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help me keep my son from perpetuating the cycle of abuse (very long)
wrote in message news:CurRa.80070$ye4.60298@sccrnsc01...
They released me to the care of my counselor's office where, thankfully, they know me very well and they know I am not a violent psycho like my son and the police were making me out to be and they made arrangements to contact foster care on my behalf and let me go so I could get to class. Lorian, I'm sorry things have gotten to this point. Both you and your son are clearly suffering a great deal. I think it's a very good thing that you're working with the foster care system to find a stable home for him. That seems the best solution in the short term given your resources and his age. Some distance between you two will allow you both to get your equilibrium back and figure out what to do with the assistance of neutral counselors. I hope that you can spend some time tending to your own needs and he, separately, can be helped with the tremendous issues he must be facing. Peace to you both. lm |
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Lisa aka Surfer wrote:
Well done, Tom. You have a bigger heart than I, it was clear from the very first reply from Betsy that she wasn't going to get the point. Yet you still took the time. Man oh man you're doing well these days!!!! Lisa Actually, Lisa, you and Tom are as emotionally abusive to me on here as always and I won't put up with it from you either. And I was able to resolve things with Betsy as I apologized for my sarcasm and she did get through to me in email. Because she did truly care for me and my son's best interests. You never have. You have always been catty and superior and very hurtful to me and I will not allow you to continue to do that to me here. |
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"Lisa aka Surfer" wrote in message ... "Rolly The Pervert" wrote in message ... wrote in message news:rfhSa.101006$H17.30659@sccrnsc02... yeah, because when I have confidence others react to that. When I am depressed I try to isolate myself so as not to be a burden onothers, but my poor son has always been around me through these mood swings and through the fall out of the trauma of the abuse I've taken from others and he must have felt so powerless to help me and of course I was not able to be there for him emotionally, that is a big part of why he is so angry at me I am sure. Also, my confidence level is a main factor of my manic-depression. When I am manic, I am very confident when I am depressed I feel worthless, no matter what. The meds help a lot but only go so far. You know what, this is the sanest thing i've ever read from you. This is all real stuff. Don't tolerate what your kid is doing because of this stuff, but accepting you played a part in causing it is a huge deal. Also, know where he's comming from. Think of when your at wits end with everything around you. imagine being your son, unable to stop it. Think of how it hurts you to be rejected by people you care about, then think of how he must have felt when you were in your harder moments. My advice, let him cool off in foster care. Take some time for yourself, sleep in a bit if your work situation permits it, try to eat a bit better then normal for a while, try to go for a half hour walk everyday, call a friend once a day, don't dump on them, ask them how they are, and listen, and once a day, without telling anyone, do something for someone you don't know. Throw some change at a bum, drop some old clothes off at a womans shelter, volunteer somewhere, offeer a homeless guy a cigarette ( if you smoke ) doensn't have to be anything huge, just don't tell anyone. Then after al that, sit down with your son, have a frank discussion. Tell him you know he's had it rough, tell him what you just said here about how you know you affect him. Then tell him that despite all that, the two of you need to have a relationship together where you have some respect for each other. It'll be hard at first, but i don't think your son is a bad kid, just a hurt one acting bad. I think you'll both find alot of forgiveness. Good luck, I don't like you as a person, and It shouldn't matter who does and who doesn't anyways. you do have a child, and the both of you deserve each other. When you start taking responsibility for the stuff you have a part in, you won't feel the need to **** on yourself unfairly anymore Lorian. I replied to this mostly cause it looks like your starting to do that. Well done, Tom. You have a bigger heart than I, it was clear from the very first reply from Betsy that she wasn't going to get the point. Yet you still took the time. Man oh man you're doing well these days!!!! you're a sweatheart as always I just got in from the beach and my bum is all sun burnt again lol |
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help me keep my son from perpetuating the cycle of abuse (very long)
wrote in message news:KDDSa.107753$N7.14512@sccrnsc03... Lisa aka Surfer wrote: Well done, Tom. You have a bigger heart than I, it was clear from the very first reply from Betsy that she wasn't going to get the point. Yet you still took the time. Man oh man you're doing well these days!!!! Lisa Actually, Lisa, you and Tom are as emotionally abusiveslap And what you gonna do about it? **** off bitch |
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dolores wrote:
