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Old June 28th 07, 07:31 PM posted to alt.child-support
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Default How to force new Mother to take dna test in Pennsylvania

The short of it:

Girl who says me or someone else got her pregnant tells me this 9
months ago and I wait. She has baby 2 weeks ago. She scheduled a
test but will not go now. What can I do short of spending thousands
on a lawyer to get her to take the test?


The long of it

she tells me 2 weeks after finding out she's pregnant. I wait nine
months. She cut off contact at the 6 month point. I call her 7 days
after the due date and she tells me the baby was born on the due
date.. There was a test.. it looks like the other guy etc.. I ask for
a copy. She can't produce that and admits there was no test. She
sets one up. I go and give dna, but its been 5 days now and dna
testing company says she has not shown up or paid the bill.

I called child services but they were no help..

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Old June 28th 07, 09:24 PM posted to alt.child-support
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Default How to force new Mother to take dna test in Pennsylvania


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The short of it:

Girl who says me or someone else got her pregnant tells me this 9
months ago and I wait. She has baby 2 weeks ago. She scheduled a
test but will not go now. What can I do short of spending thousands
on a lawyer to get her to take the test?


The long of it

she tells me 2 weeks after finding out she's pregnant. I wait nine
months. She cut off contact at the 6 month point. I call her 7 days
after the due date and she tells me the baby was born on the due
date.. There was a test.. it looks like the other guy etc.. I ask for
a copy. She can't produce that and admits there was no test. She
sets one up. I go and give dna, but its been 5 days now and dna
testing company says she has not shown up or paid the bill.

I called child services but they were no help..


Mothers don't need to take a paternity test. The purpose of a paternity
test is to establish a DNA match between the child and the father.

Most states have a law stating the statute of limitations on establishing
paternity. My state's law says there is no statute of limitations on
establishing paternity. Federal law dictates the states cannot set the
statute of limitations on paternity establishment at fewer than 18 years.

As soon as the mother wants child support her sense of urgency regarding
establishing paternity will change.

The is another possibility. The mother and the other putative father can
both sign a voluntary joint declaration of paternity naming him as the legal
father.


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Old June 28th 07, 10:49 PM posted to alt.child-support
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Default How to force new Mother to take dna test in Pennsylvania


"Werebat" wrote
Tell her you've been disabled and aren't making anywhere near as much
money as the other guy.

==
Sounds like he wants parental rights.


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Old June 28th 07, 11:09 PM posted to alt.child-support
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Default How to force new Mother to take dna test in Pennsylvania

Yes, let me make it more Clear.. Some crazy bitch may have my child
and I need to know if it really is so I can get rights. How do I
force her to have the child tested? Is their a standard court
procedure with this?


On Jun 28, 5:49 pm, "Gini" wrote:
"Werebat" wrote Tell her you've been disabled and aren't making anywhere near as much
money as the other guy.


==
Sounds like he wants parental rights.



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Old June 29th 07, 12:00 AM posted to alt.child-support
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Default How to force new Mother to take dna test in Pennsylvania


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Yes, let me make it more Clear.. Some crazy bitch may have my child
and I need to know if it really is so I can get rights. How do I
force her to have the child tested? Is their a standard court
procedure with this?


Yes. Either the unmarried mother or a presumed father can file a paternity
action to have the court order a DNA test to name the father or exclude a
non-father. These hearing go by several names depending on the state. They
can be called filiation hearings, establishment hearings, or paternity
hearings.

You will need an attorney to help you cover all the bases and understand all
of your personal motivations for bringing the legal action. The things an
attorney specializing in paternity can help with are dealing with in-state
cases, Interstate cases, and International disputes. (Where I live these
cases can get very complicated because many of them involve American citizen
men who had a child with a Mexican citizen woman and she left the U.S. to
return to Mexico with their American citizen child.)


