Most tonsil operations 'needless'

"Tonsillectomies have become common procedures in the West, with 45,000 in
Britain every year...Adenotonsillectomies - where both the tonsils and
adenoids are removed - were performed on 115 of every 10,000 children in
Holland, but only 50 per 10,000 in the 1998. In Britain the rate was 65 per
10,000 children. The Dutch researchers ....found rates of fever were lower
during the first six months after an operation. But from then on, there were
no differences between the two groups. Writing in the online version the
British Medical Journal, they concluded that the operation 'little clinical
benefit'. "

Most tonsil operations 'needless'

Daily mail 10 Sept 2004

TOO many needless tonsil operations are being carried out, according to a
study published yesterday.

Tonsillectomies have become common procedures in the West, with 45,000 in
Britain every year.

But doctors are being far too hasty to use them to treat minor throat
infections claim researchers, and simply waiting see how a child's condition
develops is often just as effective.

The study highlighted big variations in the number of operations carried out
between countries.

Adenotonsillectomies - where both the tonsils and adenoids are removed -
were performed on 115 of every 10,000 children in Holland, but only 50 per
10,000 in 1998. In Britain the rate was 65 per 10,000 children. The Dutch
researchers monitored 300 two to eight-year -olds, of whom half had surgery
and half were subject to 'watchful waitng', over two years.

They found rates of fever were lower during the first six months after an
operation. But from then on, there were no differences between the two
groups.

Writing in the online version the British Medical Journal, they concluded
that the operation 'little clinical benefit'.

On Fri, 10 Sep 2004 12:41:06 +0000 (UTC), "john"
wrote:




"Tonsillectomies have become common procedures in the West, with 45,000 in
Britain every year...Adenotonsillectomies - where both the tonsils and


I had mine removed when I was 8, figuring that this could be
heridary(hey I can be parinoid too), and being a new dad, I looked up,
and asked doctors.

Now I'm repeating this from memory, so don't beat me up. I was told
it's not like it was 2 decades ago where they remove them because they
are troubled. It's understood they 'sacrifce' themselve in an
infection to protect the body and isolate the bacteria/virus and
attack it.

Now a set of requirements need to be met before removing them.
Something about size? Anyone know what this is, and if it actually
applied in today's medicine?

later,

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While there may be too many surgeries, some done for the wrong reason,
still, 7 strep infections in a year warrants the surgery. That was the
criteria used with my son. And, where he was getting very frequent strep,
now he gets no infections from strep because the place where the bug was
resident has been removed.. Proof is in the pudding- for me at least. Strep
is inherently a nasty bug...so the alternative: the risk of septicemia from
strep, or resistance developing from antibiotics, or even worse risk to
heart valves and the kidneys, make this surgery a viable option in some
cases.
backbeat


"john" wrote in message
...



"Tonsillectomies have become common procedures in the West, with 45,000 in
Britain every year...Adenotonsillectomies - where both the tonsils and
adenoids are removed - were performed on 115 of every 10,000 children in
Holland, but only 50 per 10,000 in the 1998. In Britain the rate was 65
per
10,000 children. The Dutch researchers ....found rates of fever were lower
during the first six months after an operation. But from then on, there
were
no differences between the two groups. Writing in the online version the
British Medical Journal, they concluded that the operation 'little
clinical
benefit'. "

Most tonsil operations 'needless'

Daily mail 10 Sept 2004

TOO many needless tonsil operations are being carried out, according to a
study published yesterday.

Tonsillectomies have become common procedures in the West, with 45,000 in
Britain every year.

But doctors are being far too hasty to use them to treat minor throat
infections claim researchers, and simply waiting see how a child's
condition
develops is often just as effective.

The study highlighted big variations in the number of operations carried
out
between countries.

Adenotonsillectomies - where both the tonsils and adenoids are removed -
were performed on 115 of every 10,000 children in Holland, but only 50 per
10,000 in 1998. In Britain the rate was 65 per 10,000 children. The Dutch
researchers monitored 300 two to eight-year -olds, of whom half had
surgery
and half were subject to 'watchful waitng', over two years.

They found rates of fever were lower during the first six months after an
operation. But from then on, there were no differences between the two
groups.