wrote in message news:CurRa.80070$ye4.60298@sccrnsc01... Snip Lorian, OMG....this post!!!.. I cannot even begin to imagine how you must have suffered, firstly as a child and now as an adult. Not only were you shortchanged by your parents, but their abuse of you was their legacy to you and is probably the cause of your illness. I was born with my mental illness, manic-depression, also called bipolar disorder, is genetic. But what has really been a problem is the PTSD (post traumatic stress disorder) and that did come from abuse from my parents and the abusers in my life. And this legacy of theirs has not only hurt you, but is being handed down to your son, but not deliberately on your part. You've obviously worked hard at not being your mother or father...But that's one hell of a tough thing to do...It's a known fact that abuse is a hard cycle to break...and all credit to you for what you've done...You've broken the physical cycle from what I can gather...but the psychological one is the hardest....but you are obviously trying and deserve credit for it. I cant imaging how worn down and tired you must be. These teenage years of your sons are probably going to be the hardest too, my heart goes out to you. I think you should be congratulated on the gift of education you've given your son. I reckon this is one part of you that hasnt been contanimated by your parents. You were clear, determined and knew what you were doing. I would say this most definitely came across to your son, otherwise he wouldnt be as knowledgeable as he is. I'd say he has a quiet respect for this side of you. Now if your parents had left you alone, brought you up with kindness, decency and been good to you, then the mother that educated your son would be the same mother that knew how to set boundaries, say no and be comfortable in her own skin (if that makes sense). That is exactly what I feel like. Unfortuantely they stripped you of this and it's been your downfall. I dont think it's your fault, I think its theirs. As a result your son has had to deal with two mothers, the one that knew what she was doing and the other one that was grasping at straws, grappling with herself and unsure. He probably sensed this from a very young age and got away with murder, this has always been one of my fears, that one of my abusers would kill me and get away with it, because I am "crazy", they would claim self defense and with no witnesses... even though I have never been violent. now he's older and fighting back, or more to the point begging for help but doesnt have the know how. Reading your post about the mocha drink he *sounds* like one hell of a spoilt brat!! (Sorry, no offence intended). I would say though it's more a case that you are the only person that he has that he can really truly be himself with, and is letting out all his frustrations on you. I believe kicking him out on to the street will probably destroy him and ruin all the hard work you've put in, not to mention a waste of all the hours of agony that you've gone through. You'd be perpetuating the cycle too..... Breaking it however, is tough and I dont think you will be able to do it on your own, simply cos you havent got the tools or know how (thanks to your parents). This is where fostering to a good home where there are other kids would be a good idea. It would help him in the future, but do nothing for you as a parent. And you need help too. I wish the system would recognize that. Thank you. Going by what you've said it seems to me that this lad didnt really have many rules or boundaries imposed on him, probably becuase you didnt know how to say no.....not that you didnt want to...just probably cos you didnt know when it was appropriate....God!!...I hope I'm not offending you here.... Also, as he became a man beginning two years ago I became afraid to say no, that is how I react to men, even though he is my own son, and that is how he got this way over time. I saw this happening two years ago and tried to get help then, even placing him temporarily in my aunt's home and trying to get help from they system but nobody really heard me. This lad sounds as though he really and truly needs genuine love and attention, to know that he is cherished, *important to somebody*, ideally you...and needed. You really need to let him know that you truly love him and that love is unconditional. After all, given what he witnessed as a child you are hardly in a position to expect pristine behaviour when your own wasnt that great....and he know this and will flog it to the death if you let him. You cant threaten him with the door because his behaviour is in the gutter, when he grew up watching your behaviour with these men. What's weird for him probably is that all my friends are men. I am a computer technician, how many other women computer technicians do you think I know? None. All the computer hardware and software sales clerks are men, all the tech support people I talk to are men, all the security guards, bartenders, cooks, dishwashes, dj's, and barbacks I hang out with at the bar I go to are men, and in my physics class at school they are mostly men. But they all stay where I meet them, I always come home alone. So, he hasn't had any real role models in his daily life. The guys who did enter our lives were always unhealthy and didn't stay for long, I did my best. If he's willing, sit him down, tell him about your own childhood, how you felt at the time and how it