The numbers are NOT falling.

I have watched you post disinformation and the industry's biased, one
sided viewpoints on this matter for years, Mark Probert.

Why have YOU not admitted that you were disbarred and apologized to
all the people who you have lied to ... and who have then lied for
you????

http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.or...WatchWatch.htm

PS ... we all know you read my work ... that's another lie you repeat.

Further, I have never read anyone claim that thirerosal was the ONLY
cause of autism ... that's just more propaganda from you Healthfrauds.

Where is David Kirby???

http://www.evidenceofharm.com/

EVIDENCE OF HARM WINS 2006 INVESTIGATIVE REPORTERS AND EDITORS AWARD =
FOR MORE INFO

PRAISE FOR
"EVIDENCE OF HARM"

“Kirby follows the tug of war between government health agencies and
the parents and their supporters. Kirby does an admirable job of
clarifying most of the scientific background (but) doesn't offer his
own verdict on the debate -- although he makes the unassailable point
that American health agencies lagged in calculating the amount of
mercury being injected into babies.” – The New York Times & The
International Herald Tribune

“Kirby's portrayal manages to make his protagonists seem far from
crazy. They have been derided as dangerous anti-vaccination zealots,
but Kirby sets their focus on the mercury-based vaccine preservative
thimerosal against ‘modern science's near-religious faith in all
things genetic.’ The battle rages on, and while Evidence of Harm
offers no prospect of a truce, it does provide crystal clarity on an
often misunderstood side of the argument.” – The Washington Post

“Evidence of Harm is a gripping investigation. Much like the 9/11
commission's report, it is an alarming page-turner. Keep your eye on
California, where autism cases are closely tracked. If autism-related
diagnoses decline over the next year or two following the introduction
of thimerosal-free vaccines, the finding will further fuel this
simmering controversy.” -- Newsday

Avoiding hyperbole while writing about a possible medical catastrophe
is no easy task, but David Kirby has created a fine balance of
investigative and personal detail in Evidence of Harm. Combining
stories from the parents of autistic children with reports, speeches
and studies from researchers, pediatricians and government officials,
he creates a picture that is as terrifying as anything dreamed up by
Hitchcock. The book is never dull--there is a continual urgency in
the material that resists pedantry. However undecided the experts,
readers will likely land firmly in one angry camp or the other. --
Amazon.com

“Perhaps, as evidence accumulates, the thimerosal theory may be
validated. Perhaps not. Inquiry into the etiology and treatment of
autism continues, though the seeming finality of the IOM report may
stifle important research into environmental causes. Kirby’s book, as
biased as it is, prompts us to dig deeper into this vital issue. One
can only hope that medical and lay readers alike will react to the
book responsibly, with both skepticism and an open mind.” -- The
Lancet

“Kirby delivers a well-written story that weaves in startling facts
and takes you on a roller-coaster ride into the homes of families
devastated by autism. It tells tales of government bureaucracy and
political cronyism that, if true, are appalling. It took me several
weeks to read Evidence of Harm. Maybe it was the detail-filled
narrative from the parents' point of view that made me put the book
down every so often and walk away. I shared their pain, their anger,
their feeling of helplessness.” -- Bloomberg News


_______________________________________

ALAN CLARK - IN MEMORIAM

Dr. Alan Clark, a founder of No Mercury, an anti-thimerosal activist
and the husband of Lujene Clark, passed away this February after a
valiant battle with lung cancer. He will be deeply missed. Please
visit the tribute to Dr. Clark at the website of

ahhhhhhh, I thought I recognized the name of Mark Probert
Thanks for the reminder


Could you cover what to say when someone says, "My doctor says that
vaccines are safe as the mercury has been removed".

Thank you,

Many reasons numbers are not falling..............age of diagnosis is
one.

Mercury out of vaccines? -


1. Mercury has NOT totally been removed from vaccines (especially in
the UK where huge numbers were given until last year with mercury)
A. Those that say mercury-free, private testing has shown there is
still mercury
B. Many still have a trace of mercury
C. And many have full amounts of mercury - many flu vax (adult &
children) DT, tD, etc.

