In Response to Myrl Jeffcoat's Merck / Gardasil DISINFORMATION

On Aug 26, 6:56 pm, Ilena Rose wrote:

and watching desperate Myrl kiss up to Utz
is perfect.


When Ilena Rosenthal can't intelligently debate the issue, she name
calls instead!

She continues to dismiss the importance of 250,000 - 290,000 deaths of
women globally each year, from Cervical Cancer. And she ignores that
it has been estimated that 70% of these cancers are caused by the HPV
virus, which Gardasil could prevent.

http://www.ilena-rosenthal.com

Myrl wrote:
On Aug 26, 6:56 pm, Ilena Rose wrote:

and watching desperate Myrl kiss up to Utz
is perfect.


When Ilena Rosenthal can't intelligently debate the issue, she name
calls instead!

She continues to dismiss the importance of 250,000 - 290,000 deaths of
women globally each year, from Cervical Cancer.

Perhaps 250,000 deaths a year are not important to her.

As long as she is able to argue against the drug and chemical companies
or do name-calling (I have not heard the kids on my soccer team do any
name calling, but they have all finished kindergarten), nothing I have
seen from suggests that the people who are harmed by disease are
important to her.

And she ignores that
it has been estimated that 70% of these cancers are caused by the HPV
virus, which Gardasil could prevent.


Again, you appear to be making the unsupported assumption that she is
able to understand this. Are you able to support this assumption? I am not.

Jeff

http://www.ilena-rosenthal.com

On Aug 26, 8:17 pm, Jeff wrote:
Myrl wrote:
When Ilena Rosenthal can't intelligently debate the issue, she name
calls instead!

She continues to dismiss the importance of 250,000 - 290,000 deaths of
women globally each year, from Cervical Cancer.

Perhaps 250,000 deaths a year are not important to her.

As long as she is able to argue against the drug and chemical companies
or do name-calling (I have not heard the kids on my soccer team do any
name calling, but they have all finished kindergarten), nothing I have
seen from suggests that the people who are harmed by disease are
important to her.

And she ignores that
it has been estimated that 70% of these cancers are caused by the HPV
virus, which Gardasil could prevent.

Again, you appear to be making the unsupported assumption that she is
able to understand this. Are you able to support this assumption? I am not.

Jeff


No Jeff - I most certainly cannot support the assumption that Ilena
Rosenthal can understand the numbers being discussed. My personal
belief is that she is spin-doctoring for quack medicine, and her own
agenda.

However, when the audience that you are addressing consists of more
than Ilena Rosenthal, then your chances of others out there having
some intelligence, and being able to digest material, looks a tad more
promising.

All I can do is present the material from articles emanating from
reliable sources, and hope that reason prevails.

Ilena continues to downplay the importance of the 250,000 - 290,000
women globally, who die from cervical cancer each year. She does this
by dismissing them as being from "undeveloped countries." My stance
is that all the women of the globe are equal and deserving of having
their numbers counted, when it comes to the totality of those horrible
numbers.

Myrl Jeffcoat posts yet another lie for today:

Ilena continues to downplay the importance of the 250,000 - 290,000

No I don't you uneducated, hate spewing smear campaign Queeen.

Your hate campaign against me only brings out how jealous, pathetic,
uneducated and deceitful you are ... while you dance around the other
Vac Shills begging for attention.


I'm just not a Merck Gardasil Hawker like you and Penley Ayers and the
rest of YOU Vac Industry Shills.

http://www.poodwaddle.com/worldclock.swf

Over 2 million humans have died this year from STD's - HIV - AIDS
according to this world clock ...

I am not convinced in any way that Merck's Gardasil is the best
solution to the problem ... nor do I believe the Merck Vac Science you
continue to quote as gospel.

For the 6 years you have been attacking me ... you have shown you have
no lower limits to what you will do to try to harm me ... including
making up lists with people who don't exist and naming 2 year old that
you claim "hate Ilena" too.

The more you are exposed as the liar you are .. the more you cozy up
to Quack Flacks like Jeffrey P Utz ... who was never allowed a non
restricted medical license although he called himself a "KidDoc" ...

and Mark Probert ... disbarred in NY who you claim you investigated
and found nothing "wrong."