affected you growing up. Acknowledge to him that maybe you werent the best parent starting off but now you know you were wrong. *Ask* him what he needs from you. Make it quite clear that he is as much a part of the family as you are and this is his home, it always will be. Tell him that you *need* his help at sorting this out and that you are going to keep trying, you will never give up on him. Get him to open up to you if you can. I will do that when we are ready. However, at some point you really have to set boundaries and rules, give him responsiblity in the home. If this is his home, as much as yours, then he should treat it as such and pull his weight. And these rules have to apply to you too. He is entitled to expect a certain standard of behaviour from you too, just as my lads are entitled to expect a certain standard of behaviour from me. What exactly does this look like? Threatening to throw him on the street is just a more subtle way of perpetuating the cycle of abuse that you recieved, it's instilling fear and builds hostility in his mind. yeah, I can see that. I didn't do that, I just pointed out that when he told me how I didn't do anything around here that if he thought he could manage a household better he could go get himself emancipated and manage his own household. If he's not willing to listen, or it ends up in a fight, sit down and write a letter/email to him. Dont doubt he will read it, a letter never goes unread. However, I do feel it would do him the world of good to go and see how other people live. Call it fostering if you like, but I'd be more inclined to tell him that this is a great opportunity for him to go and see how other people live. Be open about the fact that it will show him how wrong some of the things you did were, and this is a great chance to break the loop. After all, in years to come he might have a family of his own and this time seeing how another family behave might be his saving grace. Can I go to a foster home? Can someone parent me so that I can learn what it feels like to have two parents who love me? No? damn. If he does go to another family though make sure you see or speak to him every single day, without fail, at the same time every day too, so that he knows he can rely on you. First thing in the morning to wish him well and last thing after dinner to see how he is and how he got on. When he comes home ask him what he thinks, and get him to talk in detail if you can, be open about the differences between how you dealt with hiim and how they do. Make it quite clear that this is only a temporary arrangement, that you are under no circumstances turning your back on him or giving up on him. I will. And while he is off with this other family you should foster yourself out too.....Parenting classes are a start and I'm sure if you asked around someone could give you some idea of where to go...... ] ok. I will look for parents anonymous. Well, all the above are only my opinion, for what its worth and hope I havent offened you, as that is not my intention. I'm not really qualified or experienced enough either cos my lads are still only young at 11 and 13, I dont have the wisdom of hindsight as of yet...as many others here in the group do......However, I really feel for what you are going through and hope you and your son manage to get through this. Best of luck thank you for being there for me when I need you Dolores. This means a lot to me. |
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"Rolly The Pervert" wrote in message ... "Lisa aka Surfer" wrote in message ... "Rolly The Pervert" wrote in message ... wrote in message news:rfhSa.101006$H17.30659@sccrnsc02... yeah, because when I have confidence others react to that. When I am depressed I try to isolate myself so as not to be a burden onothers, but my poor son has always been around me through these mood swings and through the fall out of the trauma of the abuse I've taken from others and he must have felt so powerless to help me and of course I was not able to be there for him emotionally, that is a big part of why he is so angry at me I am sure. Also, my confidence level is a main factor of my manic-depression. When I am manic, I am very confident when I am depressed I feel worthless, no matter what. The meds help a lot but only go so far. You know what, this is the sanest thing i've ever read from you. This is all real stuff. Don't tolerate what your kid is doing because of this stuff, but accepting you played a part in causing it is a huge deal. Also, know where he's comming from. Think of when your at wits end with everything around you. imagine being your son, unable to stop it. Think of how it hurts you to be rejected by people you care about, then think of how he must have felt when you were in your harder moments. My advice, let him cool off in foster care. Take some time for yourself, sleep in a bit if your work situation permits it, try to eat a bit better then normal for a while, try to go for a half hour walk everyday, call a friend once a day, don't dump on them, ask them how they are, and listen, and once a day, without telling anyone, do something for someone you don't know. Throw some change at a bum, drop some old clothes off at a womans shelter, volunteer somewhere, offeer a homeless guy a cigarette ( if you smoke ) doensn't have to be anything huge, just don't tell anyone. Then after al that, sit down with your son, have a frank discussion. Tell