2. Mercury is NOT the only problem with vaccine


Contamination with mycoplasma and bacteria
Contamination with monkey viruses
Contamination with RNA, DNA
Aluminum and other adjuvants
The new preservative replacing mercury in some vaccines - 2PE
Other additives in vaccines - vary according to the vaccine - msg,
formaldyhyde, antibiotics, phenol, sorbitol, gelatin and more
The antigen itself and how it effects the immune system
The whole theory is in error - stimulation of antibodies does not give
immunity - antibodies do not mean immunity - the are signs of exposure,
but one small aspect of the immune system
No long term research
No comparison in research with placebo group - only another vaccinated
group
Ignoring post marketing data of reactions, injury and death
No individualization - one size fits all
No screening for immune problems and allergies
Children and adults have reacted with injury and death after MMR which
never had mercury in it

3. The vaccine itself - antigen and all and how it affects the immune
system - is very harmful to the body and brain.
4. MMR still being given - the last straw after so many mercury
vaccines setting up the susceptibility?
MMR may not even need the set up. But very few babies are only given
MMR without the preceding injurious vaccines


That's a start.
Sheri

"Sheri Nakken RN, MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath"
wrote:

A. Those that say mercury-free, private testing has shown there is
still mercury

Are you referring to the "testing" done by Dawn Winkler's outfit?

You know, the "testing" where the lab always finds what its customers
want it to find.
--
Peter Bowditch aa #2243
The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles
Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au
Australian Skeptics http://www.skeptics.com.au
To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com

Sheri Nakken RN, MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath wrote:
ahhhhhhh, I thought I recognized the name of Mark Probert
Thanks for the reminder

Did you read this about the real Mark Probert?

http://homestead.juno.com/mhillekamp/files/

------------------------------------------------------------------------
Mark Probert
The Inner Circle Teachers Of Light
------------------------------------------------------------------------


Juno Home | Search | E-Mail Me


Mark Probert called himself "a Telegnostic from San Diego". Between the
years 1948-68 he channeled some of the most profound information to come
to earth from Higher Planes of Conciousness. Now only was it a strange
phenomenon at that time for a Conciousness to take over another and speak
through him, but the information itself was much ahead of its time.


The group speaking through Mark Probert called themselves The Inner Circle
Teachers of Light, or Kethra E Da, the ancient language which was spoken
by the leader E Yada di Shi`te thousands of years ago in an ancient
civilization called Yuga. This civilization lasted 1024 years and was
destroyed by an earthquake and now lies beneath the Himalayan Mountains.


The information coming through Mark were highly prolific: From advanced
scientific information, space beings, causes of ailments, great past
civilizations and much more. The Teachers say that religion and racial
problems are man's creation and only of the earth and astral frequencies.
It is something man must grow out of and away from as mankind rises out of
the hypnotic conditioned mind of superstition.


Yada, the leader of the 16 Teachers talk about the grandeur of man's
divine heritage. He says that man is a great king who has forgotten his
royal blood, caught up in the fury of the chemical world. He has truly
lost his way and forgotten the Light - which he is.


Yada states that Christ is not on the cross and never was. The mystical
story of Jesus is not a sacrifice but a mystical initiation. The cross is
a symbol of the matter world and the persoanlity must be crucified on the
cross so that the Christ, which is the light from within, can rise out of
the tomb of ignorance and set the personality free. Jesus did not die for
man's sins. He came as an initiate and went through his final initiation
on earth as man must do also. He showed man the way when he said: "What I
can do, you can do also." Yada explains that man is the creator of his
life and his destiny. He is both the dream and the dreamer.


Mark Probert did not cultivate his strange gift and it was often a worry
and burden to him. During the earlier years before tape recorders were
available, the lectures were taken by shorthand and published in a booklet
called The Round Robin by Meade Lane. Later they were printed in a booklet
called The Mark Probert Seance Report.


For the first years the lectures were semi-private. Then Mark and his wife
Irene were told to lecture to groups and eventually traveled and spoke all
over the United States. Questions were encouraged from the audience as
long as they were not personal. Questions of scientific and philosophical
nature were welcomed and always answered at great length.


Professor Alfred Luntz, another one of the Teachers, was a Clergyman of
the High Episcopalian Church of England in his last life. He died at age
81 during the time of Queen Victoria. However he was surprised that he did
not go to heaven after his transition, to sit at the right side of Jesus,
which he had taught for over 50 years. He thought he would get a warm
welcome, but found himself standing at his bed looking down at his body.
He even attended his own funeral and realized that he didn't die and there
is no heaven, no hell and no purgatory. He tells his story with a clipped
British accent, full of humor which has given many people comfort to know
that man does not die, just shedding his body like an outworn coat.


