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Mercury in Vaccines
I've seen enormous amounts of Vaccination Disinformation posted on
Usenet ... interestingly enough for the most part by those connected with the Quackwatch / Ratbags Posse headed by disgraced Peter Bowditch of Genesse. For sure ... disbarred Probert and such notable other anti-science flacks will insult and defame Dr. Mercola ... such is their way. Mercury in Vaccines Uproar over a little-known preservative, thimerosal, jostles U.S. hepatitis B vaccination policy In 1997, when Frank Pallone, a Democratic congressman from New Jersey, attached a simple amendment to an FDA reauthorization bill, he could not have predicted that it would cause such a commotion two years later. His amendment ran just 133 words. It gave FDA two years to "compile a list of drugs and foods that contain intentionally introduced mercury compounds and . [to] provide a quantitative and qualitative analysis of the mercury compounds in the list.." The bill later evolved into the landmark FDA Modernization Act of 1997 (FDAMA) and was signed into law on November 21, 1997. Pallone's amendment undoubtedly sprang from his long interest in environmental causes. But he had unwittingly set into motion a chain of events that would, two years later, bring turmoil to the immunization policy world and fears of harm to the nation's hepatitis B control effort. Facts about thimerosal and mercury Thimerosal is a water-soluble, cream-colored crystalline powder. It is 49.6% mercury by weight. In the human body, thimerosal is metabolized to ethylmercury and thiosalicylate. The literature on thimerosal metabolism and excretion is limited and old. Case reports have demonstrated toxicity after massive overdoses. Toxicological information on the chief metabolite of thimerosal, ethylmercury, is extremely limited. During the recent controversy over the safety of thimerosal in vaccines, toxicologists have assumed that the toxicity of ethylmercury is equivalent to the toxicity of methylmercury. The toxicity of methylmercury is complex and depends on the type, level, and duration of exposure. The primary environmental exposure is through consumption of predator fish. A 6-ounce can of tuna fish contains an average of 17 micrograms of mercury. A pediatric dose of hepatitis B vaccine contains 12.5 micrograms. The major toxicity of mercury is manifested in the central nervous system. Forty years ago, when women at Minamata Bay, Japan, ate fish contaminated with methylmercury from pollutants, their children were exposed to high levels in utero and were born with severe developmental and neurological disorders. Methylmercury poisoning also occurred in Iraq following consumption of seed grain that had been treated with a fungicide containing methylmercury. More at: http://www.mercola.com/2000/feb/6/mercury.htm .. *** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com *** |
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Mercury in Vaccines
Ilena wrote in message ... I've seen enormous amounts of Vaccination Disinformation posted on Usenet ... interestingly enough for the most part by those connected with the Quackwatch / Ratbags Posse headed by disgraced Peter Bowditch of Genesse. For sure ... disbarred Probert and such notable other anti-science flacks will insult and defame Dr. Mercola ... such is their way. Personally I find very little of what Mercola says is accurate or based on science. Mercury in Vaccines Uproar over a little-known preservative, thimerosal, jostles U.S. hepatitis B vaccination policy In 1997, when Frank Pallone, a Democratic congressman from New Jersey, attached a simple amendment to an FDA reauthorization bill, he could not have predicted that it would cause such a commotion two years later. His amendment ran just 133 words. It gave FDA two years to "compile a list of drugs and foods that contain intentionally introduced mercury compounds and . [to] provide a quantitative and qualitative analysis of the mercury compounds in the list.." The bill later evolved into the landmark FDA Modernization Act of 1997 (FDAMA) and was signed into law on November 21, 1997. Pallone's amendment undoubtedly sprang from his long interest in environmental causes. But he had unwittingly set into motion a chain of events that would, two years later, bring turmoil to the immunization policy world and fears of harm to the nation's hepatitis B control effort. Facts about thimerosal and mercury Thimerosal is a water-soluble, cream-colored crystalline powder. It is 49.6% mercury by weight. In the human body, thimerosal is metabolized to ethylmercury and thiosalicylate. The literature on thimerosal metabolism and excretion is limited and old. Case reports have demonstrated toxicity after massive overdoses. Toxicological information on the chief metabolite of thimerosal, ethylmercury, is extremely limited. During the recent controversy over the safety of thimerosal in vaccines, toxicologists have assumed that the toxicity of ethylmercury is equivalent to the toxicity of methylmercury. The toxicity of methylmercury is complex and depends on the type, level, and duration of exposure. The primary environmental exposure is through consumption of predator fish. A 6-ounce can of tuna fish contains an average of 17 micrograms of mercury. This assumption is a bad assumption. Methylmercury is actively taken into the brain; Ethylmercury is not. So the toxicity of ethylmercury is a lot less. A pediatric dose of hepatitis B vaccine contains 12.5 micrograms. The major toxicity of mercury is manifested in the central nervous system. Except that ethylmercury, in the doses used, has never been shown to be harmful the human brain. Forty years ago, when women at Minamata Bay, Japan, ate fish contaminated with methylmercury from pollutants, their children were exposed to high levels in utero and were born with severe developmental and neurological disorders. Methylmercury poisoning also occurred in Iraq following consumption of seed grain that had been treated with a fungicide containing methylmercury. Yet, there still is no evidence that the amount of ethylmercury in vaccines is dangerous. Jeff More at: http://www.mercola.com/2000/feb/6/mercury.htm . *** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com *** |