Writing in the online version the British Medical Journal, they concluded
that the operation 'little clinical benefit'.

My 18 year old son has developed very large tonsils. His throat does not
hurt (anymore) and all his blood work has come out fine, but he used to be a
very good competitive swimmer and he started complaining of fatigue and
inability to breathe (even with his inhaler) this past winter. I looked in
his throat and was amazed he had any room to breathe. The ENT doc is trying
him on a corticosteroid nasal spray to see if this might shrink things. One
side looks like it may have come down. But, I don't know if surgery is
something we should consider. Is there anyway they can do a biopsy of his
tonsils to see if an infection is hiding? Would it be worth a try to give
him a course of antibiotics in case there is a bacteria in there? I am just
not sure what we should do if things stay swollen. He does not snore. This
new study certainly gives me more reason to continue to watch without
cutting.

Marianne

"john" wrote in message
...



"Tonsillectomies have become common procedures in the West, with 45,000 in
Britain every year...Adenotonsillectomies - where both the tonsils and
adenoids are removed - were performed on 115 of every 10,000 children in
Holland, but only 50 per 10,000 in the 1998. In Britain the rate was 65
per
10,000 children. The Dutch researchers ....found rates of fever were lower
during the first six months after an operation. But from then on, there
were
no differences between the two groups. Writing in the online version the
British Medical Journal, they concluded that the operation 'little
clinical
benefit'. "

Most tonsil operations 'needless'

Daily mail 10 Sept 2004

TOO many needless tonsil operations are being carried out, according to a
study published yesterday.

Tonsillectomies have become common procedures in the West, with 45,000 in
Britain every year.

But doctors are being far too hasty to use them to treat minor throat
infections claim researchers, and simply waiting see how a child's
condition
develops is often just as effective.

The study highlighted big variations in the number of operations carried
out
between countries.

Adenotonsillectomies - where both the tonsils and adenoids are removed -
were performed on 115 of every 10,000 children in Holland, but only 50 per
10,000 in 1998. In Britain the rate was 65 per 10,000 children. The Dutch
researchers monitored 300 two to eight-year -olds, of whom half had
surgery
and half were subject to 'watchful waitng', over two years.

They found rates of fever were lower during the first six months after an
operation. But from then on, there were no differences between the two
groups.

Writing in the online version the British Medical Journal, they concluded
that the operation 'little clinical benefit'.

tonsil removal was the main cause of bulbar (iron lung) polio
http://www.whale.to/vaccine/polio4.html


"MSEagan" wrote in message
news:W0q0d.17731$MQ5.10602@attbi_s52...
My 18 year old son has developed very large tonsils. His throat does not
hurt (anymore) and all his blood work has come out fine, but he used to be
a
very good competitive swimmer and he started complaining of fatigue and
inability to breathe (even with his inhaler) this past winter. I looked in
his throat and was amazed he had any room to breathe. The ENT doc is
trying
him on a corticosteroid nasal spray to see if this might shrink things.
One
side looks like it may have come down. But, I don't know if surgery is
something we should consider. Is there anyway they can do a biopsy of his
tonsils to see if an infection is hiding? Would it be worth a try to give
him a course of antibiotics in case there is a bacteria in there? I am
just
not sure what we should do if things stay swollen. He does not snore.
This
new study certainly gives me more reason to continue to watch without
cutting.

Marianne

"john" wrote in message
...



"Tonsillectomies have become common procedures in the West, with 45,000
in
Britain every year...Adenotonsillectomies - where both the tonsils and
adenoids are removed - were performed on 115 of every 10,000 children in
Holland, but only 50 per 10,000 in the 1998. In Britain the rate was 65
per
10,000 children. The Dutch researchers ....found rates of fever were
lower
during the first six months after an operation. But from then on, there
were
no differences between the two groups. Writing in the online version
the
British Medical Journal, they concluded that the operation 'little
clinical
benefit'. "

Most tonsil operations 'needless'

Daily mail 10 Sept 2004

TOO many needless tonsil operations are being carried out, according to
a
study published yesterday.

Tonsillectomies have become common procedures in the West, with 45,000
in
Britain every year.

