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The 'false' pandemic: Drug firms cashed in on scare over swine flu, claims Euro health chief
The 'false' pandemic: Drug firms cashed in on scare over swine flu, claims
Euro health chief http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...lth-chief.html The swine flu outbreak was a 'false pandemic' driven by drug companies that stood to make billions of pounds from a worldwide scare, a leading health expert has claimed. Wolfgang Wodarg, head of health at the Council of Europe, accused the makers of flu drugs and vaccines of influencing the World Health Organisation's decision to declare a pandemic. This led to the pharmaceutical firms ensuring 'enormous gains', while countries, including the UK, 'squandered' their meagre health budgets, with millions being vaccinated against a relatively mild disease. A resolution proposed by Dr Wodarg calling for an investigation into the role of drug firms has been passed by the Council of Europe, the Strasbourg-based 'senate' responsible for the European Court of Human Rights. An emergency debate on the issue will be held later this month. Dr Wodarg's claims come as it emerged the British government is desperately trying to offload up to £1billion of swine flu vaccine, ordered at the height of the scare. Chief Medical Officer Sir Liam Donaldson last year ordered the NHS to plan for up to 65,000 deaths The Department of Health warned of 65,000 deaths, set up a special advice line and website, suspended normal rules so anti-flu drugs could be given out without prescription and told health and local authorities to prepare for a major pandemic. Planners were told to get morgues ready for the sheer scale of deaths and there were warnings that the Army could be called in to prevent riots as people fought to obtain drugs. But with fewer than 5,000 in England catching the disease last week and just 251 deaths overall, Dr Wodarg has branded the H1N1 outbreak as 'one of the greatest medical scandals of the century'. He said: 'We have had a mild flu - and a false pandemic.' He added the seeds of the scare were sown five years ago, when it was feared the much more lethal bird flu virus would mutate into a human form. The 'atmosphere of panic' led to governments stockpiling the anti-flu drug Tamiflu and putting in place 'sleeping contracts' for millions of doses of vaccine Dr Wodarg said: 'The governments have sealed contracts with vaccine producers where they secure orders in advance and take upon themselves almost all the responsibility. 'In this way the producers of vaccines are sure of enormous gains without having any financial risks. 'So they just wait, until WHO says "pandemic" and activate the contracts.' He also claims that to further push their interests, leading drug companies placed 'their people' in the 'cogs' of the WHO and other influential organisations. Sue Armitage with her children Daisy and Ralph who could not go on holiday after catching swine flu He added that their influence could have led the WHO to soften its definition of a pandemic - leading to the declaration of a worldwide outbreak last June. Dr Wodarg said: 'In order to promote their patented drugs and vaccines against flu, pharmaceutical companies have influenced scientists and official agencies, responsible for public health standards, to alarm governments worldwide. 'They have made them squander tight healthcare resources for inefficient vaccine strategies and needlessly exposed millions of healthy people to the risk of unknown side-effects of insufficiently tested vaccines.' He does not name any Britons with conflicts of interest. But last year, the Daily Mail revealed that Sir Roy Anderson, a scientist who advises the Government on swine flu, also holds a £116,000-a-year post on the board of GlaxoSmithKline. GSK makes anti-flu drugs and vaccines and is predicted to be one of the biggest beneficiaries of the pandemic. A young girl is given an inoculation at a medical centre in Cockermouth, England. Millions were given vaccines against swine flu, with pharmaceutical companies being paid huge sums by the government The Department of Health says that although the disease appears to be on the wane, it cannot rule out a third surge and urges all those entitled to the jab to have it. Professor David Salisbury, the Government's head of immunisation said there were 'no grounds whatsoever' for Dr Wodarg's claims, saying people with conflicts of interest were kept out of the decision-making process. A GSK spokesman said: 'Allegations of undue influence are misguided and unfounded. The WHO declared that H1N1 swine flu met the criteria for a pandemic. 'As WHO have stated, legal regulations and numerous safeguards are in place to manage possible conflicts of interest.' The company, which still employs Sir Roy, said he had declared his commercial interests and had not attended any meetings related to the purchase of drugs or vaccine for either the Government or GSK. Read mo |
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The 'false' pandemic: Drug firms cashed in on scare over swine flu, claims Euro health chief
On Mon, 11 Jan 2010 17:10:41 -0000, "john" wrote:
The 'false' pandemic: Drug firms cashed in on scare over swine flu, claims Euro health chief He isn't the "Euro Health Chief" or even "a" health chief, he is a full time politician. Wolfgang Wodarg, head of health at the Council of Europe, Wodarg is a German politician, chairman of the health committee in the German parliament and chairman of the Health sub-committee of the Social Health and Family Affairs committee of the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe. The Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe (PACE) consists of a number of individual representatives from each member State chosen by their political parties with a President elected each year from among them for a maximum period of three sessions. It is a talking shop for self important politicians of minor influence in their national parliaments and should not be confused with the EU Parliament which is a gravy train for self important politicians who are too corrupt and incompetent even for their national parliaments. The present President is Lluís Maria De Puig, who I'm sure you have all heard of. It passes such important resolutions as "Resolution 1686 Challenge on procedural grounds of the still unratified credentials of the parliamentary delegation of Moldova " and if that didn't excite you enough it then passed a day later "Resolution 1687 Reconsideration on substantive grounds of previously ratified credentials of the Russian delegation (Rule 9 of the Rules of Procedure of the Assembly) " It is so busy it meets 4 times every year. A resolution proposed by Dr Wodarg calling for an investigation into the role of drug firms has been passed by the Council of Europe More correctly it has been nodded through because 10 people signed it. Some may even have read it. The resolution will now be examined by the PACE Bureau which proposes to the Assembly to refer it or not to the relevant committee. A rapporteur will be appointed and the draft report examined by the committee. Following this discussion, the committee adopts a draft resolution or draft recommendation. That will then go to one of the quarterly assembly meetings where those awake will debate it. At the end of the debate the report will be voted on, printed in many languages and filed. (PACE has no powers other than to write reports). Exciting isn't it? |
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The 'false' pandemic: Drug firms cashed in on scare over swine flu, claims Euro health chief
"john" wrote in message news The 'false' pandemic: Drug firms cashed in on scare over swine flu, claims Euro health chief How quickly you forget the truth of it all. It was deemed a pandemic due to the world wide scope of those that had the flu, not the literal numbers. It fit the rational of the policies in place for a flu endemic/pandemic so they all started the ball rolling knowing it could go either way. Better safe than sorry as many would say. Then the politicians got involved and re-enforced the issues and people such as Obama took advantage of the situation. All the time they were saying this round might be mild, and the *next* round WILL be severe. Read your news article about the UK and the very real possibility or major riots if there were not enough Vac's to go around, and now they cry as their "funds" are depleted and they are short on cash. The shots were not that expensive. If it was enough to break the bank then it sure doesn't say much for public health care now, does it? This is a good example of why Americans should stay away, far, far away from government health plans. They will be the death of you. |
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The 'false' pandemic: Drug firms cashed in on scare over swine flu, claims Euro health chief
They have been doing this for years, eg 1921
http://www.whale.to/vaccine/sf4.html http://assembly.coe.int/Documents/Wo.../EDOC12110.pdf [2009 Dec pdf] Faked Pandemics -- a threat for health (Council of Europe) In order to promote their patented drugs and vaccines against flu, pharmaceutical companies have influenced scientists and official agencies, responsible for public health standards, to alarm governments worldwide. They have made them squander tight health care resources for inefficient vaccine strategies and needlessly exposed millions of healthy people to the risk of unknown side-effects of insufficiently tested vaccines. The "birds-flu“-campaign (2005/06) combined with the "swine-flu“-campaign seem to have caused a great deal of damage not only to some vaccinated patients and to public health budgets, but also to the credibility and accountability of important international health agencies. The definition of an alarming pandemic must not be under the influence of drug-sellers. The member states of the Council of Europe should ask for immediate investigations on the consequences at national as well as European level. |
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The 'false' pandemic: Drug firms cashed in on scare over swine flu, claims Euro health chief
On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 12:28:58 -0000, "john" wrote:
http://assembly.coe.int/Documents/Wo.../EDOC12110.pdf You forgot this bit :- "This motion has not been discussed in the Assembly and commits only the members who have signed it " (all 14 of them). |
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The false pandemic: Drug firms cashed in on scare over swine flu, claims Euro health chief
On Mon, 11 Jan 2010 20:22:35 -0800, "Peter B"
wrote: and as to the logic behind why we should not have health care, look around. Read the very article that was used for this post. Look at the 50 or more % reduction in prostate surgeries due to UK cutbacks No one seems to have noticed this reduction, where was it mentioned? as well as the huge reductions in booby surgeries deemed necessary to reduce costs I'm not quite sure what you are referring to here but if it is to cosmetic breast reduction/enlargement relatively few are ever carried out by the NHS and reducing the number to zero would not exactly save a lot of money. Those are real statistics, I'd like to see the source of them as they do not appear to be. |
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The false pandemic: Drug firms cashed in on scare over swine flu, claims Euro health chief