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Mercury in Vaccines
"Jeff" wrote in message nk.net... Ilena wrote in message ... I've seen enormous amounts of Vaccination Disinformation posted on Usenet ... interestingly enough for the most part by those connected with the Quackwatch / Ratbags Posse headed by disgraced Peter Bowditch of Genesse. For sure ... disbarred Probert and such notable other anti-science flacks will insult and defame Dr. Mercola ... such is their way. Personally I find very little of what Mercola says is accurate or based on science. Mercury in Vaccines Uproar over a little-known preservative, thimerosal, jostles U.S. hepatitis B vaccination policy In 1997, when Frank Pallone, a Democratic congressman from New Jersey, attached a simple amendment to an FDA reauthorization bill, he could not have predicted that it would cause such a commotion two years later. His amendment ran just 133 words. It gave FDA two years to "compile a list of drugs and foods that contain intentionally introduced mercury compounds and . [to] provide a quantitative and qualitative analysis of the mercury compounds in the list.." The bill later evolved into the landmark FDA Modernization Act of 1997 (FDAMA) and was signed into law on November 21, 1997. Pallone's amendment undoubtedly sprang from his long interest in environmental causes. But he had unwittingly set into motion a chain of events that would, two years later, bring turmoil to the immunization policy world and fears of harm to the nation's hepatitis B control effort. Facts about thimerosal and mercury Thimerosal is a water-soluble, cream-colored crystalline powder. It is 49.6% mercury by weight. In the human body, thimerosal is metabolized to ethylmercury and thiosalicylate. The literature on thimerosal metabolism and excretion is limited and old. Case reports have demonstrated toxicity after massive overdoses. Toxicological information on the chief metabolite of thimerosal, ethylmercury, is extremely limited. During the recent controversy over the safety of thimerosal in vaccines, toxicologists have assumed that the toxicity of ethylmercury is equivalent to the toxicity of methylmercury. The toxicity of methylmercury is complex and depends on the type, level, and duration of exposure. The primary environmental exposure is through consumption of predator fish. A 6-ounce can of tuna fish contains an average of 17 micrograms of mercury. This assumption is a bad assumption. Methylmercury is actively taken into the brain; Ethylmercury is not. So the toxicity of ethylmercury is a lot less. http://www.altcorp.com/DentalInformation/exposure.htm III. MECHANISMS, SOURCES & EPIDEMIOLOGY OF EXPOSURE Sallie Bernard*, Albert Enayati, B.S., Ch.E., M.S.M.E., Heidi Roger, Teresa Binstock, Lyn Redwood, R.N., M.S.N., C.R.N.P., Woody McGinnis, M.D. Given that ethylmercury is equally neurotoxic as methylmercury (Magos et al, 1985), and that injected mercury is more harmful than ingested mercury (EPA, 1997, p.3-55; Diner and Brenner, 1998), the amount of injected ethylmercury given to young children is cause for concern. The potential for Hg-induced harm is compounded by the special vulnerability of infants (Gosselin et al, 1984). Mercury, which primarily affects the central nervous system, is most toxic to the developing brain (Davis et al, 1994; Grandjean et al, 1999; Yeates and Mortensen, 1994), and neonates exposed to methyl (organic) mercury have been shown to accumulate significantly more Hg in the brain relative to other tissues than do adults ( EPA, 1997, p.4-1). Mercury may also be more likely to enter the infant brain because the blood-brain barrier has not fully closed (Wild & Benzel, 1994). In addition, infants under 6 months are unable to excrete mercury, most likely due to their inability to produce bile, the main excretion route for organic mercury (Koos and Longo, 1976; Clarkson, 1993). Bakir et al (1973) have shown that those with the longest half-time of clearance are most likely to experience adverse sequelae, while Aschner and Aschner (1990) have demonstrated that the longer that organic mercury remains in neurons, the more it is converted to its inorganic irreversibly-bound form, which has greater neurotoxicity. ontact Dermatitis. 1993 Sep;29(3):152-4. Related Articles, Links Ethylmercuric chloride: the responsible agent in thimerosal hypersensitivity. Pirker C, Moslinger T, Wantke F, Gotz M, Jarisch R. Dermatologic and Pediatric Allergy Clinic, Vienna, Austria. The causative agent of thimerosal allergy (sodium ethylmercury thiosalicylate) has not previously been thoroughly investigated. To evaluate whether the organic mercury component or the thiosalicylic acid molecule induces thimerosal sensitization, 23 patients positive to thimerosal were patch tested with ethylmercuric chloride, thiosalicylic acid and 8 different derivatives of mercury. To date, ethylmercuric chloride has not been tested in thimerosal allergy. 