But doctors are being far too hasty to use them to treat minor throat
infections claim researchers, and simply waiting see how a child's
condition
develops is often just as effective.

The study highlighted big variations in the number of operations carried
out
between countries.

Adenotonsillectomies - where both the tonsils and adenoids are removed -
were performed on 115 of every 10,000 children in Holland, but only 50
per
10,000 in 1998. In Britain the rate was 65 per 10,000 children. The
Dutch
researchers monitored 300 two to eight-year -olds, of whom half had
surgery
and half were subject to 'watchful waitng', over two years.

They found rates of fever were lower during the first six months after
an
operation. But from then on, there were no differences between the two
groups.

Writing in the online version the British Medical Journal, they
concluded
that the operation 'little clinical benefit'.

"john" wrote:

tonsil removal was the main cause of bulbar (iron lung) polio

Just when you think that John could not say anything more foolish, he
says something like this and surpasses himself.

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"Peter Bowditch" wrote in message
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"john" wrote:

tonsil removal was the main cause of bulbar (iron lung) polio

Just when you think that John could not say anything more foolish, he
says something like this and surpasses himself.


Anything that doesn't come packaged with your pharma brainwashing you have
been conditioned to believe is foolish


"Dr. R. V. Southcott (Med. Jour. .Aust. 1953. ii. 281) believes that a child
whose tonsils were removed at the usual age of 5-7 yrs suffers trauma to the
nerves of the pharynx which increases susceptibility to bulbar poliomyelitis
for at least ten years. In an outbreak in South Australia in 1947-48 he
found that in 35 out of 39 cases of bulbar poliomyelitis the patient had
been tonsillectomised."--M. Meadow Bayly, M.R.C.S.,

On Sun, 12 Sep 2004 13:30:05 +0000 (UTC), "john"
wrote:


"Peter Bowditch" wrote in message
.. .
"john" wrote:

tonsil removal was the main cause of bulbar (iron lung) polio

Just when you think that John could not say anything more foolish, he
says something like this and surpasses himself.


Anything that doesn't come packaged with your pharma brainwashing you have
been conditioned to believe is foolish


"Dr. R. V. Southcott (Med. Jour. .Aust. 1953. ii. 281) believes that a child
whose tonsils were removed at the usual age of 5-7 yrs suffers trauma to the
nerves of the pharynx which increases susceptibility to bulbar poliomyelitis
for at least ten years. In an outbreak in South Australia in 1947-48 he
found that in 35 out of 39 cases of bulbar poliomyelitis the patient had
been tonsillectomised."--M. Meadow Bayly, M.R.C.S.,


Isn't common knoweledge that the removal of tonsils effects the immune
system as a whole?

Just asking,

tom




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has anyone got/had those tonsil stones?? stinky things (? solid pus) from
their tonsils, I do feel better with mine out ( take n out at 19) I do
still think we are better off with tonsils if they do help keep infections
out...
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On Sun, 12 Sep 2004 13:30:05 +0000 (UTC), "john"
wrote:


"Peter Bowditch" wrote in message
. ..
"john" wrote:

tonsil removal was the main cause of bulbar (iron lung) polio

Just when you think that John could not say anything more foolish, he
says something like this and surpasses himself.


Anything that doesn't come packaged with your pharma brainwashing you have
been conditioned to believe is foolish


"Dr. R. V. Southcott (Med. Jour. .Aust. 1953. ii. 281) believes that a
child
whose tonsils were removed at the usual age of 5-7 yrs suffers trauma to
the
nerves of the pharynx which increases susceptibility to bulbar
poliomyelitis
for at least ten years. In an outbreak in South Australia in 1947-48 he
found that in 35 out of 39 cases of bulbar poliomyelitis the patient had
been tonsillectomised."--M. Meadow Bayly, M.R.C.S.,


Isn't common knoweledge that the removal of tonsils effects the immune
system as a whole?

Just asking,

tom




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my oldest daughter suffered a lot of ear and throat infections, at the
age of 5 she had an operation to remove tonsills and adenoids. my
other daughter is 7 and has the same problems as her sister resulting
in time off scholl all she keeps getting is a six month checkup