him you know he's had it rough, tell him what you just said here about how you know you affect him. Then tell him that despite all that, the two of you need to have a relationship together where you have some respect for each other. It'll be hard at first, but i don't think your son is a bad kid, just a hurt one acting bad. I think you'll both find alot of forgiveness. Good luck, I don't like you as a person, and It shouldn't matter who does and who doesn't anyways. you do have a child, and the both of you deserve each other. When you start taking responsibility for the stuff you have a part in, you won't feel the need to **** on yourself unfairly anymore Lorian. I replied to this mostly cause it looks like your starting to do that. Well done, Tom. You have a bigger heart than I, it was clear from the very first reply from Betsy that she wasn't going to get the point. Yet you still took the time. Man oh man you're doing well these days!!!! you're a sweatheart as always I just got in from the beach and my bum is all sun burnt again lol Oh for goodness sakes,,,,,were you in Gatineau again? LOL.....silly There's water proof sunscreen you know Surf |
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"Lisa aka Surfer" wrote in message ... "Rolly The Pervert" wrote in message ... "Lisa aka Surfer" wrote in message ... "Rolly The Pervert" wrote in message ... wrote in message news:rfhSa.101006$H17.30659@sccrnsc02... yeah, because when I have confidence others react to that. When I am depressed I try to isolate myself so as not to be a burden onothers, but my poor son has always been around me through these mood swings and through the fall out of the trauma of the abuse I've taken from others and he must have felt so powerless to help me and of course I was not able to be there for him emotionally, that is a big part of why he is so angry at me I am sure. Also, my confidence level is a main factor of my manic-depression. When I am manic, I am very confident when I am depressed I feel worthless, no matter what. The meds help a lot but only go so far. You know what, this is the sanest thing i've ever read from you. This is all real stuff. Don't tolerate what your kid is doing because of this stuff, but accepting you played a part in causing it is a huge deal. Also, know where he's comming from. Think of when your at wits end with everything around you. imagine being your son, unable to stop it. Think of how it hurts you to be rejected by people you care about, then think of how he must have felt when you were in your harder moments. My advice, let him cool off in foster care. Take some time for yourself, sleep in a bit if your work situation permits it, try to eat a bit better then normal for a while, try to go for a half hour walk everyday, call a friend once a day, don't dump on them, ask them how they are, and listen, and once a day, without telling anyone, do something for someone you don't know. Throw some change at a bum, drop some old clothes off at a womans shelter, volunteer somewhere, offeer a homeless guy a cigarette ( if you smoke ) doensn't have to be anything huge, just don't tell anyone. Then after al that, sit down with your son, have a frank discussion. Tell him you know he's had it rough, tell him what you just said here about how you know you affect him. Then tell him that despite all that, the two of you need to have a relationship together where you have some respect for each other. It'll be hard at first, but i don't think your son is a bad kid, just a hurt one acting bad. I think you'll both find alot of forgiveness. Good luck, I don't like you as a person, and It shouldn't matter who does and who doesn't anyways. you do have a child, and the both of you deserve each other. When you start taking responsibility for the stuff you have a part in, you won't feel the need to **** on yourself unfairly anymore Lorian. I replied to this mostly cause it looks like your starting to do that. Well done, Tom. You have a bigger heart than I, it was clear from the very first reply from Betsy that she wasn't going to get the point. Yet you still took the time. Man oh man you're doing well these days!!!! you're a sweatheart as always I just got in from the beach and my bum is all sun burnt again lol Oh for goodness sakes,,,,,were you in Gatineau again? Oka beach actually hehe,. more people. some of those guys though , lol, well i wouldn't if I were them LOL.....silly There's water proof sunscreen you know heh hot ass ... lol Surf |
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"Rolly The Pervert" wrote in message ... wrote in message news:KDDSa.107753$N7.14512@sccrnsc03... Lisa aka Surfer wrote: Well done, Tom. You have a bigger heart than I, it was clear from the very first reply from Betsy that she wasn't going to get the point. Yet you still took the time. Man oh man you're doing well these days!!!! Lisa Actually, Lisa, you and Tom are as emotionally abusiveslap And what you gonna do about it? **** off bitch Typical looney lorain.......straight out of the 'women's studies' textbook.............if they don't agree with you, label them abusive etc. |