19/23 patients (82%) showed positive patch test reactions to ethylmercuric chloride. 4/23 patients negative to ethylmercuric chloride reacted positively to thimerosal 0.1% but not to thimerosal 0.05%. 8/23 patients (35%) also reacted to other mercurials. 20 controls negative to thimerosal showed negative patch test reactions to ethylmercuric chloride. Neither patients nor controls reacted to thiosalicylic acid. These results indicate that testing with thimerosal 0.1% leads to false-positive reactions and that the ethyl mercury component is the responsible agent in thimerosal allergy. PMID: 8222628 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] http://poisonevercure.150m.com/autism.htm Autistic children are shown to retain abnormally high concentrations of mercury from environmental sources such as vaccines. ********* (Until recently, the FDA administration concealed their knowledge that thimerosal has been known to cross through the blood-brain barrier and concentrate in the brain).*********** In a recent communication with Congressman Dr. Weldon, CDC conceded that some of the routinely recommended vaccines contained the full amount of thimerosal (25 mcg) as late as 2003. Those are not to expire until towards the end of 2005. There is no existing reason to believe that manufactures have it in mind to completely remove thimerosal from childhood vaccines in the near future. Much to my alarm, documents recently obtained from the World Health Organization (WHO)state that their policy is to lobby strongly for maintaining thimerosal in vaccines as they see it necessary to use childhood vaccines in third world countries. The mentality is that if thimerosal is taken out of American childhood vaccines, the third world countries will not accept thimerosal-containing childhood vaccines. This seems to be a clear disturbing indication that, for whatever reason, WHO desires to inoculate third world country populations with thimerosal containing vaccines. This is an agency that claims to have an interest in making sure that children in developing countries have the best opportunities at life. How is that possible when they are being deliberately poisoned with high concentrations of a neurotoxins? There exists many decades worth of peer-reviewed literature (literally hundreds) on the dangers of thimerosal which include case-reports, animal studies, tissues culture studies, genetic studies, toxicology studies, and biochemical studies. According to the above article, CDC, HHS and AAP warns that 1/166 children have autistic spectrum disorders and even more alarming, 1/6 children have developmental and or behavioral disorders. The World Health Organization's (WHO) Expert Committee on Biological Standardization acknowledges that thimerosal is essential during vaccine production to inactivate certain pathogenic organisms and toxins and prevent microbial growth during vaccine storage and use. (click here to view document). Read the Eli Lilly's, manufacturer of thimerosal, safety data sheet on thimerosal. According to this document, thimerosal will react with strong oxidizing agents and one listed is peroxides. Another vaccine component. Also listed are the effects, including signs and symptoms of exposure such as topical allergic dermatitis, topical hypersensitivity reactions. Early signs of mercury poisoning are noted as nervous system effects which include narrowing of the visual field and numbness in the extremities. "Exposure to mercury in utero and in children can cause mild to severe mental retardation and mild to severe motor coordination's impairment". Primary routes of entry are listed as inhalation and skin contact. For shipping information, there's no question of the label: POISONS accompanied by the skull and bones picture label. Mercury over stimulates the brain's immune system. Over stimulation of the brain results in activation of the microglia widely dispersed in the brain. When the microglia are activated, they release toxins killing surrounding brains cells. Prolonged stimulation of the microglia by too many vaccines kills far too many brain cells. Though, some may find the reasoning of this imitation form of immunization to make sense and logic, studying the peer review, lab work and studies conducting the safety of such the practice will encourage you to think twice. The dangers of inoculating children and adults with vile microorganisms is potentially fatal. World Health Organization is privy to this information. Other material indicate they know that more children would die and or die quicker without the thimerosal. Sounds insane, but a fact worth keeping in mind and or researching on your own. So, in order to inactivate these microorganisms something even more toxic is needed to do just that. That's where the thimerosal comes in. These facts alone should raise a few eyebrows. Remember, in the records of mercury toxicology, it only takes 35 mcg to kill a rabbit. Now, think about how much is in each vaccine. There's 25mcg in Hib, Pneumococcal (except for Prevnar), DTaP, all Tetanus brands. Then there's 12.5 in the Hep b. How much thimerosal is needed should be your other indicator of the dangers of vaccines. The next indicator is how many doses children receive by school registration. It's one Russian roulette game after another to keep the big bucks packing into the pockets of the big dogs. Mol Psychiatry. 