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Old June 29th 07, 03:09 AM posted to alt.child-support
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Default How to force new Mother to take dna test in Pennsylvania

So, Bob, just out of curiosity, since your state has no statute of
limitations regarding paternity, what would happen were a woman to file when
the child was 20 and attending college? Could she force the father to
provide a college education for a child he never knew existed?

"Bob Whiteside" wrote in message
...

wrote in message
oups.com...
The short of it:

Girl who says me or someone else got her pregnant tells me this 9
months ago and I wait. She has baby 2 weeks ago. She scheduled a
test but will not go now. What can I do short of spending thousands
on a lawyer to get her to take the test?


The long of it

she tells me 2 weeks after finding out she's pregnant. I wait nine
months. She cut off contact at the 6 month point. I call her 7 days
after the due date and she tells me the baby was born on the due
date.. There was a test.. it looks like the other guy etc.. I ask for
a copy. She can't produce that and admits there was no test. She
sets one up. I go and give dna, but its been 5 days now and dna
testing company says she has not shown up or paid the bill.

I called child services but they were no help..


Mothers don't need to take a paternity test. The purpose of a paternity
test is to establish a DNA match between the child and the father.

Most states have a law stating the statute of limitations on establishing
paternity. My state's law says there is no statute of limitations on
establishing paternity. Federal law dictates the states cannot set the
statute of limitations on paternity establishment at fewer than 18 years.

As soon as the mother wants child support her sense of urgency regarding
establishing paternity will change.

The is another possibility. The mother and the other putative father can
both sign a voluntary joint declaration of paternity naming him as the
legal
father.




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Old June 29th 07, 03:56 AM posted to alt.child-support
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Default How to force new Mother to take dna test in Pennsylvania


"teachrmama" wrote in message
...
So, Bob, just out of curiosity, since your state has no statute of
limitations regarding paternity, what would happen were a woman to file

when
the child was 20 and attending college? Could she force the father to
provide a college education for a child he never knew existed?


To my knowledge that legal argument has not been before the appeals court.

What I understand, as a layman, is CS for post-secondary education for an
adult child attending school is considered a continuation, by operation of
law, of the care and maintenance child support awarded for a minor child.
Last year the law changed allowing a previous CS order for an adult child
attending school that had lapsed to be reinstated and restarted.

It would be my calculated guess a new order created post-18 would not be
allowed, just as it was not allowed under the previous law language and
appeals court decisions. Who knows what the appeals court would rule if
this issue came before them. Previous decisions from the appeals court have
limited new CS orders to under 18 age children only.

But your question is a valid one - What happens to college support if the
parents divorce or separate after the child reaches 18? I think the answer
is that child would not be considered for CS calculation purposes. But if
they were considered, the adult child could be paid the CS directly AND they
could get an order against BOTH parents for the college support obligation.


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Old June 30th 07, 03:22 PM posted to alt.child-support
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Default How to force new Mother to take dna test in Pennsylvania


"Bob Whiteside" wrote in message
...

wrote in message
ps.com...
Yes, let me make it more Clear.. Some crazy bitch may have my child
and I need to know if it really is so I can get rights. How do I
force her to have the child tested? Is their a standard court
procedure with this?


Yes. Either the unmarried mother or a presumed father can file a

paternity
action to have the court order a DNA test to name the father or exclude a
non-father. These hearing go by several names depending on the state.

They
can be called filiation hearings, establishment hearings, or paternity
hearings.

You will need an attorney to help you cover all the bases and understand

all
of your personal motivations for bringing the legal action. The things an
attorney specializing in paternity can help with are dealing with in-state
cases, Interstate cases, and International disputes. (Where I live these
cases can get very complicated because many of them involve American

citizen
men who had a child with a Mexican citizen woman and she left the U.S. to
return to Mexico with their American citizen child.)


Doesn't surprise me. They even convict people (mainly men) for behaving
within the confines of local laws while visiting other countries!
The day will come when people are prevented from leaving this country. Not
unlike the communist/dictator regimes.





 




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