"Peter Parry" wrote in message ... On Mon, 11 Jan 2010 20:22:35 -0800, "Peter B" wrote: and as to the logic behind why we should not have health care, look around. Read the very article that was used for this post. Look at the 50 or more % reduction in prostate surgeries due to UK cutbacks No one seems to have noticed this reduction, where was it mentioned? The prostate surgeries were a couple years ago, it stands on its own, The sentance preceding it stands on its own. as well as the huge reductions in booby surgeries deemed necessary to reduce costs I'm not quite sure what you are referring to here but if it is to cosmetic breast reduction/enlargement relatively few are ever carried out by the NHS and reducing the number to zero would not exactly save a lot of money. It was for cancer surgeries, booby smashing X-rays and the like. Elective surgeries put the women on their own already unless they were in the government. Those are real statistics, I'd like to see the source of them as they do not appear to be. Then you haven't been keeping up with the news, but if you are less than 18 I wouldn't blame you for not knowing because very few kids get involved with such matters. |
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The 'false' pandemic: Drug firms cashed in on scare over swine flu, claims Euro health chief
"john" wrote in message ... They have been doing this for years, eg 1921 http://www.whale.to/vaccine/sf4.html http://assembly.coe.int/Documents/Wo.../EDOC12110.pdf [2009 Dec pdf] Faked Pandemics -- a threat for health (Council of Europe) In order to promote their patented drugs and vaccines against flu, pharmaceutical companies have influenced scientists and official agencies, responsible for public health standards, to alarm governments worldwide. They have made them squander tight health care resources for inefficient vaccine strategies and needlessly exposed millions of healthy people to the risk of unknown side-effects of insufficiently tested vaccines. The "birds-flu"-campaign (2005/06) combined with the "swine-flu"-campaign seem to have caused a great deal of damage not only to some vaccinated patients and to public health budgets, but also to the credibility and accountability of important international health agencies. The definition of an alarming pandemic must not be under the influence of drug-sellers. The member states of the Council of Europe should ask for immediate investigations on the consequences at national as well as European level. Not very cool of you to call those in government Dummies, John. I see you've cashed in on this cash cow as well, you sly old fox. |
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The false pandemic: Drug firms cashed in on scare over swine flu, claims Euro health chief
On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 22:04:09 -0800, "Peter B"
wrote: "Peter Parry" wrote in message .. . On Mon, 11 Jan 2010 20:22:35 -0800, "Peter B" wrote: and as to the logic behind why we should not have health care, look around. Read the very article that was used for this post. Look at the 50 or more % reduction in prostate surgeries due to UK cutbacks No one seems to have noticed this reduction, where was it mentioned? The prostate surgeries were a couple years ago, it stands on its own, The sentance preceding it stands on its own. I can't find any mention of such reduction, if it has occurred it doesn't appear to have had any effect upon treatments or treatment times. If you do have any references I would be interested in reading them. It was for cancer surgeries, booby smashing X-rays and the like. Elective surgeries put the women on their own already unless they were in the government. I think we have a language problem in that I'm still not sure what you mean. There has been a significant increase in breast cancer service provision in the last 10 years, certainly not a decrease. I'd like to see the source of them as they do not appear to be. Then you haven't been keeping up with the news, Always possible, hence if you have references to said news I would appreciate reading them. but if you are less than 18 Nope. |
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The false pandemic: Drug firms cashed in on scare over swine flu, claims Euro health chief
"Peter Parry" wrote in message ... On Tue, 12 Jan 2010 22:04:09 -0800, "Peter B" wrote: "Peter Parry" wrote in message . .. On Mon, 11 Jan 2010 20:22:35 -0800, "Peter B" wrote: and as to the logic behind why we should not have health care, look around. Read the very article that was used for this post. Look at the 50 or more % reduction in prostate surgeries due to UK cutbacks No one seems to have noticed this reduction, where was it mentioned? The prostate surgeries were a couple years ago, it stands on its own, The sentance preceding it stands on its own. I can't find any mention of such reduction, if it has occurred it doesn't appear to have had any effect upon treatments or treatment times. If you do have any references I would be interested in reading them. OK, guess I'll have to look it up. It was also denied at the time in spite of the furor it caused, but when linked too then excuses were made. The booby stuff is more recent. It was for cancer surgeries, booby smashing X-rays and the like. Elective surgeries put the women on their own already unless they were in the government. I think we have a language problem in that I'm still not sure what you mean. There has been a significant increase in breast cancer service provision in the last 10 years, certainly not a decrease. I'd like to see the source of them as they do not appear to be. Then you haven't been keeping up with the news, Always possible, hence if you have references to said news I would appreciate reading them. but if you are less than 18 Nope. Hopefully I will have it tracked down within the next several days. |
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