2004 Sep;9(9):833-45.Related Articles, Links Neurotoxic effects of postnatal thimerosal are mouse strain dependent. Hornig M, Chian D, Lipkin WI. Jerome L and Dawn Greene Infectious Disease Laboratory, Department of Epidemiology, Mailman School of Public Health, Columbia University, New York, NY 10032, USA. The developing brain is uniquely susceptible to the neurotoxic hazard posed by mercurials. Host differences in maturation, metabolism, nutrition, sex, and autoimmunity influence outcomes. How population-based variability affects the safety of the ethylmercury-containing vaccine preservative, thimerosal, is unknown. Reported increases in the prevalence of autism, a highly heritable neuropsychiatric condition, are intensifying public focus on environmental exposures such as thimerosal. Immune profiles and family history in autism are frequently consistent with autoimmunity. We hypothesized that autoimmune propensity influences outcomes in mice following thimerosal challenges that mimic routine childhood immunizations. Autoimmune disease-sensitive SJL/J mice showed growth delay; reduced locomotion; exaggerated response to novelty; and densely packed, hyperchromic hippocampal neurons with altered glutamate receptors and transporters. Strains resistant to autoimmunity, C57BL/6J and BALB/cJ, were not susceptible. These findings implicate genetic influences and provide a model for investigating thimerosal-related neurotoxicity. PMID: 15184908 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] 1: Neurotoxicology. 1989 Winter;10(4):699-706.Related Articles, Links Effect of organic and inorganic mercuric salts on Na+K+ATPase in different cerebral fractions in control and intrauterine growth-retarded rats: alterations induced by serotonin. Chanez C, Flexor MA, Bourre JM. Unite 26, INSERM, Hopital Fernand WIDAL, Paris, France. An intrauterine growth-retarded (IUGR) model based on restriction of blood supply to the rat fetus at the 17th day of pregnancy was studied. We investigated in vitro the effects of thimerosal and mercuric chloride on Na+K+ATPase activity in total brain homogenate, synaptosomes and myelin at weaning. In addition, we evaluated the reversal effect of serotonin on mercury-inhibited Na+K+ATPase activity. The toxicity, in terms of inhibition of Na+K+ATPase activity was greater with mercuric chloride than with thimerosal. Synaptosomes and principally myelin were more sensitive to the metal salts than total homogenate. Serotonin stimulated the Na+K+ATPase activity in total brain homogenate and synaptosomes but inhibited the enzyme in the myelin fraction. This effect was more marked in the IUGR group than in the control group. Serotonin (1 mM) added to total homogenate pretreated with the mercury salts produced variable reversal effects. In the synaptosomal fraction reverse effect was noted with serotonin. In myelin fraction, added serotonin increased inhibition caused by thimerosal. PMID: 2562765 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] 1: Int J Biochem. 1983;15(1):5-7.Related Articles, Links Rat brain (Na+-K+)ATPase: modulation of its ouabain-sensitive K+-PNPPase activity by thimerosal. Lewis RN, Bowler K. 1. The (Na+ + K+) ATPase activity of a rat brain synaptic membrane preparation was inhibited by 10(-5) M thimerosal. 2. The ouabain inhibitable K+-PNPPase activity of thimerosal treated membranes was compared with that of untreated membranes with respect to sensitivity to temperature, ouabain, K+ and ATP. 3. All those kinetic characteristics were substantially altered by treatment with thimerosal. PMID: 6298022 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] http://www.nupr.neu.edu/2-04/deth_article.pdf Mol Psychiatry. 2004 Apr;9(4):358-70. Related Articles, Links Activation of methionine synthase by insulin-like growth factor-1 and dopamine: a target for neurodevelopmental toxins and thimerosal. Waly M, Olteanu H, Banerjee R, Choi SW, Mason JB, Parker BS, Sukumar S, Shim S, Sharma A, Benzecry JM, Power-Charnitsky VA, Deth RC. Department of Pharmaceutical Sciences, Northeastern University, Boston, MA 02115, USA. Methylation events play a critical role in the ability of growth factors to promote normal development. Neurodevelopmental toxins, such as ethanol and heavy metals, interrupt growth factor signaling, raising the possibility that they might exert adverse effects on methylation. We found that insulin-like growth factor-1 (IGF-1)- and dopamine-stimulated methionine synthase (MS) activity and folate-dependent methylation of phospholipids in SH-SY5Y human neuroblastoma cells, via a PI3-kinase- and MAP-kinase-dependent mechanism. The stimulation of this pathway increased DNA methylation, while its inhibition increased methylation-sensitive gene expression. Ethanol potently interfered with IGF-1 activation of MS and blocked its effect on DNA methylation, whereas it did not inhibit the effects of dopamine. Metal ions potently affected IGF-1 and dopamine-stimulated MS activity, as well as folate-dependent phospholipid methylation: Cu(2+) promoted enzyme activity and methylation, while Cu(+), Pb(2+), Hg(2+) and Al(3+) were inhibitory. The ethylmercury-containing preservative thimerosal inhibited both IGF-1- and dopamine-stimulated methylation with an IC(50) of 1 nM and eliminated MS activity. Our findings outline a novel growth factor signaling pathway that regulates MS activity and thereby modulates methylation reactions, including DNA methylation. The potent inhibition of this pathway by ethanol, lead, mercury, aluminum and thimerosal suggests that it may be an important target of neurodevelopmental toxins. PMID: 14745455 [PubMed - in process] Blood work from kids SHOULD have been taken within two to four hours, NOT days after