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wrote in message news:KDDSa.107753$N7.14512@sccrnsc03... Lisa aka Surfer wrote: Well done, Tom. You have a bigger heart than I, it was clear from the very first reply from Betsy that she wasn't going to get the point. Yet you still took the time. Man oh man you're doing well these days!!!! Lisa Actually, Lisa, you and Tom are as emotionally abusive to me on here as always and I won't put up with it from you either. And I was able to resolve things with Betsy as I apologized for my sarcasm and she did get through to me in email. Because she did truly care for me and my son's best interests. You never have. You have always been catty and superior and very hurtful to me and I will not allow you to continue to do that to me here. L, you need to let go of this 'being abused online' stuff. No one can hurt you unless you let them, online. Don't read their posts for god sake. |
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wrote in message news:vZDSa.107781$N7.14327@sccrnsc03... dolores wrote: wrote in message news:CurRa.80070$ye4.60298@sccrnsc01... Snip Lorian, OMG....this post!!!.. I cannot even begin to imagine how you must have suffered, firstly as a child and now as an adult. Not only were you shortchanged by your parents, but their abuse of you was their legacy to you and is probably the cause of your illness. I was born with my mental illness, manic-depression, also called bipolar disorder, is genetic. But what has really been a problem is the PTSD (post traumatic stress disorder) and that did come from abuse from my parents and the abusers in my life. And this legacy of theirs has not only hurt you, but is being handed down to your son, but not deliberately on your part. You've obviously worked hard at not being your mother or father...But that's one hell of a tough thing to do...It's a known fact that abuse is a hard cycle to break...and all credit to you for what you've done...You've broken the physical cycle from what I can gather...but the psychological one is the hardest....but you are obviously trying and deserve credit for it. I cant imaging how worn down and tired you must be. These teenage years of your sons are probably going to be the hardest too, my heart goes out to you. I think you should be congratulated on the gift of education you've given your son. I reckon this is one part of you that hasnt been contanimated by your parents. You were clear, determined and knew what you were doing. I would say this most definitely came across to your son, otherwise he wouldnt be as knowledgeable as he is. I'd say he has a quiet respect for this side of you. Now if your parents had left you alone, brought you up with kindness, decency and been good to you, then the mother that educated your son would be the same mother that knew how to set boundaries, say no and be comfortable in her own skin (if that makes sense). That is exactly what I feel like. Unfortuantely they stripped you of this and it's been your downfall. I dont think it's your fault, I think its theirs. As a result your son has had to deal with two mothers, the one that knew what she was doing and the other one that was grasping at straws, grappling with herself and unsure. He probably sensed this from a very young age and got away with murder, this has always been one of my fears, that one of my abusers would kill me and get away with it, because I am "crazy", they would claim self defense and with no witnesses... even though I have never been violent. No I didn't mean *real* murder (getting away with murder must be an Irish phrase). I meant that he knew he could push the boundaries with you cos he could tell you had difficulty saying no.... now he's older and fighting back, or more to the point begging for help but doesnt have the know how. Reading your post about the mocha drink he *sounds* like one hell of a spoilt brat!! (Sorry, no offence intended). I would say though it's more a case that you are the only person that he has that he can really truly be himself with, and is letting out all his frustrations on you. I believe kicking him out on to the street will probably destroy him and ruin all the hard work you've put in, not to mention a waste of all the hours of agony that you've gone through. You'd be perpetuating the cycle too..... Breaking it however, is tough and I dont think you will be able to do it on your own, simply cos you havent got the tools or know how (thanks to your parents). This is where fostering to a good home where there are other kids would be a good idea. It would help him in the future, but do nothing for you as a parent. And you need help too. I wish the system would recognize that. Thank you. Going by what you've said it seems to me that this lad didnt really have many rules or boundaries imposed on him, probably becuase you didnt know how to say no.....not that you didnt want to...just probably cos you didnt know when it was appropriate....God!!...I hope I'm not offending you here.... Also, as he became a man beginning two years ago I became afraid to say no, that is how I react to men, even though he is my own son, and that is how he got this way over time. I saw this happening two years ago and tried to get help then, even placing him temporarily in my aunt's home and trying to get help from they system but nobody really heard me. This lad sounds as though he really and truly needs genuine love and attention, to know that he is cherished, *important to somebody*, ideally you...and needed. You really need to let him know that you truly love him and that love is unconditional. After all, given what he witnessed as a child you are hardly in a position to expect pristine behaviour when your own wasnt that