You think you are harming me ... but you have destroyed your own
credibility, Ms "Simple Math" Mryl Jeffcoat:


http://groups.google.com/group/misc....b09975d1486334


www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/myrl.html

Myrl Jeffcoat on comparing "9" post Merck's Gardasil related deaths in
the United States and 250,000 (estimated number of women worldwide who
are said to die from cervical cancer):

Myrl Jeffcoat Speak :
"Are you having issues with a sum-total that comes from subtracting 9
from 250,000?. . .Or is it that it makes it more difficult to paint
lipstick on your pig?"


http://groups.google.com/group/misc....473b5d160366f#
Myrl Carlene Jeffcoat tossing out her muddled and confused
accusations against me ... she has been widely claiming that this is a
"simple math" question ... here's Myrl's math:

MyrlSpeak (Ilena is the "she's" Myrl is insulting)
She's so focused on bashing the idea that a
vaccine may prevent hundreds of thousands of deaths, that she is
reluctant to do the math. . .250,000 - 7 = 243,000 possible lives
saved!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Thanks here to Vince who corrected Myrl's disinformation and
irrational "simple math:

Lets correct the math
"NEW YORK (Reuters Health) Aug 24 - A prophylactic vaccine against
human papillomavirus (HPV) types 16 and 18 has the potential for
preventing at least half the cases of invasive cervical cancer and
high-grade squamous intraepithelial lesions worldwide, investigators
report in the August 1st issue of the International Journal of
Cancer.

Dr. Jennifer S. Smith, of the University of North Carolina, Chapel
Hill, and colleagues conducted a meta-analysis of HPV type
distribution worldwide in 14,595 cases of invasive cervical cancer
(ICC) and 7,094 cases of high-grade squamous intraepithelial lesions
(HSIL).'" and she found... " The HPV 16/18 prevalence was 52% in
HSIL." HSIL is the best surrogate for cancer.


Corrected amount 125,000 lives possibly saved
In US 1500 a year in Canada 200 maximum possible.
Has that reduction been proven .No .So far the studies show a no
decrease in stage 3 lesions the best surrogate for cancer and a 17%
reduction in stage 2 lesions . So the best marker stage 3 lesions has
not been decreased . How effective is it? Could it reduce cancer rates
by 40%? Maybe. ; could it have no effect absolutely.
One thing is sure its risk and benefit ratio is unproven. That's why
many Doctors with no vested interest have urged that it not be
mandated. One things for sure it will be expensive

On Aug 27, 9:38 am, Ilena Rose wrote:
Myrl Jeffcoat posts yet another lie for today:

Ilena continues to downplay the importance of the 250,000 - 290,000

No I don't you uneducated, hate spewing smear campaign Queeen.

Your hate campaign against me only brings out how jealous, pathetic,
uneducated and deceitful you are ... while you dance around the other
Vac Shills begging for attention.

I'm just not a Merck Gardasil Hawker like you and Penley Ayers and the
rest of YOU Vac Industry Shills.

More name calling....deep sigh.

Gosh Ilena, have you thought about getting into a different racket? I
mean, as a never implanted, self-appointed, pushy 'advocate' for
women damaged by breast implants you put up dozens of ****-list
webpages on your non-profit floundation website .... bad mouthing the
very women you said you were advocating for (referring to them as your
"Mine Enemies"). How effective is that?
You remind me of a syrupy-sweet babysitter who proudly plays video's
of herself hanging the babies by their toes.

Your abrasive approach to scientific data is offensive and
ineffective....as if you had not noticed.

http://ilena-rosenthal.blogspot.com

www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/coleah.htm
www.BreastImplantawareness.org/coleah-lies.htm
www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/myrl.html
http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.or...pivateclub.htm
Langer & Probert & Poleoy & Patrick O'leary and Myrl & Coleah ... O
MY!

On Aug 27, 10:16 am, Ilena Rose wrote:
http://ilena-rosenthal.blogspot.com

http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.or...pivateclub.htm
Langer & Probert & Poleoy & Patrick O'leary and Myrl & Coleah ... O
MY!

Ilena, Jan, Timmy, DrDre.....tee-hee-hee.

Ilena Rosenthal has a long and arduous history of labeling anyone with
an opinion differing from her own as being a member of a "boogey man
cartel," a "gang," or her "enemy." She has proclaimed them as "joined
at the hip," or part of a "posse."

For a rather long list of abusive and libelous webpages created by
Ilena Rosenthal, on her non-profit webspace, please visit the list
below. Mmany of which are women harmed by breast implants, which she
self-proclaims to be an advocate for:

A few representative links Ilena has attributed in Usenet posts to
those she herself tagged as "Mine Enemies" (BTW - who publicizes that
they go around naming their enemies?)


* http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/Wikipedia.htm

* http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/WikiArb1.htm

* http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/WikiArb2.htm

* http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/ladyni.htm

* http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/maan.html

* http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/threats.htm

* http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/Matrix.html

* http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.or...atch.htm#Posse

* http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/WillaNidiffer.htm

* http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/myrl.html#Nana

* http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/AEI-PNAC.htm

* http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/KayKnedlik.htm

* http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.or...tm#Langer&Dowd

* http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/defamation.htm

* http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/quacklibelsuit.htm

* http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/myrl.html#nidiffer

* http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/a...se.htm#Rag-tag

* http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/P...stProbert.html

* http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/m...BarrettsParrot

* http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/KayKnedlik.htm#joyce

* http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/K...ik.htm#Sharynn

* http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/q...claration.html

* http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/Q...htm#guerrillas

* http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.or...WillNOTKetcher

* http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/Q...rtWasDisbarred

* http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/a...e.htm#PamsScam

* http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/a...-TagGuerrillas

* http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/#LangerDowdMurdock

* http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/a...tm#WebofDeceit

* http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.or...sRosenthal.htm

* http://drstephenbarrettmd.blogspot.c...alem-witch-hun
ter-part-1.html

* http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/Q...W-HF-ACSH.html

* http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.or...stProbert.html

* http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/sandraprobert.htm

* http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/c...uicidelies.htm

* http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/myrl.html#SiliconeShufflin'Grannie