vaccines, thimerosal crosses the blood brain barrier and is stored in the brain. http://www.altcorp.com/DentalInformation/asdexperts.htm A pediatric dose of hepatitis B vaccine contains 12.5 micrograms. The major toxicity of mercury is manifested in the central nervous system. Except that ethylmercury, in the doses used, has never been shown to be harmful the human brain. http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group...ccinethensick/ http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/hepatitisB.htm http://www.mercola.com/2002/jan/23/h...is_vaccine.htm Is Hepatitis Vaccine Safe? The Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) was developed by the government to report vaccine reactions. Many experts believe that only 10% of the adverse reactions are reported though as reporting is not mandated by law. Even with only 10% of the problems being reported there were nearly 25,000 VAERS hepatitis B reports from July 1990 to October 31, 1998, showing 439 deaths and 9673 serious reactions involving emergency room visits, hospitalization, disablement or death. The presence of findings such as brain edema in healthy infants who die very soon after receiving hepatitis B vaccine is profoundly disturbing, especially in view of the frequency of neurologic symptoms in the VAERS. Does this make any sense? Is Hepatitis B Vaccine Effective in Newborns? Vaccine derived immunity is thought to be short lived. Between 30-50% of vaccinated individuals lose their antibiodies within 7 years. Up to 60% of persons who initially respond will lose detectable antibodies within 12 years.. So that means that these vaccines will provide little to no protection to the real risks of acquiring hepatitis B, promiscuous sexual behavior and IV drug abuse. Does this make any sense? How Many Children Are Hurt or Helped By Hepatitis B Vaccine? Hepatitis B is a rare, mainly blood-transmitted disease. In 1996 only 54 cases of the disease were reported to the CDC in the 0-1 age group. There were 3.9 million births that year, so the observed incidence of hepatitis B in the 0-1 age group was just 0.001%. In the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS), there were 1,080 total reports of adverse reactions from hepatitis B vaccine in 1996 in the 0-1 age group, with 47 deaths reported. Forty years ago, when women at Minamata Bay, Japan, ate fish contaminated with methylmercury from pollutants, their children were exposed to high levels in utero and were born with severe developmental and neurological disorders. Methylmercury poisoning also occurred in Iraq following consumption of seed grain that had been treated with a fungicide containing methylmercury. Yet, there still is no evidence that the amount of ethylmercury in vaccines is dangerous. Jeff More at: http://www.mercola.com/2000/feb/6/mercury.htm . *** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com *** |
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Jeff wrote:
This assumption is a bad assumption. Methylmercury is actively taken into the brain; Ethylmercury is not. So the toxicity of ethylmercury is a lot less. Wow. That is absolutely wrong. Ethylmercury does, in fact, make its way into the brain. http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/art...?artid=1280369 "Brain concentrations of total mercury were approximately 3-4 times lower in the thimerosal group than in the methylmercury group, and total mercury cleared more rapidly in the thimerosal group (with a half-life of 24.2 days versus 59.5 days). However, the proportion of inorganic mercury in the brain was much higher in the thimerosal group (21-86% of total mercury) compared to the methylmercury group (6-10%). Brain concentrations of inorganic mercury were approximately twice as high in the thimerosal group compared to the methylmercury group. Inorganic mercury remains in the brain much longer than organic mercury, with an estimated half-life of more than a year. It's not currently known whether inorganic mercury presents any risk to the developing brain." It makes it OUT of the brain faster than Methylmercury, but there is no data proving that a quicker exit relates to zero damage. A pediatric dose of hepatitis B vaccine contains 12.5 micrograms. The major toxicity of mercury is manifested in the central nervous system. Except that ethylmercury, in the doses used, has never been shown to be harmful the human brain. Just because something "has not been shown" does not mean it isn't so. It simply means the right study has not been performed. Can you please show us a broad study comparing 100% unvaccinated children with vaccinated children that compare the gambit of possible risk factors of thimerosal such as autism, ADD/ADHD, asthma and several neurodegenerative disorders? To my knowledge, such a study does not exist. That being the case, it's no wonder "it has never been shown." Yet, there still is no evidence that the amount of ethylmercury in vaccines is dangerous. There's plenty of evidence. It just so happens that, at this time, it's all anecdotal. As I said, the proper studies have not been done. Max. |
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"Max C." wrote:
Jeff wrote: This assumption is a bad assumption. Methylmercury is actively taken into the brain; Ethylmercury is not. So the toxicity of ethylmercury is a lot less. Wow. That is absolutely wrong. Ethylmercury does, in fact, make its way into the brain. http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/art...?artid=1280369 "Brain concentrations of total mercury were approximately 3-4 times lower in the thimerosal group than in the methylmercury group, and total mercury cleared more rapidly in the thimerosal group (with a half-life of 24.2 days versus 59.5 days). However, the proportion of inorganic mercury in the brain was much higher in the thimerosal group (21-86% of total mercury) compared to the methylmercury group (6-10%). Brain concentrations of inorganic mercury were approximately twice as high in the thimerosal group compared to the methylmercury group. Inorganic mercury remains in the brain much longer than organic mercury, with an estimated half-life of more than a year. It's not currently known whether inorganic mercury presents any risk to the developing brain." And where does the word "ethylmercury" appear in the above? (Perhaps I can't see it. After all, I have to rely on Google to find things.) Feel free to tell us that "inorganic mercury" is "ethylmercury". We need a good laugh. It makes it OUT of the brain faster than Methylmercury, but there is no data proving that a quicker exit relates to zero damage. A pediatric dose of hepatitis B vaccine contains 12.5 micrograms. The major toxicity of mercury is manifested in the central nervous system. Except that ethylmercury, in the doses used, has never been shown to be harmful the human brain. Just because something "has not been shown" does not mean it isn't so. It simply means the right study has not been performed. Can you please show us a broad study comparing 100% unvaccinated children with vaccinated children that compare the gambit of possible risk factors of thimerosal such as autism, ADD/ADHD, asthma and several neurodegenerative disorders? To my knowledge, such a study does not exist. That being the case, it's no wonder "it has never been shown." Yet, there still is no evidence that the amount of ethylmercury in vaccines is dangerous. There's plenty of evidence. It just so happens that, at this time, it's all anecdotal. As I said, the proper studies have not been done. Max. -- Peter Bowditch aa #2243 The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au Australian Skeptics http://www.skeptics.com.au To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com |
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"Peter Bowditch" wrote in message ... "Max C." wrote: Jeff wrote: This assumption is a bad assumption. Methylmercury is actively taken into the brain; Ethylmercury is not. So the toxicity of ethylmercury is a lot less. Wow. That is absolutely wrong. Ethylmercury does, in fact, make its way into the brain. http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/art...?artid=1280369 "Brain concentrations of total mercury were approximately 3-4 times lower in the thimerosal group than in the methylmercury group, and total mercury cleared more rapidly in the thimerosal group (with a half-life of 24.2 days versus 59.5 days). However, the proportion of inorganic mercury in the brain was much higher in the thimerosal group (21-86% of total mercury) compared to the methylmercury group (6-10%). Brain concentrations of inorganic mercury were approximately twice as high in the thimerosal group compared to the methylmercury group. Inorganic mercury remains in the brain much longer than organic mercury, with an estimated half-life of more than a year. It's not currently known whether inorganic mercury presents any risk to the developing brain." And where does the word "ethylmercury" appear in the above? (Perhaps I can't see it. After all, I have to rely on Google to find things.) He didn't need to. He gave all enought credit to know what *inorganic* and *organic* and *total*mercury meant. Feel free to tell us that "inorganic mercury" is "ethylmercury". We need a good laugh. Sadly..the the laugh is about your ignorance. http://www.checnet.org/healthehouse/...sp?Main_ID=472 Common Names: elemental mercury, quicksilver, colloidal mercury, metallic mercury Mercury is a toxic heavy metal that is found naturally in the environment. As the result of human activities, environmental levels have increased substantially over natural levels. Mercury is found in three forms: organic, inorganic and elemental (mercury). Mercury is a potent neurotoxin that can cause permanent damage to the brain and central nervous system, especially among young children. In pregnant women, mercury can pass through the placenta and can harm the fetus. http://www.scorecard.org/chemical-pr...e_id=EDF%2d173 ORGANIC MERCURY COMPOUNDS CAS Number: EDF-173 Note that ORGANIC MERCURY COMPOUNDS may include any of the following constituents: ALKYL MERCURY COMPOUNDS ARYL MERCURY COMPOUNDS BIS(ISOBUTYL) MERCURY CHLOROMETHOXYPROPYLMERCURIC ACETATE [CPMA] DI(PHENYLMERCURY)DODECENYLSUCCINATE [PMDS] DIETHYL MERCURY DIISOPROPYL MERCURY DIMETHYL MERCURY ETHYLMERCURIC PHOSPHATE HYDROXYMETHYL MERCURY MERCURIC ACETATE METHOXYETHYLMERCURIC ACETATE METHYL MERCURY METHYL MERCURY CHLORIDE METHYL MERCURY COMPOUNDS METHYLMERCURIC DICYANAMIDE PHENYL MERCURIC PROPIONATE PHENYLMERCURIC ACETATE PHENYLMERCURIC OLEATE [PMO] THIMEROSAL It makes it OUT of the brain faster than Methylmercury, but there is no data proving that a quicker exit relates to zero damage. A pediatric dose of hepatitis B vaccine contains 12.5 micrograms. The major toxicity of mercury is manifested in the central nervous system. Except that ethylmercury, in the doses used, has never been shown to be harmful the human brain. Just because something "has not been shown" does not mean it isn't so. It simply means the right study has not been performed. Can you please show us a broad study comparing 100% unvaccinated children with vaccinated children that compare the gambit of possible risk factors of thimerosal such as autism, ADD/ADHD, asthma and several neurodegenerative disorders? To my knowledge, such a study does not exist. That being the case, it's no wonder "it has never been shown." Yet, there still is no evidence that the amount of ethylmercury in vaccines is dangerous. There's plenty of evidence. It just so happens that, at this time, it's all anecdotal. As I said, the proper studies have not been done. Max. -- Peter Bowditch |