great....and he know this and will flog it to the death if you let him. You cant threaten him with the door because his behaviour is in the gutter, when he grew up watching your behaviour with these men. What's weird for him probably is that all my friends are men. I am a computer technician, how many other women computer technicians do you think I know? None. All the computer hardware and software sales clerks are men, all the tech support people I talk to are men, all the security guards, bartenders, cooks, dishwashes, dj's, and barbacks I hang out with at the bar I go to are men, and in my physics class at school they are mostly men. But they all stay where I meet them, I always come home alone. So, he hasn't had any real role models in his daily life. The guys who did enter our lives were always unhealthy and didn't stay for long, I did my best. If he's willing, sit him down, tell him about your own childhood, how you felt at the time and how it affected you growing up. Acknowledge to him that maybe you werent the best parent starting off but now you know you were wrong. *Ask* him what he needs from you. Make it quite clear that he is as much a part of the family as you are and this is his home, it always will be. Tell him that you *need* his help at sorting this out and that you are going to keep trying, you will never give up on him. Get him to open up to you if you can. I will do that when we are ready. However, at some point you really have to set boundaries and rules, give him responsiblity in the home. If this is his home, as much as yours, then he should treat it as such and pull his weight. And these rules have to apply to you too. He is entitled to expect a certain standard of behaviour from you too, just as my lads are entitled to expect a certain standard of behaviour from me. What exactly does this look like? Threatening to throw him on the street is just a more subtle way of perpetuating the cycle of abuse that you recieved, it's instilling fear and builds hostility in his mind. yeah, I can see that. I didn't do that, I just pointed out that when he told me how I didn't do anything around here that if he thought he could manage a household better he could go get himself emancipated and manage his own household. Oh I didnt mean *you* threatened it, I meant a few others that replied to your post suggested it, and (personally) I dont this would be good in your particular situation, after all who else has this lad got....and it would probably cause more problems than it would solve, I think. If he's not willing to listen, or it ends up in a fight, sit down and write a letter/email to him. Dont doubt he will read it, a letter never goes unread. However, I do feel it would do him the world of good to go and see how other people live. Call it fostering if you like, but I'd be more inclined to tell him that this is a great opportunity for him to go and see how other people live. Be open about the fact that it will show him how wrong some of the things you did were, and this is a great chance to break the loop. After all, in years to come he might have a family of his own and this time seeing how another family behave might be his saving grace. Can I go to a foster home? Can someone parent me so that I can learn what it feels like to have two parents who love me? No? damn. This is what I think would have been ideal for you when you first became pregnant. I think social services should try and help, not just you, but all first time mothers that have come from an abusive family by placing them in a family that could be considered relatively normal (cos there's no such thing as an ideal family). Long term it would save the Gov. a whole lot of money and there'd be a lot less children in this world suffering, simply cos the parents had no idea how to be parents. If he does go to another family though make sure you see or speak to him every single day, without fail, at the same time every day too, so that he knows he can rely on you. First thing in the morning to wish him well and last thing after dinner to see how he is and how he got on. When he comes home ask him what he thinks, and get him to talk in detail if you can, be open about the differences between how you dealt with hiim and how they do. Make it quite clear that this is only a temporary arrangement, that you are under no circumstances turning your back on him or giving up on him. I will. And while he is off with this other family you should foster yourself out too.....Parenting classes are a start and I'm sure if you asked around someone could give you some idea of where to go...... ] ok. I will look for parents anonymous. Oh yeah!!.. I never thought of this group. Did you ever consider going to them before, when your lad was little? Well, all the above are only my opinion, for what its worth and hope I havent offened you, as that is not my intention. I'm not really qualified or experienced enough either cos my lads are still only young at 11 and 13, I dont have the wisdom of hindsight as of yet...as many others here in the group do......However, I really feel for what you are going through and hope you and your son manage to get through this. Best of luck thank you for being there for me when I need you Dolores. This means a lot to me. I dont know if I would call this *being there* for you, but I hope things do get better for you. Dolores |
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