize.org/images/slides/slide07a.jpg

9. Influenza
http://www.stanford.edu/group/virus/uda/

10. Varicella
http://www.immunize.org/images/slides/slide24a.jpg

11. Pnuemonicoccal Disease
http://www.immunize.org/images/slides/slide26a.jpg

12. Small Pox
http://www.immunize.org/images/slides/slide27a.jpg

13. Expert Opinions:
http://www.cdc.gov/nip/
http://www.fda.gov/fdac/features/2001/vaccside.html
http://www.cispimmunize.org/
http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/collection/immunization

Love & kisses,
Amy



I love it!

--

Jamie
Earth Angels:
Taylor Marlys, 1/3/03 -- Little Miss Manners, who says, "No skank you" and
"Tank you very much, momma."
Addison Grace, 9/30/04 -- The Prodigy, who can now roll over, and pull
herself to standing while holding onto someone's fingers!

Check out the family! -- www.MyFamily.com, User ID: Clarkguest1, Password:
Guest
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Password


 




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