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Mercury in Vaccines
"Jan Drew" wrote:
"Peter Bowditch" wrote in message .. . "Max C." wrote: Jeff wrote: This assumption is a bad assumption. Methylmercury is actively taken into the brain; Ethylmercury is not. So the toxicity of ethylmercury is a lot less. Wow. That is absolutely wrong. Ethylmercury does, in fact, make its way into the brain. http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/art...?artid=1280369 "Brain concentrations of total mercury were approximately 3-4 times lower in the thimerosal group than in the methylmercury group, and total mercury cleared more rapidly in the thimerosal group (with a half-life of 24.2 days versus 59.5 days). However, the proportion of inorganic mercury in the brain was much higher in the thimerosal group (21-86% of total mercury) compared to the methylmercury group (6-10%). Brain concentrations of inorganic mercury were approximately twice as high in the thimerosal group compared to the methylmercury group. Inorganic mercury remains in the brain much longer than organic mercury, with an estimated half-life of more than a year. It's not currently known whether inorganic mercury presents any risk to the developing brain." And where does the word "ethylmercury" appear in the above? (Perhaps I can't see it. After all, I have to rely on Google to find things.) He didn't need to. He gave all enought credit to know what *inorganic* and *organic* and *total*mercury meant. He did need to. He started off talking about ethylmercury, which is a very specific chemical compound (despite what Saint Boyd might say). He then quoted something which made a distinction between methylmercury and "inorganic mercury". I know what "inorganic mercury" means, and it doesn't mean "ethylmercury" Feel free to tell us that "inorganic mercury" is "ethylmercury". We need a good laugh. Sadly..the the laugh is about your ignorance. http://www.checnet.org/healthehouse/...sp?Main_ID=472 Common Names: elemental mercury, quicksilver, colloidal mercury, metallic mercury All of which are common names for something which is not ethylmercury. Mercury is a toxic heavy metal that is found naturally in the environment. As the result of human activities, environmental levels have increased substantially over natural levels. Mercury is found in three forms: organic, inorganic and elemental (mercury). Mercury is a potent neurotoxin that can cause permanent damage to the brain and central nervous system, especially among young children. In pregnant women, mercury can pass through the placenta and can harm the fetus. http://www.scorecard.org/chemical-pr...e_id=EDF%2d173 Did you read the next bit you pasted? The bit where it lists ethylmercury under the heading "Organic Mercury Compounds". Doesn't this tell you that ethylmercury cannot be "inorganic mercury"? Do you understand what the prefix "ethyl-" means? ORGANIC MERCURY COMPOUNDS CAS Number: EDF-173 Note that ORGANIC MERCURY COMPOUNDS may include any of the following constituents: ALKYL MERCURY COMPOUNDS ARYL MERCURY COMPOUNDS BIS(ISOBUTYL) MERCURY CHLOROMETHOXYPROPYLMERCURIC ACETATE [CPMA] DI(PHENYLMERCURY)DODECENYLSUCCINATE [PMDS] DIETHYL MERCURY DIISOPROPYL MERCURY DIMETHYL MERCURY ETHYLMERCURIC PHOSPHATE HYDROXYMETHYL MERCURY MERCURIC ACETATE METHOXYETHYLMERCURIC ACETATE METHYL MERCURY METHYL MERCURY CHLORIDE METHYL MERCURY COMPOUNDS METHYLMERCURIC DICYANAMIDE PHENYL MERCURIC PROPIONATE PHENYLMERCURIC ACETATE PHENYLMERCURIC OLEATE [PMO] THIMEROSAL It makes it OUT of the brain faster than Methylmercury, but there is no data proving that a quicker exit relates to zero damage. A pediatric dose of hepatitis B vaccine contains 12.5 micrograms. The major toxicity of mercury is manifested in the central nervous system. Except that ethylmercury, in the doses used, has never been shown to be harmful the human brain. Just because something "has not been shown" does not mean it isn't so. It simply means the right study has not been performed. Can you please show us a broad study comparing 100% unvaccinated children with vaccinated children that compare the gambit of possible risk factors of thimerosal such as autism, ADD/ADHD, asthma and several neurodegenerative disorders? To my knowledge, such a study does not exist. That being the case, it's no wonder "it has never been shown." Yet, there still is no evidence that the amount of ethylmercury in vaccines is dangerous. There's plenty of evidence. It just so happens that, at this time, it's all anecdotal. As I said, the proper studies have not been done. Max. -- Peter Bowditch -- Peter Bowditch aa #2243 The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au Australian Skeptics http://www.skeptics.com.au To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com |
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Mercury in Vaccines
