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Bottles at night
"R. Steve Walz" wrote in message
... Liz wrote: We are having trouble with our 20 month old who in the last month has begun waking up 3 or 4 times a night, very upset and crying. She doesn't want cuddles and refuses to sleep in our bed. Most of the time she won't go back to sleep unless she is given a bottle. She is small, low weight and a picky eater. She is often resistant to trying anything new and is particular about what she wants and doesn't want. Do you think this is a phase that will go away? Should we just accept this for the time being and have a small bottle ready for her at night? My child health nurse thinks we should cut out the bottle completely, that she is using them as a sleep aid. We have a few problems with that as how else do we encourage her to go back to sleep without an hour of tantrum? Also she refuses to drink milk in any other container - hot or cold. Any suggestions? -- Liz ------------- Give her what she wants! How stupid can people be? Kids don't want it to be nasty! They want it because they NEED it! Steve I never said I thought she was doing it to be nasty. She has started doing this after sleeping through most nights for over 8 months. I work fulltime which is becoming increasingly difficult to do on five hours interrupted sleep a night. I was merely asking for advice. Obviously you just want an excuse to show what a superior parent you are. I must be such a bad mother. She wants to eat chocolate and chips all day but I'm not going to give it to her! Liz |
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Sorry - read further and realised I was feeding the tr*ll. Apologies!!
Liz "Liz" wrote in message u... "R. Steve Walz" wrote in message ... Liz wrote: We are having trouble with our 20 month old who in the last month has begun waking up 3 or 4 times a night, very upset and crying. She doesn't want cuddles and refuses to sleep in our bed. Most of the time she won't go back to sleep unless she is given a bottle. She is small, low weight and a picky eater. She is often resistant to trying anything new and is particular about what she wants and doesn't want. Do you think this is a phase that will go away? Should we just accept this for the time being and have a small bottle ready for her at night? My child health nurse thinks we should cut out the bottle completely, that she is using them as a sleep aid. We have a few problems with that as how else do we encourage her to go back to sleep without an hour of tantrum? Also she refuses to drink milk in any other container - hot or cold. Any suggestions? -- Liz ------------- Give her what she wants! How stupid can people be? Kids don't want it to be nasty! They want it because they NEED it! Steve I never said I thought she was doing it to be nasty. She has started doing this after sleeping through most nights for over 8 months. I work fulltime which is becoming increasingly difficult to do on five hours interrupted sleep a night. I was merely asking for advice. Obviously you just want an excuse to show what a superior parent you are. I must be such a bad mother. She wants to eat chocolate and chips all day but I'm not going to give it to her! Liz |
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Bottles at night
I don't know if you have read Ferber's book. A lot of people disagree,
but his methods do work. He has a description of a child with a very similar routine. Unless your daughter your daughter's size is a problem (I have three children who are all in the lower percentiles) or she is having other health problems, she should be able to consume her calories during the day. Thus, the milk at night may not be ideal for her diet. It may actually be decreasing the amount of variety that she is eating. Kids at 20 months tend to have a pretty odd looking diet, but on average eat pretty well. I would really suggest cutting the bottles out at night. It is bad for her teeth and bad for her long term sleep associations. Do it cold turkey and the phase will pass faster than if you try to make her happy about it. Getting a child to drink their milk in a different container is another question. I would suggest cutting out the bottles at night and then working on that problem. Again, at 20 months they are stubborn as all get out, but they also can't remember things as long as we worry they might. :-) Karen |
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Liz wrote:
"R. Steve Walz" wrote in message ... Liz wrote: We are having trouble with our 20 month old who in the last month has begun waking up 3 or 4 times a night, very upset and crying. She doesn't want cuddles and refuses to sleep in our bed. Most of the time she won't go back to sleep unless she is given a bottle. She is small, low weight and a picky eater. She is often resistant to trying anything new and is particular about what she wants and doesn't want. Do you think this is a phase that will go away? Should we just accept this for the time being and have a small bottle ready for her at night? My child health nurse thinks we should cut out the bottle completely, that she is using them as a sleep aid. We have a few problems with that as how else do we encourage her to go back to sleep without an hour of tantrum? Also she refuses to drink milk in any other container - hot or cold. Any suggestions? -- Liz ------------- Give her what she wants! How stupid can people be? Kids don't want it to be nasty! They want it because they NEED it! Steve I never said I thought she was doing it to be nasty. She has started doing this after sleeping through most nights for over 8 months. I work fulltime which is becoming increasingly difficult to do on five hours interrupted sleep a night. I was merely asking for advice. Obviously you just want an excuse to show what a superior parent you are. I must be such a bad mother. She wants to eat chocolate and chips all day ------------ No she doesn't, no kid does, they make them sick and they stop. We tried it, they wind up liking a few dates, spinach and broccoli and brown rice and beans and fruit and chicken breasts. but I'm not going to give it to her! Liz --------------------------- Then all you'll do is make her want it well into her formed phase, and so she'll do so all her life and always wonder why she feels sick all the time, being out of touch with her body. They have to have their own experimental experience to be in touch with their bodies. Steve |
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Liz, it sounds to me like your 20 month old is going through a growth stage,
working some issues out. This will pass, IMO, but I think you are doing this for her because your mothering instincts tell you she needs it. IMO, stick with your mother's instincts. They are only young for a short time, again, this is IMO - I would be there for her and eventually the thing causing the stress (can you itdentify anythign ?) will resolve itself. My DH tell sme that my rocking DS to sleep (he's 2 yo) when he cries is going to become a habit. That DS will begin t o "need" to be rocked to sleep every night. I don't think so.....he actually does go to sleep on his own a lot, but DH doesn't realize that DS is copign with a new day care - albeit the new "day care" is my sister's - and she cares very much for him, as if he were her own. But it is still stressful for him, and fo rnow, I will help him calm himself. It bothers me too much NOT to. Trust that this will resolve itself and she will get through whatever is stressing her. Try and figure out what has changed in her little life that could be tied to this waking up alot. (Is she workign on a new skill like walking or talkign or feeding herself ? The day tiem frustratuion works itself out at night. See T. Brazelton's "Touchpoints") Meantime, be there for her with a bottle if that is what she wants. L. "R. Steve Walz" wrote in message ... Liz wrote: "R. Steve Walz" wrote in message ... Liz wrote: We are having trouble with our 20 month old who in the last month has begun waking up 3 or 4 times a night, very upset and crying. She doesn't want cuddles and refuses to sleep in our bed. Most of the time she won't go back to sleep unless she is given a bottle. She is small, low weight and a picky eater. She is often resistant to trying anything new and is particular about what she wants and doesn't want. Do you think this is a phase that will go away? Should we just accept this for the time being and have a small bottle ready for her at night? My child health nurse thinks we should cut out the bottle completely, that she is using them as a sleep aid. We have a few problems with that as how else do we encourage her to go back to sleep without an hour of tantrum? Also she refuses to drink milk in any other container - hot or cold. Any suggestions? -- Liz ------------- Give her what she wants! How stupid can people be? Kids don't want it to be nasty! They want it because they NEED it! Steve I never said I thought she was doing it to be nasty. She has started doing this after sleeping through most nights for over 8 months. I work fulltime which is becoming increasingly difficult to do on five hours interrupted sleep a night. I was merely asking for advice. Obviously you just want an excuse to show what a superior parent you are. I must be such a bad mother. She wants to eat chocolate and chips all day ------------ No she doesn't, no kid does, they make them sick and they stop. We tried it, they wind up liking a few dates, spinach and broccoli and brown rice and beans and fruit and chicken breasts. but I'm not going to give it to her! Liz --------------------------- Then all you'll do is make her want it well into her formed phase, and so she'll do so all her life and always wonder why she feels sick all the time, being out of touch with her body. They have to have their own experimental experience to be in touch with their bodies. Steve |
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