Mark himself passed on in 1969, a few years after his wife Irene who was
always by his side. His passing went unnoticed, but many devotees felt the
loss of this human personality which shocked and delighted so many with
these wondeful teachings.


For those who understand - no explanation is necessary. For those who do
not - no explanation is possible

In message . com, Sheri Nakken RN, MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath wrote:

ahhhhhhh, I thought I recognized the name of Mark Probert
Thanks for the reminder


Could you cover what to say when someone says, "My doctor says that
vaccines are safe as the mercury has been removed".

Thank you,

Many reasons numbers are not falling..............age of diagnosis is
one.

Mercury out of vaccines? -


1. Mercury has NOT totally been removed from vaccines (especially in
the UK where huge numbers were given until last year with mercury)
A. Those that say mercury-free, private testing has shown there is
still mercury
B. Many still have a trace of mercury
C. And many have full amounts of mercury - many flu vax (adult &
children) DT, tD, etc.

2. Mercury is NOT the only problem with vaccine


Contamination with mycoplasma and bacteria
Contamination with monkey viruses
Contamination with RNA, DNA
Aluminum and other adjuvants
The new preservative replacing mercury in some vaccines - 2PE
Other additives in vaccines - vary according to the vaccine - msg,
formaldyhyde, antibiotics, phenol, sorbitol, gelatin and more
The antigen itself and how it effects the immune system
The whole theory is in error - stimulation of antibodies does not give
immunity - antibodies do not mean immunity - the are signs of exposure,
but one small aspect of the immune system
No long term research
No comparison in research with placebo group - only another vaccinated
group
Ignoring post marketing data of reactions, injury and death
No individualization - one size fits all
No screening for immune problems and allergies
Children and adults have reacted with injury and death after MMR which
never had mercury in it

3. The vaccine itself - antigen and all and how it affects the immune
system - is very harmful to the body and brain.
4. MMR still being given - the last straw after so many mercury
vaccines setting up the susceptibility?
MMR may not even need the set up. But very few babies are only given
MMR without the preceding injurious vaccines

How do the above correlate with the rates of autism?
In particular, how do they correlate in different
regions with the local autism diagnosis rates?


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Sheri Nakken RN, MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath wrote:
ahhhhhhh, I thought I recognized the name of Mark Probert
Thanks for the reminder

Did you read this about the real Mark Probert?

http://homestead.juno.com/mhillekamp/files/

------------------------------------------------------------------------
Mark Probert
The Inner Circle Teachers Of Light
------------------------------------------------------------------------


Juno Home | Search | E-Mail Me


Mark Probert called himself "a Telegnostic from San Diego". Between the
years 1948-68 he channeled some of the most profound information to come
to earth from Higher Planes of Conciousness. Now only was it a strange
phenomenon at that time for a Conciousness to take over another and speak
through him, but the information itself was much ahead of its time.


The group speaking through Mark Probert called themselves The Inner Circle
Teachers of Light, or Kethra E Da, the ancient language which was spoken
by the leader E Yada di Shi`te thousands of years ago in an ancient
civilization called Yuga. This civilization lasted 1024 years and was
destroyed by an earthquake and now lies beneath the Himalayan Mountains.


The information coming through Mark were highly prolific: From advanced
scientific information, space beings, causes of ailments, great past
civilizations and much more. The Teachers say that religion and racial
problems are man's creation and only of the earth and astral frequencies.
It is something man must grow out of and away from as mankind rises out of
the hypnotic conditioned mind of superstition.


Yada, the leader of the 16 Teachers talk about the grandeur of man's
divine heritage. He says that man is a great king who has forgotten his
royal blood, caught up in the fury of the chemical world. He has truly
lost his way and forgotten the Light - which he is.


Yada states that Christ is not on the cross and never was. The mystical
story of Jesus is not a sacrifice but a mystical initiation. The cross is
a symbol of the matter world and the persoanlity must be crucified on the
cross so that the Christ, which is the light from within, can rise out of
the tomb of ignorance and set the personality free. Jesus did not die for
man's sins. He came as an initiate and went through his final initiation
on earth as man must do also. He showed man the way when he said: "What I
can do, you can do also." Yada explains that man is the creator of his
life and his destiny. He is both the dream and the dreamer.