* http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.or...sbandDisbarred

* http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/P...osesLawLicense

* http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/P...ml#BustedAgain

* http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/P...dBeyondMeasure

* http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/P...tDroppingA OL

* http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/myrl.html

* http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/myrl.html#yahoo

* http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/Myrl.html#Networks

* http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/myrl.html#DaveyDow

* http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/m...ralsInAbsentia

* http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/m...ainsInAbsentia

* http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/myrl.html#LovesTeddy

* http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/m...ofGooglingNana

* http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/m...erHipsWithNana

* http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/WithoutSin.htm

* http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/W...dockPlagarizes

* http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/W...lirtswithPlant

* http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/WithoutSin.htm#ServingJunkScientistO'leary

* http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/W...ushesOverPlant

* http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/W...lkingFantasies

* http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.or...htm#DragonLiar

* http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.or....htm#Dalefield

* http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.or...ts.htm#Skeptic

* http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/DisinfoAgents.htm

* http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/D...s.htm#articles

* http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/D...tm#SnoopysBack

* http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/D...m#Plantsqueaks

* http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/D...tm#PlantPushes

* http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/blog.htm

* http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/D...arrettsParrott

* http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/DisinfoAgentsFAQ.htm

* http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/D...ngerThanWright

* http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/D...ents.htm#plant

* http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/D....htm#fuzzyandy

* http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/D...ngerThanWright

* http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/D...PlantLiesAgain

* http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/D...obertTheCoward

* http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/D...DeityfromSatan

* http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/D...ngerthanwright

* http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/D...ingOnlyHimself

* http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/D...ltogetheragain

* http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/D...ingHimselfOnly

* http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/D...atorRidesAgain

* http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/ss.html

* http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/S...rotchFantasies

* http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/S...ssionContinues

* http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/coleah.htm

* http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/BM.html

* http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/plant-myrl.html

* http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/bernard_patten.htm

* http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/BM.html#Moron

* http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/B...TantrumThrower

* http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/B...ObsessedNutter

* http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/B...potentHarasser

* http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/B...potentDictator

* http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/B...malPerversions

* http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/B...ssionContinues

* http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/B...tIdiotDictator

* http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/B...norantDictator

* http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/blog.htm

* http://humanticsfoundation.com/coverup.htm

* http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/patrickoleary.htm

* http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.or...ary.htm#Coleah

* http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.or...rivateclub.htm

* http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/coleah.htm

* http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/myrl.html

* http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.or...eclaration.htm

* http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.or...weedkiller.htm

* http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/polevoy.htm

* http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.or...ah.htm#Polevoy

* http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.or...m#MyrlJeffcoat

www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/myrl.html


Seeing Myrl Jeffcoat & Jeff Utz in their mutual disinformation
campaign about Gardasil ... and watching desperate Myrl kiss up to Utz
is perfect.



Reminds me of Utz's quote about breast implants ... long after over
250,000 had sent in adverse reports to the FDA.

Using typical Quack Logic and Disinformation ... he lied to the world
claiming:

"there is no evidence that *silicon implants harm anyone"

He was lying about implants .. and now he, with Myrl Jeffcoat's
idiotic double speak ... is lying about Gardasil.

On Aug 27, 9:38 am, Ilena Rose wrote:
Myrl Jeffcoat posts yet another lie for today:

Ilena continues to downplay the importance of the 250,000 - 290,000

No I don't you uneducated, hate spewing smear campaign Queeen.

Your hate campaign against me only brings out how jealous, pathetic,
uneducated and deceitful you are ... while you dance around the other
Vac Shills begging for attention.

I'm just not a Merck Gardasil Hawker like you and Penley Ayers and the
rest of YOU Vac Industry Shills.

http://www.poodwaddle.com/worldclock.swf

Over 2 million humans have died this year from STD's - HIV - AIDS
according to this world clock ...

I am not convinced in any way that Merck's Gardasil is the best
solution to the problem ... nor do I believe the Merck Vac Science you
continue to quote as gospel.

So. That is your opinion and you are entitled to it.

In my opinion, I am not convinced in any way that Merck's Gardasil is
NOT a good and beneficial solution to the problem. Try to live with
it and don't let it ruin your life.