"Jeff" wrote in message nk.net... Except that ethylmercury, in the doses used, has never been shown to be harmful the human brain. Dr. George Lucier, toxicologist and former director of the Environmental Toxicology Program, National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences says, "Thimerosal contains organic mercury. Organic mercury is a known developmental neurotoxin and the fetus and infants are at special risk. Public health policies should not allow infants to be purposely injected with organic mercury." THE NATIONAL VACCINE ADVISORY COMMITTEE SPONSORED WORKSHOP ON THIMEROSAL VACCINES DAY ONE - VOLUME I AUGUST 11th, 1999 Dr. George Lucier National Institutes of Health ..A second study, which was not discussed this morning, is that adult male and female rats were administered five daily doses of equimolar concentrations of ethyl or methylmercury by gavage and tissue distribution, neurotoxicity, and nephrotoxicity assessed. This was a Magos study in 1985 in the Archives of Toxicology. And the key points of that paper we neurotoxicity of methyl and ethylmercury were similar, although higher levels of inorganic mercury were seen in the brains of ethylmercury-treated rats consistent with what we'd said about metabolism; and likewise, because of that, the renal damage was greater in the ethylmercury treated rats. ..I think it is important to note from the Magos study, in which he directly compared ethyl and methylmercury, that he found essentially the same results in both studies, with the exception that the renal toxicity was greater with ethyl, and I think that was because of the demethylation as a way of concentrating the mercuric chloride or inorganic mercury in the kidney. Thimerosal (50 percent mercury) is added to vaccines at a concentration of 1:10,000. This is equivalent to a concentration of 100,000 parts per billion (ppb). This puts the concentration of mercury in the vaccine vial at 50,000 ppb. To put this in perspective, liquid waste that exceeds 200 ppb of mercury must be disposed of in a special hazardous waste landfill. Drinking water cannot exceed 2 ppb mercury. "Small" would probably be the last word to use when describing the amount of mercury in vaccines. Michael Wagnitz, Madison, Wis. |
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Mercury in Vaccines
Ilena Rose wrote:
I've seen enormous amounts of Vaccination Disinformation posted on Usenet ... interestingly enough for the most part by those connected with the Quackwatch / Ratbags Posse headed by disgraced Peter Bowditch of Genesse. For sure ... disbarred Probert and such notable other anti-science flacks You have that backwards. I am totally pro-science. Dr. Mercola is anti-reality. will insult and defame Dr. Mercola ... such is their way. Mercury in Vaccines What vaccines? It has been removed! This is like complaining about Nixon being president. Snip of old news. |
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Mercury in Vaccines
Jan Drew wrote:
"Jeff" wrote in message nk.net... Ilena wrote in message ... I've seen enormous amounts of Vaccination Disinformation posted on Usenet ... interestingly enough for the most part by those connected with the Quackwatch / Ratbags Posse headed by disgraced Peter Bowditch of Genesse. For sure ... disbarred Probert and such notable other anti-science flacks will insult and defame Dr. Mercola ... such is their way. Personally I find very little of what Mercola says is accurate or based on science. Mercury in Vaccines Uproar over a little-known preservative, thimerosal, jostles U.S. hepatitis B vaccination policy In 1997, when Frank Pallone, a Democratic congressman from New Jersey, attached a simple amendment to an FDA reauthorization bill, he could not have predicted that it would cause such a commotion two years later. His amendment ran just 133 words. It gave FDA two years to "compile a list of drugs and foods that contain intentionally introduced mercury compounds and . [to] provide a quantitative and qualitative analysis of the mercury compounds in the list.." The bill later evolved into the landmark FDA Modernization Act of 1997 (FDAMA) and was signed into law on November 21, 1997. Pallone's amendment undoubtedly sprang from his long interest in environmental causes. But he had unwittingly set into motion a chain of events that would, two years later, bring turmoil to the immunization policy world and fears of harm to the nation's hepatitis B control effort. Facts about thimerosal and mercury Thimerosal is a water-soluble, cream-colored crystalline powder. It is 49.6% mercury by weight. In the human body, thimerosal is metabolized to ethylmercury and thiosalicylate. The literature on thimerosal metabolism and excretion is limited and old. Case reports have demonstrated toxicity after massive overdoses. Toxicological information on the chief metabolite of thimerosal, ethylmercury, is extremely limited. During the recent controversy over the safety of thimerosal in vaccines, toxicologists have assumed that the toxicity of ethylmercury is equivalent to the toxicity of methylmercury. The toxicity of methylmercury is complex and depends on the type, level, and duration of exposure. The primary environmental exposure is through consumption of predator fish. A 6-ounce can of tuna fish contains an average of 17 micrograms of mercury. This assumption is a bad assumption. Methylmercury is actively taken into the brain; Ethylmercury is not. So the toxicity of ethylmercury is a lot less. http://www.altcorp.com/DentalInformation/exposure.htm III. MECHANISMS, SOURCES & EPIDEMIOLOGY OF EXPOSURE Sallie Bernard*, Albert Enayati, B.S., Ch.E., M.S.M.E., Heidi Roger, Teresa Binstock, Lyn Redwood, R.N., M.S.N., C.R.N.P., Woody McGinnis, M.D. That is what Jeff said, very little science. |
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