Mark Probert did not cultivate his strange gift and it was often a worry
and burden to him. During the earlier years before tape recorders were
available, the lectures were taken by shorthand and published in a booklet
called The Round Robin by Meade Lane. Later they were printed in a booklet
called The Mark Probert Seance Report.


For the first years the lectures were semi-private. Then Mark and his wife
Irene were told to lecture to groups and eventually traveled and spoke all
over the United States. Questions were encouraged from the audience as
long as they were not personal. Questions of scientific and philosophical
nature were welcomed and always answered at great length.


Professor Alfred Luntz, another one of the Teachers, was a Clergyman of
the High Episcopalian Church of England in his last life. He died at age
81 during the time of Queen Victoria. However he was surprised that he did
not go to heaven after his transition, to sit at the right side of Jesus,
which he had taught for over 50 years. He thought he would get a warm
welcome, but found himself standing at his bed looking down at his body.
He even attended his own funeral and realized that he didn't die and there
is no heaven, no hell and no purgatory. He tells his story with a clipped
British accent, full of humor which has given many people comfort to know
that man does not die, just shedding his body like an outworn coat.


Mark himself passed on in 1969, a few years after his wife Irene who was
always by his side. His passing went unnoticed, but many devotees felt the
loss of this human personality which shocked and delighted so many with
these wondeful teachings.


For those who understand - no explanation is necessary. For those who do
not - no explanation is possible.

This is a different Mark Probert.

You ARE Mark S. Probert disbarred attorney.

Absolute proof.

In the Matter of Mark Probert (Admitted as Mark S. Probert), a
Suspended Attorney, Respondent.
Grievance Committee for the Tenth Judicial District, Petitioner.

92-02731

SUPREME COURT OF NEW YORK, APPELLATE DIVISION, SECOND DEPARTMENT

183 A.D.2d 282; 590 N.Y.S.2d 747

November 9, 1992, Decided

PRIOR HISTORY: [***1]

Disciplinary proceedings instituted by the Grievance Committee for the
Tenth Judicial District. Respondent was admitted to the Bar on
February 15, 1978, at a term of the Appellate Division of the Supreme
Court in the Second Judicial Department, under the name Mark S.
Probert.

DISPOSITION: Ordered that the petitioner's motion to impose discipline
upon the respondent based upon his failure to appear or answer is
granted; and it is further,

HEADNOTES: Attorney and Client - Disciplinary Proceedings

Respondent attorney, who is charged with 22 counts of failing to
cooperate with investigations of alleged misconduct by the Grievance
Committee, and who has failed to answer or appear, is disbarred.

COUNSEL:

Frank A. Finnerty, Jr., Westbury (Muriel L. Gennosa of counsel), for
petitioner.

JUDGES: Mangano, P. J., Thompson, Bracken, Sullivan and Harwood, JJ.,
concur.

Ordered that the petitioner's motion to impose discipline upon the
respondent based upon his failure to appear or answer is granted; and
it is further,

Ordered that pursuant to Judiciary Law § 90, effective immediately,
the respondent, Mark Probert, is disbarred and his name is stricken
from the roll of attorneys and counselors-at-law; and it is further,

Ordered that the respondent shall continue to comply with this Court's
rules governing the conduct of disbarred, suspended and resigned
attorneys (22 NYCRR 691.10); and it is further,

Ordered that pursuant to Judiciary [***2] Law § 90, the respondent,
Mark Probert, is commanded to continue to desist and refrain (1) from
practicing law in any form, either as principal or as agent, clerk or
employee of another, (2) from appearing as an attorney or
counselor-at-law before any court, Judge, Justice, board, commission
or other public authority, (3) from giving to another an opinion as to
the law or its application or any advice in relation thereto, and (4)
from holding himself out in any way as an attorney and
counselor-at-law.

OPINIONBY: Per Curiam.

OPINION: [*282]

[**747] By decision and order of this Court dated September 29,
1989, the respondent was suspended from the practice of law until the
further order of this Court based upon his failure to cooperate with
the Grievance Committee. By further order of this Court dated June 4,
1992, the Grievance Committee was authorized to institute and
prosecute a disciplinary proceeding [*283] against the respondent
and the Honorable Moses M. Weinstein was appointed as Special Referee.

[**748] A notice of petition and petition was personally served upon
the respondent on July 2, 1992. No answer was forthcoming. The
petitioner now moves to hold the [***3] respondent in default. The
motion was personally served upon the respondent on August 14, 1992.
The respondent has failed to submit any papers in response to the
default motion.

The charges involve 22 counts of the respondent's failure to cooperate
with the Grievance Committee in its investigations into complaints of
professional misconduct.

The charges, if established, would require the imposition of a
disciplinary sanction against the respondent. Since the respondent has
chosen not to appear or answer in these proceedings, the charges must
be deemed established. The petitioner's motion to hold the respondent
in default and impose discipline is, therefore, granted. Accordingly,
the respondent is disbarred and his name is stricken from the roll of
attorneys and counselors-at-law, effective immediately

Source:

NY UNIFIED COURT SYSTEM, ATTORNEY REGIST. UNIT

Currency Status:

ARCHIVE RECORD

NAME & PROFESSIONAL INFORMATION

Name:

MARK PROBERT

Date Of Birth:

11/XX/1946

Gender:

MALE

Address:

1698 WEBSTER AVE

MERRICK, NY 11566

County:

NASSAU

Phone:

516-968-5572

EMPLOYER INFORMATION

Employer:

MARK S PROBERT ESQ

Organization:

PERSON

LICENSING INFORMATION

Licensing Agency:

NY STATE OFFICE OF COURT ADMINISTRATION

License/Certification Type:

ATTORNEY

License Number:

1253889

Issue Date:

00/00/1978

License Status:

DISBARRED

License State:

NY

From: Mark Probert - view profile
Date: Sun, Feb 11 2001 4:17 pm
Email: Mark Probert
Groups: k12.chat.teacher


Noah has had one since 11/26/96 (my birthday).

Jan Drew wrote:

You ARE Mark S. Probert disbarred attorney.

Absolute proof.

In the Matter of Mark Probert (Admitted as Mark S. Probert), a
Suspended Attorney, Respondent.
Grievance Committee for the Tenth Judicial District, Petitioner.
------------------------------------------------------

Ah, another Stephen Barrett? Can't the (p)harma's do better than that?

The numbers are not going to fall till ALL vaccines are stopped.
Remember, this is the third generation of vaccine subjects. The
dyscrasia multiplies in geometrical progression as with every
generation the immune system gets progressively weaker. We are but a
shadow of our ancestors.

Jag.

In article om,
wrote:

Jan Drew wrote:

You ARE Mark S. Probert disbarred attorney.

Absolute proof.

In the Matter of Mark Probert (Admitted as Mark S. Probert), a
Suspended Attorney, Respondent.
Grievance Committee for the Tenth Judicial District, Petitioner.
------------------------------------------------------

Ah, another Stephen Barrett? Can't the (p)harma's do better than that?

The numbers are not going to fall till ALL vaccines are stopped.

What "numbers?" Try including a little context. Have an adult
explain to you what "context" is.

Remember, this is the third generation of vaccine subjects. The
dyscrasia multiplies in geometrical progression as with every
generation the immune system gets progressively weaker. We are but a
shadow of our ancestors.

You are but a shadow of an intelligent human being.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"George Bush is a gruesome boob." -- Bill Maher

"David Wright" wrote in message
. net...
In article om,
wrote:

Jan Drew wrote:

You ARE Mark S. Probert disbarred attorney.

Absolute proof.

In the Matter of Mark Probert (Admitted as Mark S. Probert), a
Suspended Attorney, Respondent.
Grievance Committee for the Tenth Judicial District, Petitioner.
------------------------------------------------------

Ah, another Stephen Barrett? Can't the (p)harma's do better than that?

The numbers are not going to fall till ALL vaccines are stopped.

What "numbers?" Try including a little context. Have an adult
explain to you what "context" is.

Remember, this is the third generation of vaccine subjects. The
dyscrasia multiplies in geometrical progression as with every
generation the immune system gets progressively weaker. We are but a
shadow of our ancestors.

You are but a shadow of an intelligent human being.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"George Bush is a gruesome boob." -- Bill Maher

*In your opinion*. Which are NOT almost always correct.

Did anyone look at Jag's profile?

Jagannath
Name: Jagannath
Nickname: Jag
Location: India
Title:
Industry: Non-Profit
Email address:
Website or Blog:
Quote: Fight against the medical industry if you want to live.